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If I play a game with my friends & family and I record it, and they have a bgg username I think that it should show up under their account as well. Each person should not have to record the play for every game.
Adding plays is a neat idea but if each person needs to add it to be in their account it becomes alot more like bookkeeping and becomes redundant.
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No.

This has been brought up over and over, and never flies.

The two main concerns are privacy, and integrity of other user's data.

The only marginally acceptable way to to that would be to opt-in for each individual user to give them permission to do it, but I'd still be opposed to it.
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fnord23 wrote:
No.

This has been brought up over and over, and never flies.

The two main concerns are privacy, and integrity of other user's data.

The only marginally acceptable way to to that would be to opt-in for each individual user to give them permission to do it, but I'd still be opposed to it.

Why? I hate duplicate bookkeeping.

If the person is on your friends list it should be auto approved or otherwise you can set how to deal with it some where in your profile:
either decline all, accept all or prompt.
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What part of "privacy and integrity of other user's data" is hard to understand?

No one should be able to affect another user's data without explicit permission.

Given the issues involved, and limited appeal, there are far more important things for the developers' limited time to be spent on.
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fnord23 wrote:
No.

This has been brought up over and over, and never flies.

The two main concerns are privacy, and integrity of other user's data.

The only marginally acceptable way to to that would be to opt-in for each individual user to give them permission to do it, but I'd still be opposed to it.

Why? I hate duplicate bookkeeping.

If the person is on your friends list it should be auto approved or otherwise you can set how to deal with it some where in your profile:
either decline all, accept all or prompt.


One of my main concerns is how games are logged. I do NOT log
...plays on expansions I was using.
...board games played on the xbox.

If one of my friends started logging plays on my behalf it would irritate me. I use my data for a variety of things and reporting, I would not want someone else adding or removing plays that linked to my account.
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fnord23 wrote:
What part of "privacy and integrity of other user's data" is hard to understand?

No one should be able to affect another user's data without explicit permission.

Given the issues involved, and limited appeal, there are far more important things for the developers' limited time to be spent on.

What part of "settings in your account" can you not understand?

My response was not rude nor an attack like yours. It tried to come up with a solution in which nothing would change for people like you while still giving the option for others to maintain aa working collection of their plays.

What is the point of even having a spot to record other players usernames if it does not at least alert them of such things?
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I think the main issue here is that so many people use such a variety of ways to record information that it could be a features that would get worked on that could see relatively little use.

I certainly understand your suggestion, I just do not see a widespread need for it.
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This is a great idea that has been suggested several times, and if implemented I think it would be widely used:

Sharing Games Played Records (by Dunyazad)
Logged Plays for Multiple Users (by MrMan2k3)
Collective game logs (by weishaupt)
Would be nice if BGG users added to game plays cross-posted to their profile (by XanderF)
Played Games (by FinnTroll)

Most importantly, Dan Karp has said it will be part of the overhauled play recording (along with a bunch of other improvements) - although this project is on hold for now. When implemented, the other users can choose to accept or reject the play into their history. Additionally, you can optionally allow them to edit some but not all of the data (they won't be able to delete it).
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col_w wrote:
This is a great idea that has been suggested several times, and if implemented I think it would be widely used:

Sharing Games Played Records (by Dunyazad)
Logged Plays for Multiple Users (by MrMan2k3)
Collective game logs (by weishaupt)
Would be nice if BGG users added to game plays cross-posted to their profile (by XanderF)
Played Games (by FinnTroll)

Most importantly, Dan Karp has said it will be part of the overhauled play recording (along with a bunch of other improvements) - although this project is on hold for now. When implemented, the other users can choose to accept or reject the play into their history. Additionally, you can optionally allow them to edit some but not all of the data (they won't be able to delete it).

Nice to see my idea is not as useless as some would say it is.
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If you don't like a feature, don't use it. I think a lot of people would use this feature. I found this thread in a search of how to do it.

I assumed that because I was seeing the hyperlink it was possible. I independently realized that it was a security issue, and figured there was an option I needed to turn on. Its simple, and helpful.
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I'd get pretty annoyed if other recorded plays for me, simply because the reason I don't record plays is due to that it doesn't reflect reality at all: I forget to record, and the games I recorded didn't sum up to what I was actually playing which resulted in me wanting to go with a notebook to record everthing I play so I could log it on BGG later on and then I forgot that note and I would just think of the bloody note whenever I went to a game convention and thinking that "I have to play game XXX because I haven't logged a ply in a while" and that annoying thought of logging the game was present whenever I played games and…

…and when I finally dropped it, I found out I had a lot of more fun with the games I played.

And as I know that most people that log plays regard the play logs as trustable information, I'd much rather not have any logged plays at all than some arbitrary logs here and there.

So while I realise the suggestion is nice for database purposes, I can't but agree with Chris that it's an integrity question. I don't want plays logged for me, so if that function is created, I want a way to block it.
 
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Zimeon wrote:

So while I realise the suggestion is nice for database purposes, I can't but agree with Chris that it's an integrity question. I don't want plays logged for me, so if that function is created, I want a way to block it.

Of course. just about every option has a off button on this site.
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The lack of this feature has bugged me for a couple of years now and I have tracked the frequent requests for this feature and the endless complaints for and against it's implementation.

Few suggestions are universally embraced (especially with regard to changes in an established system like BGG), there will be people that want a new feature and those that want the status quo.

It seems like there is a very simple solution:

1. Users elect to be notified of plays they are listed in.
2. Play recorders ask if they wish to notify the usernames they have listed in a play
3. If notified and opted in to notification they receive a message asking if they would like to have this play added to their own play history.

I don't think I have missed any security or privacy concerns here, certainly not from an EU perspective (although I accept US laws differ).

Also apologies for the threadomancy but I am keen to see this feature implemented, especially given the increased simplicity of recording plays via mobiles.
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ragados wrote:
The lack of this feature has bugged me for a couple of years now and I have tracked the frequent requests for this feature and the endless complaints for and against it's implementation.

Few suggestions are universally embraced (especially with regard to changes in an established system like BGG), there will be people that want a new feature and those that want the status quo.

It seems like there is a very simple solution:

1. Users elect to be notified of plays they are listed in.
2. Play recorders ask if they wish to notify the usernames they have listed in a play
3. If notified and opted in to notification they receive a message asking if they would like to have this play added to their own play history.

I don't think I have missed any security or privacy concerns here, certainly not from an EU perspective (although I accept US laws differ).

Also apologies for the threadomancy but I am keen to see this feature implemented, especially given the increased simplicity of recording plays via mobiles.

Threadnomancy is always acceptable if it's something I am trying to push for too!! hahaha

But yes I agree. It would be very easy to implement this AND still respect any privacy concerns people would have.
Who knows if it is lack of desire to write it(which you think from a design/database stand point it would be pretty easy) or just a listening to the whiners reasoning for not doing it.
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Just saw this. This is the most annoying feature to me NOT to have because it separates all of my friends games played from mine. It would be sweet to have it all link so we could comment almost like a thread start in facebook or something. Would add lots of flavor to the feature.

With that, I guess knowing people commented on your plays would help too...I usually don't know, just have to check to see someone stealthily replied to my play.
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col_w wrote:
This is a great idea that has been suggested several times, and if implemented I think it would be widely used:

Sharing Games Played Records (by Dunyazad)
Logged Plays for Multiple Users (by MrMan2k3)
Collective game logs (by weishaupt)
Would be nice if BGG users added to game plays cross-posted to their profile (by XanderF)
Played Games (by FinnTroll)

Most importantly, Dan Karp has said it will be part of the overhauled play recording (along with a bunch of other improvements) - although this project is on hold for now. When implemented, the other users can choose to accept or reject the play into their history. Additionally, you can optionally allow them to edit some but not all of the data (they won't be able to delete it).

I didn't realize that this did NOT happen... I thought if you actually bothered to enter your GeekBuddy's username into your play record, that it would show up for them too.

What a strong DISINCENTIVE to bother to log my plays carefully. The whole point of being GeekBuddies with someone (IMO) is that you know and trust them... if my husband records a game that we played, OF COURSE I want it to show up in my logs!

I guess adding a checkbox or set of options to either have to approve all game-play log entries made by others, and/or to deny all game-play logging entries made by others should address the concerns of those who manage their records in a very particular way, but for most of us who see playing as a social thing and who would want game-play logging to be a natural extension of that, it would be a win to just DO IT.
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Hopefully this will be in the next version of bgg. Or at least added soon. It really is not a complicated thing to do from a back end perspective.
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