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Rodrigo Trocado
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I've browsed through the files section here but didn't find the base rules for the game. Does anyone know where I can find them?

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Mik Svellov
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They come with every box of the game you buy.

Winsome Games have a wellknown policy of not publishing their rules on the net!
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You can have a good and brief overview in Portuguese in the following file

http://files.boardgamegeek.com/geekfile_view.php?fileid=2449...

Have fun!
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Thanks Duarte. I guess I'll see you at LeiriaCon!
 
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Great Dane wrote:
Winsome Games have a wellknown policy of not publishing their rules on the net!


And I have a well-known policy of never buying a game unless I can read the rules first. Their loss.
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The Lone Gamer wrote:
Great Dane wrote:
Winsome Games have a wellknown policy of not publishing their rules on the net!


And I have a well-known policy of never buying a game unless I can read the rules first. Their loss.


No, your loss. Definitely your loss.

I don't mean that your policy is wrong; I just mean that you are really missing out.
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The Lone Gamer wrote:
Great Dane wrote:
Winsome Games have a wellknown policy of not publishing their rules on the net!


And I have a well-known policy of never buying a game unless I can read the rules first. Their loss.


Perhaps. I can envision a scenario where you play the game with someone who is perhaps less punctilious about "never buying a game unless [he] can read the rules first," at which point you could have a chance to read the rules and then go out and buy the game.

Of course, I can also envision a scenario where you never play the game. In which case, I'd say it's your loss, not so much theirs.
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Gilby wrote:
No, your loss. Definitely your loss.

I don't mean that your policy is wrong; I just mean that you are really missing out.



Golux13 wrote:
Of course, I can also envision a scenario where you never play the game. In which case, I'd say it's your loss, not so much theirs.


I have plenty of great games in my collection, and plenty more I want to get from companies that do make the rules available. I'll be fine.

I even trade for some games without reading the rules. But if I'm spending $40 or $60 or $80, I need more than just their assurance that it's the greatest game ever.
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The Lone Gamer wrote:
I have plenty of great games in my collection, and plenty more I want to get from companies that do make the rules available. I'll be fine.

I even trade for some games without reading the rules. But if I'm spending $40 or $60 or $80, I need more than just their assurance that it's the greatest game ever.


Well, then I guess it's really nobody's loss. I doubt that missing your few bucks is going to break the company, and it sounds like you're not going to miss playing it.

Still... there must be something about it that interests you, or you wouldn't be looking for the rules. So my recommendation is to seek out my first scenario: find someone who owns the game and learn it from them. Read their copy of the rules. And then make your decision. Sounds like a win-win (even if you lose).
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Golux13 wrote:
Well, then I guess it's really nobody's loss.

Glad that's settled.
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The Lone Gamer wrote:
Great Dane wrote:
Winsome Games have a wellknown policy of not publishing their rules on the net!


And I have a well-known policy of never buying a game unless I can read the rules first. Their loss.


And I have a well-known policy of finding statements like this amusing.

There are a lot of interesting games you're going to miss with your policy but it isn't going to hurt anyone but you.

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Gilby wrote:
The Lone Gamer wrote:
Great Dane wrote:
Winsome Games have a wellknown policy of not publishing their rules on the net!


And I have a well-known policy of never buying a game unless I can read the rules first. Their loss.


No, your loss. Definitely your loss.

I don't mean that your policy is wrong; I just mean that you are really missing out.

STRONG second on that. I actually cry myself to sleep for those folks that may never experience this incredible game for silly reasons.
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Some game companies that see games that they publish evolve will provide "living rules" online. It's their choice. Winsome never does - and that's their choice. I don't think the rules to AoS have changed all that much and, if they have, I expect finding a description of the differences is not all that great a challenge...
 
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Age of Steam » Forums » Rules
Re: Where can I find the rules?
Bubslug wrote:
I don't think the rules to AoS have changed all that much


They have not changed, but I added the ability to directly place complex tiles under certain circumstances in 2004.

May 2002 Winsome printing: No errors.

October 2002 Warfrog printing: Martin made all the Blue cities red and the red cities blue, so all the Move Goods examples were screwed. There were many misprints, in the rules, the map and the Income display. For complete info, see:
http://www.boardgamegeek.com/article/72023#72023

2004 Warfrog printing: No errors, added the ability to directly place complex tiles.

2009 Eagle printing: The sentence "The last two players participating in the bidding both pay the full amounts they have bid." was missing. It should be between the two sentences: "The first player to drop out of the bidding takes the last player space on the Player Order Track and pays nothing, even if they had bid some amount" then the missing sentence, then the sentence "Any other players pay half the amount they had bid, rounding up."
Aside from that, no errors, no changes.

2010 Eagle printing: No errors, no changes.

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John Bohrer wrote:
October 2002 Warfrog printing: Martin made all the Blue cities red and the red cities blue, so all the Move Goods examples were screwed.


Couldn't resist that, could you?

John Bohrer wrote:
2009 Eagle printing: The sentence "The last two players participating in the bidding both pay the full amounts they have bid." was missing. It should be between the two sentences: "The first player to drop out of the bidding takes the last player space on the Player Order Track and pays nothing, even if they had bid some amount" then the missing sentence, then the sentence "Any other players pay half the amount they had bid, rounding up."
Aside from that, no errors, no changes.

2010 Eagle printing: No errors, no changes.


I beg to differ.

You f**ed up the 2009 rule book royally, and instead of seeing to it that your costumers get a PDF later on which at least respects their right to a working rule book, you don't even spend time to fix the mess upon a reprint.

Instead continuing to spend your time bitching online about Martin this Martin that. Grow a pair, get to work. I paid for your crappy rulebook and expect better. If you can't do that, why not hand over the task to someone who can? May I suggest having a look at this?

Two (categories of) things worth pointing out:

1. Commendable use of format, layout, font, illustration etc.

2. That thing is called a "file" which people can "print off".
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(1) Dayam.

(2) While I sort of understand Winsome's stance, in that so many of their games are produced to a level where, if you had the rules, you could pretty much make everything else at home, with Age of Steam, I just think not putting the rules out as a downloadable PDF is stupid and self-defeating.

We're living in the future now and people expect to find things like rule books online. Hell, I've got the rules to almost 200 games in PDF format on my iPad. When we go away for the holidays, I'm going to make a nice package of game components and boards but I'm not bringing any printed rules along for the ride.

Then again, I much prefer Steam (which I'll be bringing) to Age of Steam (which will be staying home) and, honestly, I'm fine with anything that pushes people away from AoS and towards Steam, so really, Winsome's policy works great from my point of view.
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ohbalto wrote:
We're living in the future now and people expect to find things like rule books online.
Actually, we're living in the present.
In the future, people will find rule books online, which they can make a single copy of - for a price!
 
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