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To me they are video games and should be in the video game section.



To me, they are just board games using a different medium. Electronic cards and dice vs paper cards and plastic dice.



Exactly
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But I see no harm in haivng the ipad be listed as a version (which Aldie says is going to happen) and have a Electronic section of the forum for discussions that relate to electronic implementations of that board game.

I think you may have misinterpreted a bit. The apps would be listed as linked items on the board game page, and vice versa. So, in addition to the current "expansion/expanded by" linkage, there would also be "digital/physical" linkage. So, it would not use the versions system, but rather the linkages system since it is linking two separate listings in the collective database.
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T Worthington wrote:
But I see no harm in haivng the ipad be listed as a version (which Aldie says is going to happen) and have a Electronic section of the forum for discussions that relate to electronic implementations of that board game.

I think you may have misinterpreted a bit. The apps would be listed as linked items on the board game page, and vice versa. So, in addition to the current "expansion/expanded by" linkage, there would also be "digital/physical" linkage. So, it would not use the versions system, but rather the linkages system since it is linking two separate listings in the collective database.


I understand correctly. I don't think that makes much sense though, at best it is half of a solution.

BGG/VGG are fundamently user content driven sites. Why split the user conversations across two sites for the same game? Simply because some people can't come to terms that you can call a game on an iPad a board game?

Facebook doesn't require me to go to a different site to talk to people that like cars, and a different site to talk about boats. Yet that is exactly what the "geekdo" architecture is designed to do - it is a fundamentally flawed approach in that it does little to leverage the exisitng BGG content and user base.

I understand your stance, see that you aren't going to change and so will leave it that.
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Bagherra wrote:
Guantanamo wrote:
To me they are video games and should be in the video game section.



To me, they are just board games using a different medium. Electronic cards and dice vs paper cards and plastic dice.



Exactly


So how about versions of Monopoly that add minor video game only elements?

Or video games that are thematic boardgames, like Mario Party?

How about BattleChess, or other games that contain board games within them, plus extras?

Should we list ever single digital version of Solitaire differently?
 
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They are most definitely video games, and when a person logs a play of a game with either multiple plays in one day or very, very short play length, a pop-up question should appear asking if they actually played the game in electronic form--and then place the play log under the appropriate (VGG) entry.
 
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All this would also bring up the question:
Should all of the Yucata implementations of boardgames be listed on VGG?
Board Game Arena?
What about a single game that two different online boardgame sites implement (and so the implementation is slightly different)? Two different VGG entries, or one VGG entry with 2 versions?
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Randy Cox wrote:
They are most definitely video games, and when a person logs a play of a game with either multiple plays in one day or very, very short play length, a pop-up question should appear asking if they actually played the game in electronic form--and then place the play log under the appropriate (VGG) entry.


I'd would like to understand, are you then saying than you don't consider them boardgames at all ?

If they are both, what are they first ? Or predominately ?
 
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That's what one geekmod is telling me. I guess I always thought of these such games more as boardgames than video games really, and that's what I've noticed people have been doing the past few years.


Totally agree. These are nothing more than digitized Board Games yet they're (foolishly, imho) being shunted into VGG, which just clutters and muddies the DB over there.

Not the greatest decision but I think that's how it's being handled for now, sadly.
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I'm not sure why, but for me it's not as simple as this... because if I'm logged into BGG, if I just click on to VGG or RPG, I have to re-log-in all over again. Yeah it's just another username and password, but, I'm lazy

If it could remember the same log-in between geekdo worlds it really would be just a difference of a click and a link.


If you use the Login button at the middle top of the page it will launch the beta login feature that logs you into all three domains. Works for me.
 
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teg2 wrote:
Randy Cox wrote:
They are most definitely video games, and when a person logs a play of a game with either multiple plays in one day or very, very short play length, a pop-up question should appear asking if they actually played the game in electronic form--and then place the play log under the appropriate (VGG) entry.


I'd would like to understand, are you then saying than you don't consider them boardgames at all ?
Electronic implementations of boardgames are not boardgames. That is correct.
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They are not both. The boardgame is a boardgame and the video version is a video game. Ne'er the twain shall meet. :)
 
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Randy Cox wrote:
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Randy Cox wrote:
They are most definitely video games, and when a person logs a play of a game with either multiple plays in one day or very, very short play length, a pop-up question should appear asking if they actually played the game in electronic form--and then place the play log under the appropriate (VGG) entry.


I'd would like to understand, are you then saying than you don't consider them boardgames at all ?
Electronic implementations of boardgames are not boardgames. That is correct.
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If they are both, what are they first ? Or predominately ?
They are not both. The boardgame is a boardgame and the video version is a video game. Ne'er the twain shall meet.


Thanks, this explains your point of view.
 
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Re: New policy? Do video game implementations of boardgames go to VGG now?
Randy Cox wrote:
teg2 wrote:
Randy Cox wrote:
They are most definitely video games, and when a person logs a play of a game with either multiple plays in one day or very, very short play length, a pop-up question should appear asking if they actually played the game in electronic form--and then place the play log under the appropriate (VGG) entry.


I'd would like to understand, are you then saying than you don't consider them boardgames at all ?
Electronic implementations of boardgames are not boardgames. That is correct.
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If they are both, what are they first ? Or predominately ?
They are not both. The boardgame is a boardgame and the video version is a video game. Ne'er the twain shall meet.


Except when they do. Although BGG does it this way and I don't quite agree with it, I could see it that way.

I just need to be clear is all that when my console group asks if I play video games, the likes of Ascension and Carcassonne are not the same thing as New Super Mario Brothers Wii, Mortal Kombat. Only for those who care about such distinctions is all.
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