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This had me rolling

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/09/18/cardboard-childre...

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Let’s talk about what’s actually out there, by using some of the stupid generalisations that exist. Let’s talk Eurogames, Ameritrash and Wargames.

The games we call Eurogames usually have very little luck, and very little direct player interaction. Eurogamers react to dice like Damien reacts to that chapel visit in The Omen. These are games that will have you setting up efficient little economic or military engines on your table, like a right little Nazi. These are games that usually won’t allow any players to be eliminated, because BOO-HOO THAT’S NOT FAIR. These games will be gentle with you. Reiner Knizia is one of the best-known designers of this type of game. His games are often maths-based, and often shite. The Eurogame style is often pushed as the be-all and end-all of quality gaming. Ticket to Ride is a game that is known as a “gateway game” to other games. Yes. Other Eurogames, maybe. But building a fucking train track hardly prepares you for spewing bullets at an Ork. Eurogames are also commonly about farmers, camels, bits of fruit, planks of wood, koala bears and slaves. None of which are very easy to get passionate about. It often doesn’t matter what a Eurogame is about, though, because very rarely does a Eurogame’s mechanic express a game’s theme well. (Dr Knizia, please stand up.) Eurogames are the board games you can play in polite company, over a bowl of wine and cheese flavour Monster Munch. There are, however, some spectacularly brilliant games in the Eurogame style. And the definition itself is ridiculous anyway, so ignore everything I said.

Then we have Ameritrash. In typical American fashion, many of the greatest Ameritrash games are British in origin, but they call them “Ameritrash” anyway. Ameritrash games are all about theme, and player interaction, and lashings of delicious luck. Almost all of the great games you played as a young boy or girl will have been Ameritrash. Heroquest? Yes. Space Hulk? Yes. Thunder Road? Yes. If you’ve ever rolled a dice to hit the guy sitting to your left with a poisoned lance, causing him to storm out of the door and march back to his mum’s house with tears in his eyes, you’ve played some prime Ameritrash. Ameritrash games are looked down on by many Eurogamers, because it’s all just luck and stupid goblins and chain guns and toys and for God’s sake grow up and help me increase the workrate of these slaves in my plum orchard. Just so you know where I stand, I’m an Ameritrash man at heart. And I actually like the word “Ameritrash”. It’s full of tackiness and self-deprecation and humour, and it fits just fine. But it’s a ridiculous definition, so ignore everything I said.

Then we have Wargames. Played by grim-faced men in darkened basements. Millions of poorly illustrated counters laid across boards the size of a squash court. Games that take three months to play to completion. Games steeped in accurate historical representations of some of the most horrible times in mankind’s existence. Wargamers look on as Eurogamers and Ameritrashers squabble about “games”, and smirk at the folly of it all. Then, they turn up the collars of their coats, and walk into the wind, head bowed, fists clenched. The weight of the world on their shoulders. Fading into the distance. One look back. A smile at us. A nod. “Leave this to me.” A tear? Maybe just a trick of the light. And then gone, never to be seen again.

This is all rubbish, of course. But it’s kinda sorta the scene. You need to know the scene, the battle lines, if you want to be part of this whole mess. This whole expensive mess. And where we are right now is that Eurogames were running the show for a while there, but Ameritrash games are having a bit of a resurgence. And Wargames are still in the basement.
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wifwendell wrote:
Hey, my basement isn't dark!


Maybe your eyes have just adjusted?
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The fact it is over the top does lend the piece some charm actually.
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dkearns wrote:
wifwendell wrote:
Hey, my basement isn't dark!


Maybe your eyes have just adjusted?


No, it's just lit up by the pile of burning eurogames
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Just so you know where I stand, I’m an Ameritrash man at heart.


Really? I would never have guessed that from your definition of Eurogames....
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Unfortunatly, the best definitions for these three would have been something that ridiculed all of them, not just one and a half.
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Also, I don't see any definitions of any of the three.
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Re: The best definitions ever for Eurogame, Ameritrash, and Wargames
Eurogame = competition
Ameritrash = confrontation
Wargame = confliction
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Eurogame = boring
Ameritrash = fun
Wargame = tedious



Not that I'm biased or anything.




I actually like games from all 3 categories but often that's an accurate summation of the "genres" in general... although not of specific games.
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Thanks for bringing this to my attention Rock Paper Shotgun was one of my favorite reads back when I was more interested in video games, and I hope that will continue into board games now.

The taste of Robert Florence appears to be right down my alley, too
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winterplum wrote:
Eurogame = competition
Ameritrash = confrontation
Wargame = confliction
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docreason wrote:
The fact it is over the top


I don't know. I thought it seemed pretty accurate. laugh
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The distinctions between the three are obvious:

I like proper games, you like strange games, he likes utter crap.
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IMO, they are perfectly written. The fact that he likes Ameritrash fits in perfectly, only a pompous Ameritrasher (the author is actually British, btw) would write a piece like that! Can you imagine a wargamer denigrating the other two genres? That's something I'd recommend for an insomniac.
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Moe45673 wrote:
Can you imagine a wargamer denigrating the other two genres? That's something I'd recommend for an insomniac.

Not sure about wargamers, but Eurogamers certainly seem to be insomniacs, too.

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I like proper games, you like strange games, he likes utter crap.
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Moe45673 wrote:
IMO, they are perfectly written. The fact that he likes Ameritrash fits in perfectly, only a pompous Ameritrasher (the author is actually British, btw) would write a piece like that! Can you imagine a wargamer denigrating the other two genres? That's something I'd recommend for an insomniac.


I believe the author is actually Sco'ish, btw. At least that is the flag he was flying here on BGG.
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Eurocrap players drive me nuts. Any man who doesn't enjoy a simulated battle to the death is a nancy boy, milquetoast, weenie!
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Moe45673 wrote:
IMO, they are perfectly written. The fact that he likes Ameritrash fits in perfectly, only a pompous Ameritrasher (the author is actually British, btw) would write a piece like that! Can you imagine a wargamer denigrating the other two genres? That's something I'd recommend for an insomniac.

No, but a skilled writer could ridicule himself, too.
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Thumbed for "bowl of wine".
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Rick: Last night we said a great many things. You said I was to do the thinking for both of us. Well, I've done a lot of it since then, and it all adds up to one thing: you're getting on that plane with Victor where you belong.

Ilsa: But, Richard, no, I... I...

Rick: Now, you've got to listen to me! You have any idea what you'd have to look forward to if you stayed here? Nine chances out of ten, we'd both wind up in a concentration camp. Isn't that true, Louie?

Captain Renault: I'm afraid Major Strasser would insist.

Ilsa: You're saying this only to make me go.

Rick: I'm saying it because it's true. Inside of us, we both know you belong with Victor. You're part of his work, the thing that keeps him going. If that plane leaves the ground and you're not with him, you'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

Ilsa: But what about us?

Rick: We'll always have Paris. We didn't have, we, we lost it until you came to Casablanca. We got it back last night.

Ilsa: When I said I would never leave you.

Rick: And you never will. But I've got a job to do, too. Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of. Ilsa, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you'll understand that.

[Ilsa lowers her head and begins to cry]

Rick: Now, now...

[Rick gently places his hand under her chin and raises it so their eyes meet]

Rick: Here's looking at you kid.

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Then, they turn up the collars of their coats, and walk into the wind, head bowed, fists clenched. The weight of the world on their shoulders. Fading into the distance. One look back. A smile at us. A nod. “Leave this to me.” A tear? Maybe just a trick of the light. And then gone, never to be seen again.


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Rick: Last night we said a great many things. You said I was to do the thinking for both of us. Well, I've done a lot of it since then, and it all adds up to one thing: you're getting on that plane with Victor where you belong.

Ilsa: But, Richard, no, I... I...

Rick: Now, you've got to listen to me! You have any idea what you'd have to look forward to if you stayed here? Nine chances out of ten, we'd both wind up in a concentration camp. Isn't that true, Louie?

Captain Renault: I'm afraid Major Strasser would insist.

Ilsa: You're saying this only to make me go.

Rick: I'm saying it because it's true. Inside of us, we both know you belong with Victor. You're part of his work, the thing that keeps him going. If that plane leaves the ground and you're not with him, you'll regret it. Maybe not today. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon and for the rest of your life.

Ilsa: But what about us?

Rick: We'll always have Paris. We didn't have, we, we lost it until you came to Casablanca. We got it back last night.

Ilsa: When I said I would never leave you.

Rick: And you never will. But I've got a job to do, too. Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of. Ilsa, I'm no good at being noble, but it doesn't take much to see that the problems of three little people don't amount to a hill of beans in this crazy world. Someday you'll understand that.

[Ilsa lowers her head and begins to cry]

Rick: Now, now...

[Rick gently places his hand under her chin and raises it so their eyes meet]

Rick: Here's looking at you kid.

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Then, they turn up the collars of their coats, and walk into the wind, head bowed, fists clenched. The weight of the world on their shoulders. Fading into the distance. One look back. A smile at us. A nod. “Leave this to me.” A tear? Maybe just a trick of the light. And then gone, never to be seen again.




That's so beautiful. They should really make a movie out of it.

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My heart is torn in three! ajajaja

I´m a Eurotrash Wargamer!

I´m a space marine and a half... with 3 hearts
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nexttothemoon wrote:
Eurogame = boring
Ameritrash = fun
Wargame = tedious


Eurogame = brain
Ameritrash = heart
Wargame = penis

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