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That's authoritarian behaviour with the pretense of democracy, so I looked for an example of that kind of behaviour
Wow. A site about gaming wants people to post non-gaming content in a subforum and it's totalitarian?

May I suggest a dictionary with a healthy side helping of perspective?


You are taking a lot of ill-mannered crap you don't deserve, sir, and for that you have my sympathy... but if you think the above accurately sums up the situation, I think you might need a little of that perspective stuff, too.

The fact remains that BGG has been antipathetic to overtly hostile to wargamers (and, some extent, ATers) for a long, long time, up to and including personal directed abuse via private channels by Admins, directed at wargamers, for the crime of being wargamers. The site owners have been trying to problematize the active BGG wargaming community for a long time, looking for ways to make activity, discussion, and vibrance a problem. They failed every time they tried, of course, and so this time they just made a few excuses - demonstrably false, as smarter people than I have shown on this thread - and made a move, the stated goal of which is to keep the community in check.

Ninety-five percent of the threads in the old Wargames forum were on topic, either about games, about gaming, or about the inevitable historical and political context which makes our gaming particularly wonderful. There were some in jokes, but you know, that's the funny thing about communities - they grow, they have their jokes, their memes. It doesn't matter. For every person that's 'scared away' by such things, more are drawn in by the comradery, the knowledge. There was no problem with content. The only extant problem was that the wargaming community on BGG was too vital, boisterous, and visible, and in the mind of a few individuals it was threatening BGG's brand.

I don't think there's much to be done at this point. Some people have already left, looking to build a similar community elsewhere. Others will stay and see if things improve, somehow, and a lot of people will do both. I just hope the users of BGG pay attention to what's happening. It really speaks to the priorities of the site and its owners.

Then again, there's not much chance of people seeing this on the front page, is there?
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the inevitable historical and political context which makes our gaming particularly wonderful.


Very well put....

Our games are based on a topic of deep significance, not fantasy.

The 'other' games lack any related depth of discussion - which helps explain why we have more to say.

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We could be all 'Occupy this' and STOP posting in the sub forums and keep it all in General.

"Post them all; let the admins sort them out...."


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the inevitable historical and political context which makes our gaming particularly wonderful.


Very well put....

Our games are based on a topic of deep significance, not fantasy.

The 'other' games lack any related depth of discussion - which helps explain why we have more to say.

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We could be all 'Occupy this' and STOP posting in the sub forums and keep it all in General.

"Post them all; let the admins sort them out...."



Thats what I do. Its a pity for poor old Leroy. But I'm going to post on the rare occasion im here in general. I dont give a crap about the 'suggested place to stick it.
Meanwhile CSW Social(not Forums.. Social) has a ton of threads, many are working hard with owners to make it BETTER for WAR GAMERS... Hmm what a difference.
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Re: Wargame Forum on Front Page (General? AWOL? Historical Context?)
desertfox2004 wrote:
I thought this split was done to encourage apparent wargaming lurkers who claimed to have been intimidated by the 'suffocating nature' of insider jokes posted by the old guard to come out of their closets and begin to contribute to the forum. I do recall quite vividly some people who had apparently been amongst these supposed lurkers posting some crowing threads and responses with their fervent support of the busting up of the old forum, almost taunting the old regime. Now, however, it seems as though those people have shrunk back into the shadows.


lol so true.



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