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I freely admit that I'll never read the Harry Potter series - for various reasons, including time and interest in other books I want to get to first. However, I've mostly enjoyed the films that hit the high points of the story (currently, I'm through Half-Blood Prince). They've left me with a question, though (which might be answered in the final two films), that I hope a Potter-phile can answer:

What was Voldemort's specific motivation or cause for choosing the path he chose? Did Rowling go into much depth that the films haven't? Even Gollum and Anakin Skywalker had specific life experiences that drove them down their dark paths. Did she just leave it at "he's simply power-hungry" and leave it at that?
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Sinister Dexter wrote:
I freely admit that I'll never read the Harry Potter series - for various reasons, including time and interest in other books I want to get to first. However, I've mostly enjoyed the films that hit the high points of the story (currently, I'm through Half-Blood Prince). They've left me with a question, though (which might be answered in the final two films), that I hope a Potter-phile can answer:

What was Voldemort's specific motivation or cause for choosing the path he chose? Did Rowling go into much depth that the films haven't? Even Gollum and Anakin Skywalker had specific life experiences that drove them down their dark paths. Did she just leave it at "he's simply power-hungry" and leave it at that?


There isn't much to go on, as far as I remember.

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He discovers as a kid that he has power, and that power goes to his head. He manages to hide this somewhat while at Hogwarts, but afterwards goes on his rampage.


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There's also something about the horcruxes that removes his humanity, since his soul has been split seven times, so there's so little soul left.


Someone more knowlegable than me might be able to give you a better answer, though.
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The book Half-blood Prince gives the circumstances of his birth, and that offers some insight. It seems to me that by the time Dumbledore contacts him at the orphanage, he is already thoroughly evil and hungry for power.
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I had a theory about this in 2007. Just to find out, that Voldemort was just evil...because.
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Sinister Dexter wrote:
I freely admit that I'll never read the Harry Potter series - for various reasons, including time and interest in other books I want to get to first. However, I've mostly enjoyed the films that hit the high points of the story (currently, I'm through Half-Blood Prince). They've left me with a question, though (which might be answered in the final two films), that I hope a Potter-phile can answer:

What was Voldemort's specific motivation or cause for choosing the path he chose? Did Rowling go into much depth that the films haven't? Even Gollum and Anakin Skywalker had specific life experiences that drove them down their dark paths. Did she just leave it at "he's simply power-hungry" and leave it at that?


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I'm sure someone with a better memory will have a more complete answer, I'm not sure how much of this is covered in the movie since I haven't seen them.

Voldemort is the son of a witch and a muggle. The witch was from a family of a long line of wizards who viewed themselves as better than everyone else and wanted to keep their bloodline pure. As a result, they were very in-bred and rather dim-witted & proud.

The daughter in this family took a liking to Tom Riddle, a rich, handsome muggle. Her father was deeply set against this, he would want her to only marry someone of pureblood.

The daughter had to bewitch Tom Riddle in order to get him interested in her.

Eventually she tired of bewitching him and hoped that he had developed real feelings for her. Once the spell was broken, however, he hadn't and left her poor, heartbroken and no longer able to care for her son.

So her son ends up in the orphanage.

My take is that having never been loved, Voldemort doesn't learn to love others. He views himself as being betrayed by his mother, he is angry and dismissive of her & he puts up a wall to protect himself from being vulnerable. He sees things as more important than people because things will not betray you. He resents & dismisses family bonds and views love as weakness. Later when he seeks out his father & is rejected by him, it confirms and cements these beliefs.

Having never allowed himself to love, the only good he can feel is when he has power over others.

My take is that he fears death and tries to hold on to life because he was unable to hold onto the home and family life that he should have had as a child with his mother.
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This has spoilers, so read with caution:

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/voldemort-narrative.html

From the HP Lexicon site.
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EgorjLileli wrote:
This has spoilers, so read with caution:

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/voldemort-narrative.html

From the HP Lexicon site.


Thanks, that's an excellent summary of his career.
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Sinister Dexter wrote:
EgorjLileli wrote:
This has spoilers, so read with caution:

http://www.hp-lexicon.org/wizards/voldemort-narrative.html

From the HP Lexicon site.


Thanks, that's an excellent summary of his career.


You're welcome. There are a couple of VERY GOOD HP sites out there. I used to be a member of one way back when.
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Because a mugger shot his parents in crime alley.
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NostraDouglas wrote:
Because a muggle shot his parents in crime alley.


FTFY
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LennyS wrote:
NostraDouglas wrote:
Because a muggle shot his parents in crime alley.


FTFY


I think he's referring to Bruce "Malvolio" Wayne.
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Sinister Dexter wrote:
LennyS wrote:
NostraDouglas wrote:
Because a muggle shot his parents in crime alley.


FTFY


I think he's referring to Bruce "Malvolio" Wayne.


Yeah!! I was not certain, but: I did understand it, I did.
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Sinister Dexter wrote:
I freely admit that I'll never read the Harry Potter series - for various reasons, including time and interest in other books I want to get to first. However, I've mostly enjoyed the films that hit the high points of the story


Totally understand "so many books, so little time," as I was slightly late to the HP bandwagon myself for just that reason. They are worth your while, though, so when you do get time, ignore all the hype and jump in. You won't find great literature. You will find one *hell* of a story, artfully told.

And the last four films are much easier to appreciate once you've read the books. I have a friend who's never read them, but indulged me by going with me to all of the films as a birthday gift (for a while there, they opened on my birthday every year, so it was a quick and easy night out), and in the middle of the fifth film, he leaned over and said, "Just so you know, I have absolutely no idea what's going on." My reply: "That's okay. I've read the books, and I'm still trying to figure out how they got this film out of that book."
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