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What is the best multiplayer (3+) war-game that is currently available and why?

The last war game I tried was Risk when I was 16 and I think that it's time I give it another go. I would prefer a game with minimal luck and that plays in
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I'm a fan of Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game only luck I see are the hidden resources and army unit cards which you can off set with your techs ...definitely would be a good idea to get the expansion as well...Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game – Fame and Fortune.. As to reasons why .. multiple ways to victory ... tech tree development .. once you have a few good players the endgame is fantastic .. and it's also fun midgame as you decide upon all the variable ways to make it work
 
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Vinci or its fantasy cousin Small World have been referred to as "diceless Risk". Many don't consider these wargames, even though the theme is about conquest.
 
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I am asking because I have a friend who likes risk and I am trying to get him to break into the gaming hobby with a similar game and at the same time try war gaming out for myself (without having to suffer through risk or axis and allies).

Either Small World or Civilization could appeal to him but they don't seem like perfect fits since they are often categorized as more of Euro's...
 
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Here I Stand: 6p, heavy and long
Maria: 2-3p, light
Friedrich: 3-4p, light
Successors III: 3-4p, medium

Note that "light" in wargame terms is equal to "heavy" in eurogame terms.
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I'm surprised no one mentioned Axis & Allies.

Anyway, my most favorite multi-player wargames are:

Titan
Ikusa
Wizard's Quest
 
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Might be a good choice...
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I'd vote for Empires in Arms. But you and your friends have to take one week off meeple
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What era of history are you interested in? I can name a lot of good multiplayer wargames, including Wellington, Napoleonic Wars, Here I Stand, Conquest of Paradise, Revolution, Space Empires...
 
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Redward wrote:
I am asking because I have a friend who likes risk and I am trying to get him to break into the gaming hobby with a similar game and at the same time try war gaming out for myself (without having to suffer through risk or axis and allies).


Nexus Ops (Soon to be re-released by Fantasy Flight Games.)
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Here are my recommendations:

A Game of Thrones

I haven't played the second edition yet but it resolves some issues the first one had.

It's not real a wargame. But it's about territory conquest. negotioation, backstabbing, ...

Even though it's rated a 3.4 I wouldnt consider it heavy.

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Also +1 for Ikusa

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And you could try Runewars

Not a real wargame similar to A Game of Thrones but conquest, terriroty control and so on. The modular bord makes it different every game. This one I would consider heavy compared A Game of Thrones but there are awesome videos on youtube explaining how to play. (in german; I'm sure there are some in english as well)
 
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chuckdunn wrote:
I'm a fan of Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game only luck I see are the hidden resources and army unit cards which you can off set with your techs ...definitely would be a good idea to get the expansion as well...Sid Meier's Civilization: The Board Game – Fame and Fortune.. As to reasons why .. multiple ways to victory ... tech tree development .. once you have a few good players the endgame is fantastic .. and it's also fun midgame as you decide upon all the variable ways to make it work
Isn't the problem with Civilization as a board game that much war won't be going on?

Isn't it "defeat one city = win"?

Maybe fighting outside cities is enough? Seem very short though.
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mi_de wrote:
What era of history are you interested in? I can name a lot of good multiplayer wargames, including Wellington, Napoleonic Wars, Here I Stand, Conquest of Paradise, Revolution, Space Empires...


20th to 21st century would be best but not a big deal if it's not...
 
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Redward wrote:
I am asking because I have a friend who likes risk and I am trying to get him to break into the gaming hobby with a similar game and at the same time try war gaming out for myself (without having to suffer through risk or axis and allies).

Either Small World or Civilization could appeal to him but they don't seem like perfect fits since they are often categorized as more of Euro's...


You're going to see a lot of that I think. Everyone has a different definition of what a "wargame" is, and since you're specifically asking about something that's a risk-substitute that's putting you at the light end of the spectrum where many of the games that fit your description are considered "not wargames" and closer to a euro by many people.

How long of a game are you looking for? Is something 3-4 hours OK, or does it need to be more like 2?
 
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i favour Tide of Iron myself. does 2-4 really (best with 2 OR 4).
 
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Given he likes risk then maybe some area control games may be of interest.

You could try Martin wallaces Struggle of Empires it is very good and feels quite war like. It is a long game though (4 to 5 hours) and best with 5+. I can see a Risk fan looking for a bigger challenge enjoying this.
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I would give another vote for Nexus Ops. It's a real good transition from Risk to the meatier games in our hobby and the rules shouldn't scare him off.
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Wallenstein
Joan of Arc
Ancient Empires 1 or 2

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Redward wrote:
I am asking because I have a friend who likes risk and I am trying to get him to break into the gaming hobby with a similar game and at the same time try war gaming out for myself (without having to suffer through risk or axis and allies).

Either Small World or Civilization could appeal to him but they don't seem like perfect fits since they are often categorized as more of Euro's...


Hmm...I wouldn't worry too much about the euro
categorization, given that you're calling Risk a wargame.

A&A probably (barely) qualifies.

One big factor to 'get' is why your friend likes Risk.
My guess would be the heavy die rolling aspect,
which would direct me more towards ameritrash style
games (though there may be overlap). In particular,
given your euro tastes, I'd recommend things like

Twilight Imperium (Third Edition)
Warrior Knights
Age of Mythology: The Boardgame

as being more likely to appeal to both the die-rolling,
high excitement of a Risk lover, and your own tastes.

Something like Small World or Wallenstein might be good too,
if your friend's more interested in the strategy
of Risk. Certainly has less die rolling (though rolling
lots of dice doesn't imply luck - there are tile selections
which are far more impactful than a single roll in Risk - Risk's
cards are a different story though).

Games like Britannia and History of the World
(along with Conquest of Paradise - which is still available),
can give a pretty good compromise as well.

Some of the lighter multi-player CDG almost wargames suggested
are good choices too (Napoleonic Wars, Here I Stand, Sword of
Rome) although they may be a bit longer than you desire (I see
a time limit - not quite spelled out). Probably on about the
same time commitment as Civ though (8 hours or so).
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Nexus Ops is a no brainer if you wish to introduce anyone who like risk into the hobby. it's fun, fast and in many ways similar to risk from a non gamer perspective.

all the other games listed here are very different from risk as viewed by the general public. while i must agree they are good games on their own, I think they are not good games for introductory purposes.

with the new FFG release, you cant go wrong with Nexus Ops ! once you have him hooked, try the other games listed here!
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Re: best multiplayer war game
ekted wrote:
Here I Stand: 6p, heavy and long
Maria: 2-3p, light
Friedrich: 3-4p, light
Successors III: 3-4p, medium

Note that "light" in wargame terms is equal to "heavy" in eurogame terms.


What he said.

Just be aware of the level of rules complexity you're getting in to. If you're used to Dominion, you'll see that 10 pages of rules is in fact 10 pages of rules. I assure you, it plays pretty easily, though the Austrian player needs to be careful not to overcommit, and from my play of it, the players facing austria need to let up on austria to help it take on the other side at times - makes for an interesting, if delicate dynamic!:
http://files.boardgamegeek.com/file/download/4knawobxv5/Mari...?

Here I Stand is a neat game, or so I hear. But again, read the rules to see what you're getting in to:

http://files.boardgamegeek.com/file/download/1wcjc75j7v/HISR...?

41 pages of rules.


If you're not looking for a wargame, or in the case of Maria, a relatively simple weuro, you might want to look at Risk Legacy instead. If you're looking for a deeper, more dramatic experience that you can play with different groups of people, you might want to look at Rise of Empires which is pretty simple and can be taught and played with 3 in 3 hours or so. That game probably covers the notion of "Dudes on a map and some more", and "abstract combat" with a dash of civilization pretty well. Rise of Empires fits pretty solidly in the euro-with-conflict camp. You might also look at Shogun or Wallenstein (first edition) in that area too.

Barebone Rules to Rise of Empires:
http://files.boardgamegeek.com/file/download/5r183ful6k/Rise...?


If you want a medium wargame, you could look at Combat Commander: Europe, which GMT has at a 5/9 in complexity.

http://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/26765/cc_rulebook_v1-1-pdf

For a very light, abstract wargame, try Manoeuvre? Might be a good idea if you want a short (1 hour), relatively abstract game (IE not tons of rules), but it offers a pretty good amount of flavor for something so small. It might be your best bet. Medium luck in combat, but the game isn't about blowing apart your enemy. Decent flavor for an abstract game too given that it has 8 armies that work very differently from each other.

Did I mention Risk Legacy?


Small World is very simple game to the point of stupidity. Don't bother.

A somewhat different idea here: how about Imperial or Imperial 2030? Simple, deterministic combat. You also buy the control of countries out from under other people. It's an interesting dynamic to say the least! It's like Diplomacy plus Chicago Express!



 
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