$10.00
Recommend
61 
 Thumb up
 Hide
23 Posts

BoardGameGeek» Forums » Gaming Related » Podcasts & Blogs

Subject: BGWS 060 - Battlestar Galactica: The Reality Show rss

Your Tags: Add tags
Popular Tags: [View All]
Scott Nicholson
Canada
Brantford
Ontario
flag msg tools
designer
mbmbmbmbmb
BoardGameGeek » Forums » Gaming Related » Podcasts & Blogs
BGWS 060 - Battlestar Galactica: The Reality Show
It's Reality TV meets Board Games!

On this special episode of Board Games with Scott, I take a look at Battlestar Galactica as though it was a Reality show. Find out what the players are thinking in the Confessional. My focus is on the social component of the game and not the mechanics.

You can watch this episode at http://www.boardgameswithscott.com/?p=265
or watch it right here:


Note: This was a ton of work, so don't expect this on a regular basis! The quality is also lower because I couldn't control the environment nearly as well as I normally can.

40 
 Thumb up
2.11
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Chuck Easterlin
United States
Saint Peters
Missouri
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb

WooHoo! Thanks Scott!

 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
David Henry
United States
Anaheim
California
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
Alright! I was hoping you would do this one! I'll finally have a video I can show new players to hopefully give them the basics.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Jim Cote
United States
Maine
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
Very entertaining!
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Jesse Hickle
United States
Crown Point
Indiana
flag msg tools
This space for rent.
mbmbmbmbmb
Scott, I can tell you worked really hard on this one. That was a great show, very creative. Well done!
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Nicolás Mutis-Mesa
Australia
Melbourne
VIC
flag msg tools
I've been waiting to see more taped game sessions; hope future episodes have this as well.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Scott Nicholson
Canada
Brantford
Ontario
flag msg tools
designer
mbmbmbmbmb
zukeft wrote:
I've been waiting to see more taped game sessions; hope future episodes have this as well.


Given that:
1 - I had to coordinate 7 people's schedules together to get a 5-hour block of time

2 - I had to try and coordinate 3 cameras in different rooms, each with different audio inputs and levels

3 - I had to pick through about 12 hours of footage from these different cameras and try to balance them to make them look somewhat similar.

4 - Then I had to match them on their timing, along with one 5-hour recording from a microphone. This is when I learned that the tape camera runs ever-so-slightly slower than the digital camera, so they had to be manually resynced every so often.

So.....don't expect it.

See this picture?



It's the timeline for the episode. Every block you see had to be placed, trimmed, and balanced. That takes an insane amount of time.


19 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Dan C
United States
Michigan
flag msg tools
mbmbmb
I had my doubts about this game because I'm very suspicious of tv or movie tie ins. Although I loved the show, I was afraid this was just a quick cash in by the producers. Some of the written reviews allayed my fears, but it helped to see the game played out. Thanks for all the hard work, Scott. This review may have won me over.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Nicolás Mutis-Mesa
Australia
Melbourne
VIC
flag msg tools
snicholson wrote:

Given that:
1 - I had to coordinate 7 people's schedules together to get a 5-hour block of time

2 - I had to try and coordinate 3 cameras in different rooms, each with different audio inputs and levels

3 - I had to pick through about 12 hours of footage from these different cameras and try to balance them to make them look somewhat similar.

4 - Then I had to match them on their timing, along with one 5-hour recording from a microphone. This is when I learned that the tape camera runs ever-so-slightly slower than the digital camera, so they had to be manually resynced every so often.

So.....don't expect it.

See this picture?



It's the timeline for the episode. Every block you see had to be placed, trimmed, and balanced. That takes an insane amount of time.

Makes complete sense. It sounds like a huge ordeal; doesn't anybody (or hasn't anybody offered) help you out?
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Scott Nicholson
Canada
Brantford
Ontario
flag msg tools
designer
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Makes complete sense. It sounds like a huge ordeal; doesn't anybody (or hasn't anybody offered) help you out?


I did have help - I had all of the players, and Logan behind the scenes. I also had a bunch of people watch it and give comments as to what was problematic.

The timesink isn't in the creation and the filming.

It's in the editing, and as anyone who had editing video can tell you, it is long and tedious. I probably dumped 40 hours of editing time on this episode. But I am really impressed with the game, so it was out of passion for the game.

So, I've had help on creation and help on reviewing, and I don't want to belittle that. It's the editing side that's the monster.
8 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
David Hong
United States
San Diego
CA
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
me liked it. laugh
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Nicolás Mutis-Mesa
Australia
Melbourne
VIC
flag msg tools
snicholson wrote:
I also had a bunch of people watch it and give comments as to what was problematic.

How did that approach change the overall flow/focus of this particular episode? Will you be doing "beta" testing in the future once again?
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Steven Palmer
United States
Milan
Ohio
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
I loved the format. By showing actual gameplay, I got a much better impression of the game experience. I'd really like to see this format more often. Well done!
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
andrew larcher
United States
kissimmee
Florida
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
Scott, that was very creative what you did, i don't believe i have seen it done before in board game reviews. Personally i have found it to be extremely helpful in deciding if i want to buy a game by watching my fellow group members play the game and examining the experience, flow of play, and the attitude of the players. Normal video reviews cannot really capture that as well as what you just did.

Its quite obvious that this type of format is time consuming and i don't expect to see it again( ) and i don't blame you...

however, in future episodes, it might be less work if a group and yourself briefly describe the rules to the audience WHILE YOU PLAY in front of the camera. You need not to explain all of the rules just like before and this meathod can capture the same elements of your previous episode.

Obviously you would skip around (due to length) how you like to point out key plays or event in the game....after the game is over, each player can describe their view on the game. Wrapping it up with your thoughts.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
marauder / media
Germany
Unspecified
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
snicholson wrote:
The quality is also lower because I couldn't control the environment nearly as well as I normally can.

Thats why it's called "reality TV"
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Scott Nicholson
Canada
Brantford
Ontario
flag msg tools
designer
mbmbmbmbmb
zukeft wrote:
snicholson wrote:
I also had a bunch of people watch it and give comments as to what was problematic.

How did that approach change the overall flow/focus of this particular episode? Will you be doing "beta" testing in the future once again?


Actually, I used to do that for every episode. (you'll see BGWS Beta testers in the credits for those episodes). When I streamlined my processes and shortened the episodes about 5 episodes ago, I dropped that as part of the process, as it added a lot of time (about 4-5 days) between filming and being done with it.

For this one, I put out a special call for folks with no BSG experience (show or game) to get feedback, and they offered questions on things that weren't clear.
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Jason Lott
United States
Cheverly
Maryland
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
Scott, this video is indeed a labor of love. It was truly awesome, and something I would point anyone to who is considering the game. THANK YOU!!!
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Ken H.
United States
Amherst
Ohio
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb

That was an outstanding show. Great job!

 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
PH
United States
Elgin
Iowa
flag msg tools
designer
mbmbmbmbmb
I really enjoyed this episode Scott. Adding the reality/story element to showing how the game is played made it entertaining in a different way than your regular shows. I like your regular episodes a lot, but I would certainly enjoy seeing this style done again. As you said, it is very time consuming, so I won't expect to see it often. Keep up the good work, and a thank you to the players!

PH
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Chris Johnson
Canada
Guelph
Ontario
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
Finally had a chance to watch the whole episode - great job Scott. Excellent concept for this type of game.
Hats off to you on the editing and putting it all together. Just looking at the one screen shot makes me queasy.

 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Jason Quintal
United States
Burlington
Massachusetts
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb

Absolutely wonderful episode, Scott. I was impressed watching the game the second time through to try to pick up any hints from the player *that was a cylon* to see if there were any noticeable "tells" from that player.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Neil Erickson
United States
Massillon
Ohio
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
Absolutely fantastic.
I had never even heard of you before about 2 hours ago when I stumbled across your Smallworld video. (I watched this video to make sure my friends and I were playing the game properly... we did play it correctly and we really don't like it.)

I watched your BSG video and decided that I must get this game.
I never thought I'd enjoy a co-op board game, or a movie/tv tie in game, but this video makes this game look insanely fun!
I can't wait to get this game and play it.

I also can't wait to watch the rest of your videos!
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Fitzgerald Gonzalez
United States
Los Angeles
California
flag msg tools
mbmbmbmbmb
Does that mean you want to sell your Smallworld game?

BTW, Scott, the reason I bought the game was because of you...Thank you.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Hide
  • [+] Dice rolls
Front Page | Welcome | Contact | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertise | Support BGG | Feeds RSS
Geekdo, BoardGameGeek, the Geekdo logo, and the BoardGameGeek logo are trademarks of BoardGameGeek, LLC.