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Robert Jones
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I take it that Mensa Connections is the UK version? Ack! Ptooey! gulp

Mensa, who wouldn't know a good game if it bit them on the butt, gets to lord their name over a great Knizia game? Oh the injustice!

I look forward to buying either the original German version or the Fantasy Flight version.
 
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Re:Mensa?!?
Ipecac (#86602),

and at 18 points you're supposed to call out "mensa" rather than "ingenious". I don't think so.
 
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Chad Urso McDaniel
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The Seattle Weekly featured this as a recommended Christmas Gift in 2004. Mensa USA wrote a letter in response to clarify that they "found it wanting." shake

http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0449/041208_news_lette...
 
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chadm (#471576),
After reading the article I'm glad I purchased the FFG version of the game. Anything that Mensa finds "wanting" is probably outstanding in its own right. The fact that they didn't want their name on the US version probably gives more credibility to the fact that this is a fun strategy game.
 
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I thought I had read somewhere that Knizia specifically designed Genial for Mensa. They asked him to design a game for them and this is what he came up with. I'll look around for the article. Maybe I'm imagining it.
 
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Here it is...

http://www.gamefest.com/news/feature_detail/1343_0_3_0_C/
 
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Paul Sauberer
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chadm wrote:
The Seattle Weekly featured this as a recommended Christmas Gift in 2004. Mensa USA wrote a letter in response to clarify that they "found it wanting." shake

http://www.seattleweekly.com/features/0449/041208_news_lette...


Given that word is it was named one of the Mensa Select games of 2005, I guess that they suddenly found it less "wanting."

Or maybe they didn't realize that it was the same game.
 
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Mensa does not have an opinion. On anything. It is part of the organization.

Mensans have a lot of opinions.

What was in the Seattle Times was one persons opinion.
 
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As already stated, this game was commissioned by Mensa.

There are legal issues over the licensing rights to the Mensa name and branding in the US, which was a pivotal factor in naming it just 'Ingenious'. The UK version specifically states "Strictly not for sale in the US" for this same reason.
 
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AllenDoum wrote:
Mensa does not have an opinion. On anything. It is part of the organization.

Mensans have a lot of opinions.

What was in the Seattle Times was one persons opinion.


The letter is signed:

Jim Blackmore
National Marketing Director,
American Mensa, Ltd.

I would say that it represents as close to an "official" position as one could get.

The statement:

Quote:
We tested it last year at our games competition and found it wanting. We did not want the Mensa name on the game in this country.


also leaves little to the imagination . In a previous sentence he does endorse Apples to Apples and Scategories (sic).

Ah well, their loss...

I am confused however by the timeline. The game appeared in Germany as "Einfach Genial" before the branded version came out. I have to admit that I am a bit of an abstract game snob and was prepared not to give it the time of day due to the luck element, but having bought it for my daughter's birthday I was pleasantly surprised and rather like the game especially four players in two player teams!



 
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Re: Mensa?!?
Perhaps Seattle Weekly changed their site a bit, because the letter is actually on the next page.

I think the bit with Mensa was something political like this: British Mensa licensed their name for this game. American Mensa was upset that someone was using their name. American Mensa insisted that a game can't just buy it's way into the Mensa name. A game can only get the name "Mensa" on the box by winning at Mind Games. When Jim Blackmore, National Marketing Director, American Mensa, Ltd. wrote that letter, who knew that his organization had considered licensing the name the way Brit Mensa did, and resoundingly defeated that proposal. This was what he meant by "found it wanting". Four months latter the game went through the Mind Games process and won. Still, American Mensa has not permitted the use of "Mensa" in the name of the game.
 
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