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Hi!

My name is Roberto and I’m an avid Avalon Hill and Victory Games collector.

The scope of this thread is to gather all AH and VG collectors on BGG in order to share informations about games, editions, versions, expansions, magazines, prices etc. in order to complete our collections. I know that is a very hard mission, but you never know....

I hope that it could be a sort of “forum in the forum”, and to find some new friends that, like me, still loves the games made by the best publisher in the history of boardgames.

Please feel free to add comments, suggestions, corrections, images of your AH collection!

First of all, please drop me a GeekMail with your e-mail address if you want to receive the most complete list of games made by Avalon Hill and Victory (before that Avalon Hill was acquired by Hasbro). It’s a sort of “cut and copy” that I’ve done from various resources found on the Internet, but I hope that it could help you to check your collection.

Of course, probably it will be edited a lot of times after your contributions (I hope so).

Thanks in advance.
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Re: A Call to Arms for Avalon Hill and Victory Games collectors
Hi Roberto,

You might get a better response if you also post this in the wargames subforum.
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You could just post the list in the forum and edit it LIVE as you go.
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Hi, the problem is that the list is Word format. I tried to copy it in a post or a thread, but in that way I lose all formatting and the list becomes unreadable and unuseful.
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Viki3m wrote:
Hi, the problem is that the list is Word format. I tried to copy it in a post or a thread, but in that way I lose all formatting and the list becomes unreadable and unuseful.


Have you tried Google Docs? Then you could just post a link & edit as you get new info.
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Yep, that is the way to go - Google docs.
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Hi to everybody, and thanks for suggestions.

I have uploaded the file in PDF format in Google Docs. Here is the link:

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B7lCBVKyG0vINWUzZWE2ODQtMzU...

I hope that it works...
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Wouldn't this be better served as a Guild?
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Checking the list:

1. What's the distinguishing features between various editions of games? New collectors won't know what to look for to determine the differences. Even if it's just different boxes (like the various sports games), it would be immensely helpful.

2. I use AH's product numbers to help with my collection. Do you have this, or do you need assistance with any?

3. You should also cross-reference games which came from one another (Adel Verplichtet/By Hook or By Crook, The Collector/Auction, Management/Business Strategy, as examples.

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Auction: Published 1989 (re-issue of The Collector/High Bid)
Bali: Published by AH 1980
Caesar's Epic Battle of Alesia: should be Caesar: The Epic Battle of Alesia
Choice: Designer is H. Goldschmidt (per the BGG database), 1st published by Avalon Hill
Civilization: there are two packaging versions of the game, with different box covers
Colonial Diplomacy: 1st published by Avalon Hill
Dune: there are three packaging versions of the game, with 2 different box covers
Game of Trivia: should be "Avalon Hill's Game of Trivia," 1st published by Avalon Hill
Gettysburg (1989): is a repackaging of Gettyburg '88
Guns of August: a 2nd edition was published
Le Mans: a 2nd edition was published
The Legends of Robin Hood: 1st published by Avalon Hill
London's Burning: 1st published by Avalon Hill
Machiavelli: a 2nd edition was published in 1995
Magic Realm: a 2nd edition was published
March Madness: 1st published by Avalon Hill
Mustangs: 1st published by Avalon Hill
Mystic Wood: 1st published by Ariel
Objective Atlanta: never published by Avalon Hill
Outdoor Survival: 1st published by Avalon Hill
Past Lives: 1st published by Avalon Hill
Pegasus Bridge: expansion for ASL, not a stand-alone game; 1st published by Avalon Hill
Point of Law: 1st published by 3M
Powers & Perils: designed by Richard Snider, 1st published by Avalon Hill
The Russian Campaign: 3 editions published
Shakespeare: should be "The Game of Shakespeare," 1st published by Avalon Hill
Squad Leader: 4 editions published
Stock Market Game: 1st published by Avalon Hill
Stock Market Guru: revised version of Stocks & Bonds
Stocks & Bonds: 1st published by 3M
Storm Over Arnhem: re-published in 1993, in folio format with photo cover.
Tactics (1983): should be "Tactics 25th Anniversary Edition"
Tobruk: 2 editions published
Tycoon: never published by Avalon Hill
Verdict (1960): should be "Verdict II" (it is a distinctly different title)
War at Sea II: expansion for War at Sea, not a stand-alone game; 1st published by Avalon Hill

Gulf Strike: 3 editions published
Gulf Strike - Desert Shield: expansion for Gulf Strike, not a stand-alone game
James Bond Action Episode Game - Live and Let Die (1985): not in your listing (as are the various other Action Episode Game sets).

Silver Jubilee Book - included in Tactics 25th Anniversary Edition


Many of the missing bits of info (year published, designer, etc.) can be found in the BGG database for the respective games.
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Hi, about Guild, I chosed to use a thread since I hope that in this way we'll have more visibility.

During next week-end, I'll try to insert all AH product numbers that I have as in the green highlighted part of the list and make cross-references to the "same" game.

Before to re-upload the list, I'll ask to you for missing numbers, OK?

A lot of editions only differs for the cover, so the only way to distinguish them is a photo.

Thanks for useful Info!
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J.L.Robert wrote:
Checking the list:

1. What's the distinguishing features between various editions of games? New collectors won't know what to look for to determine the differences. Even if it's just different boxes (like the various sports games), it would be immensely helpful.

2. I use AH's product numbers to help with my collection. Do you have this, or do you need assistance with any?

3. You should also cross-reference games which came from one another (Adel Verplichtet/By Hook or By Crook, The Collector/Auction, Management/Business Strategy, as examples.

ADDS:


Machiavelli: a 2nd edition was published in 1995


Many of the missing bits of info (year published, designer, etc.) can be found in the BGG database for the respective games.


In fact there was a kind of Version 1.5 in 1980. Packaged in the same box, but the rulebook has some changes (and it has another format) and the map is also quite different.
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J.L.Robert wrote:
Checking the list:

1. What's the distinguishing features between various editions of games? New collectors won't know what to look for to determine the differences. Even if it's just different boxes (like the various sports games), it would be immensely helpful.

2. I use AH's product numbers to help with my collection. Do you have this, or do you need assistance with any?

3. You should also cross-reference games which came from one another (Adel Verplichtet/By Hook or By Crook, The Collector/Auction, Management/Business Strategy, as examples.

ADDS:


Dune: there are three packaging versions of the game, with 2 different box covers



Many of the missing bits of info (year published, designer, etc.) can be found in the BGG database for the respective games.


J.L., can you, please, tell us more about those Dune three different packaging versions?

I know that the box first showed a sandworm. After David Lynch made the film, a Harkonnen leader resembling Sting a lot appeared in the box.

Also, the players aid pad was slightly modified for some cards.

But I didn't know anything about a third different package.
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jcairol wrote:
J.L.Robert wrote:
Dune: there are three packaging versions of the game, with 2 different box covers



Many of the missing bits of info (year published, designer, etc.) can be found in the BGG database for the respective games.


J.L., can you, please, tell us more about those Dune three different packaging versions?

I know that the box first showed a sandworm. After David Lynch made the film, a Harkonnen leader resembling Sting a lot appeared in the box.

Also, the players aid pad was slightly modified for some cards.

But I didn't know anything about a third different package.


The sandworm cover comes in two varieties. The more common one has orange box sides, like the "Sting" cover edition. A less common version has deep red-brown box sides (perhaps the color of Spice?).
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Hi, I'm working hard in order to add all codes (reference numbers) to the list and to integrate all informations gathered...

In the meantime, if you want to know the approximate value of your collection, here is a very useful tool:

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/572117/value-of-your-collect...
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THIS LIST IS AWESOME!

Thanks for putting in all the work!!

I love Avalon Hill. It's so cool to see all these great Board Games from the past.

So who is going to start the museum?
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jcairol wrote:
J.L.Robert wrote:
Checking the list:

1. What's the distinguishing features between various editions of games? New collectors won't know what to look for to determine the differences. Even if it's just different boxes (like the various sports games), it would be immensely helpful.

2. I use AH's product numbers to help with my collection. Do you have this, or do you need assistance with any?

3. You should also cross-reference games which came from one another (Adel Verplichtet/By Hook or By Crook, The Collector/Auction, Management/Business Strategy, as examples.

ADDS:


Machiavelli: a 2nd edition was published in 1995


Many of the missing bits of info (year published, designer, etc.) can be found in the BGG database for the respective games.


In fact there was a kind of Version 1.5 in 1980. Packaged in the same box, but the rulebook has some changes (and it has another format) and the map is also quite different.


I'm taking the OP's cue and not counting editions published by companies before Avalon Hill's acquisition of a game.
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Hi, the list is almost complete!

I only need following codes:

AVALON HILL
- Beat Inflation Strategy Game, The
- Choice
- Classic Statis Pro Baseball
- Greed
- Guadalcanal
- IDF (Israeli Defence Force)
- Journeys of St. Paul
- JZ
- Longest Day, The
- Nieuchess (Neuchess, Neo Chess)
- On to Richmond
- Panzergruppe Guderian
- Princess Ryan's Star Marines
- Roads to Gettysburg
- Showbiz
- Year of the Lord

VICTORY GAMES
- 2nd Fleet
- 3rd Fleet
- 5th Fleet
- 7th Fleet
- Gulf Strike (2nd edition)
- Hell's Highway
- James Bond 007 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
- Panzer Command

Thanks in advance for your help!
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AVALON HILL
550 - Choice
701 - Guadalcanal ('66)
735 - Guadalcanal ('92)
891 - IDF (Israeli Defence Force)
721 - Longest Day, The
8924 - On to Richmond
855 - Panzergruppe Guderian
908 - Princess Ryan's Star Marines
8921 - Roads to Gettysburg

VICTORY GAMES
30018 - 2nd Fleet
30031 - 3rd Fleet
30030 - 5th Fleet
30026 - 7th Fleet
30000 - Gulf Strike (2nd edition)
30002 - Hell's Highway
30008 - Panzer Command

I don't own any of the rest. But, by deduction (I have the other 6 titles published by Avalon Hill in 1961):

509 - Nieuchess
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UPDATE:

I found a lot of missing codes, so I olty miss:

AVALON HILL
- Beat Inflation Strategy Game, The (I have the game, but I cannot find any code)
- JZ

VICTORY GAMES
- James Bond 007 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service
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Viki3m wrote:
UPDATE:

I found a lot of missing codes, so I olty miss:

AVALON HILL
- Beat Inflation Strategy Game, The (I have the game, but I cannot find any code)


Find the rulebook. The back page typically has a 7-digit part number. If the game has a 2 letter prefix (like Speed Circuit or The Book of Lists Game), those two letters will precede the 7 digits.

The game's catalog number will be either the first 3 or 4 digits of that part code (along with any lettering prefix), with just a few exceptions.
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Viki3m wrote:
UPDATE:

I found a lot of missing codes, so I olty miss:

AVALON HILL
- Beat Inflation Strategy Game, The (I have the game, but I cannot find any code)

Probably I can help here - as soon as my slavemaster dismisses me into my well-earned weekend, I can take a peek at my copy.

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VICTORY GAMES
- James Bond 007 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service

What game is that? I have the JB Assault Game; do you mean the role playing game?
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Yes, it's the Role Playing Game!
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Yes, it's the Role Playing Game!

Cool, I have that one too meeple
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Viki3m wrote:
UPDATE:

I found a lot of missing codes, so I olty miss:

...

VICTORY GAMES
- James Bond 007 - On Her Majesty's Secret Service


#35015

Its a rpg. "Four solitaire role-playing adventures"
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Circus Maximus and Gladiator are both originally Battleline as is Objective Atlanta (1977 -- not sure this ever got republished by Avalon Hill except maybe a repackaging of existing components)

Nice list.
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