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The German Spiel des Jahres (aka. game of the year) nominees have just been announced (thanks to Guido from http://de.trictrac.net/index.php?app=news&news=die-nominiert... for the list!

Game of the year nominees:
- Eselsbrücke (Dorra, Zur Linde bei Schmidt Spiele)
- Kingdom Builder (Vaccarino bei Queen Games)
- Vegas (Dorn bei Alea Spiele/Ravensburger)


recommended:
- Drecksau (Bebenroth bei Kosmos)
- Indigo (Knizia bei Ravensburger)
- Kalimambo (Scrittore bei Zoch)
- Miss Lupun und das Geheimnis der Zahlen (Sing, Gebhardt bei Winning Moves)
- Kulami (Kuhnekath bei Steffen Spiele)
- Santa Cruz (Casasola-Merkle bei Hans im Glück)
- Pictomania (Chvatil bei Pegasus)
- Rapa Nui (Wrede bei Kosmos)

Kennerspiel of the year nominees:
- K2 (Kaluza bei Rebel.pl)
- Targi (Steiger bei Kosmos)
- Village (Brand, Brand bei eggertspiele)


recommended:
- Freitag (Friese bei 2F-Spiele)
- Hawaii (Daigle bei Hans im Glück)
- Ora et Labora (Rosenberg bei Lookout Games)

Children's game of the year nominees:
- Die kleinen Drachenritter (Teubner bei Huch & friends)
- Schnappt Hubi (Bogen bei Ravensburger)
- Spinnengift und Krötenschleim (Teuber bei Kosmos)


recommended:
- Captain Kidd (Lange, Lange bei Beleduc)
- Coraxis & Co (Frei, Frei und Frei bei Queen Games)
- Flossen hoch! (Grein-Böttcher bei Zoch)
- Hexenhochhaus (Kreowski bei Drei Magier Spiele/Schmidt)
- Klack! (Shafir bei Amigo)
- Mogel Motte (Brand, Brand bei Drei Magier Spiele/Schmidt)
- Monster-Alarm (de Faveri bei Die Spiegelburg/Coppenrath)
- Scout - Zirkus Stapelix (Bos bei Kosmos)
- Super Rhino! (Strumpf und Frisco bei Haba)
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No one tell Tom that Hawaii is on the recommended list. ninja
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Siouxfire wrote:
No one tell Tom that Hawaii is on the recommended list. ninja


I already told him last week, in the comments of his Hawaii Part 2 review

So this is another proof that he is totally wrong on this one whistle
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Thanks for posting that! The nominees and recommended games are also posted over at the official Spiele des Jahres site:

http://www.spiel-des-jahres.com/cms/front_content.php?idcat=...

And a Geeklist with links to the individual games:

Kennerspiel & Spiel des Jahres 2012: All the Nominees and Recommended Games
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I've head of one of the games from that list.
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I don't know why anyone still takes this "award" seriously, it jumped the shark long ago, 7 wonders got the hard core game prize last year, that is the extend of the joke this award is. The portuguese awards is the most reliable current board game award by far, the SdJ is gliding on its tradition.
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The SDJ ist the industries most important award. And for me its always a good guide. If a game makes SDJ its a good game there is never an exception.
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Weak year. That is all.
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Weak year. That is all.


Judging from how few of those games I am familiar with, let alone played, relative to previous years, I have to agree with you.
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Weak year. That is all.


Judging from how few of those games I am familiar with, let alone played, relative to previous years, I have to agree with you.


Apparently, my taste in games and the German gaming market have started to part ways.

Adios, Germany, we will always have 2003. *sniff*
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http://www.boardgamegeek.com/blogpost/10575/nominees-for-the...

Spiel des Jahres and Kennerspiel des Jahres 2012 - Most Glaring Omissions
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eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.

That doesn't make the award irrelevant - it is far from it. This award does more to expand the hobby game market than anything else out there.
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T Worthington wrote:
eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.

That doesn't make the award irrelevant - it is far from it. This award does more to expand the hobby game market than anything else out there.


Agree. When I first got in to hobby gaming (from RPGs), I would look to the SdJ and found some great games. It really expanded my interests.

But, as I got sucked into the hobby, I started to want to play deeper and more complex games. So, frankly, the SdJ is no longer a good resource for me.

But it isn't because the SdJ has "gone downhill" or "sold out" or anything so silly as that. Instead, I'm just no longer in the target market for the SdJ. I think that's what happens to the vast majority of us.
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SDJ scope is a "regular" family, with kids aged 8-12, I always need to remember that, when reading SDJ nominations lists.

But clearly Ora et Labora should be on the nominees list, not just the recommendations list.

As it has mentioned before, SDJ is mainly a "commercial" award targeted as a advanced recommendation tool for the mass market.
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T Worthington wrote:
eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.

That doesn't make the award irrelevant - it is far from it. This award does more to expand the hobby game market than anything else out there.


I would submit that it only has this honor by default.
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Re: The German "Spiel des Jahres" nominees are announced!
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T Worthington wrote:
eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.

That doesn't make the award irrelevant - it is far from it. This award does more to expand the hobby game market than anything else out there.


I would submit that it only has this honor by default.


It is the only award that drives sales - a SdJ winner will sell 500,000 copies around the world as a result of the selection.
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T Worthington wrote:
eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.

That doesn't make the award irrelevant - it is far from it. This award does more to expand the hobby game market than anything else out there.


I would submit that it only has this honor by default.


It is the only award that drives sales - a SdJ winner will sell 500,000 copies around the world as a result of the selection.


Agree. By default. It's the only one... in spite of its merits.
 
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eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.

That doesn't make the award irrelevant - it is far from it. This award does more to expand the hobby game market than anything else out there.


I would submit that it only has this honor by default.


It is the only award that drives sales - a SdJ winner will sell 500,000 copies around the world as a result of the selection.


Agree. By default. It's the only one... in spite of its merits.


Three are plenty of other awards - so saying by default downplays the work that that SdJ to establish that credibility and impact. If it were that easy then there would be a similar award in the US (which I would greatly appreciate).
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T Worthington wrote:
eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.

That doesn't make the award irrelevant - it is far from it. This award does more to expand the hobby game market than anything else out there.


I would submit that it only has this honor by default.


It is the only award that drives sales - a SdJ winner will sell 500,000 copies around the world as a result of the selection.


Agree. By default. It's the only one... in spite of its merits.


Three are plenty of other awards - so saying by default downplays the work that that SdJ to establish that credibility and impact. If it were that easy then there would be a similar award in the US (which I would greatly appreciate).


I just need something more than how many copies a game has sold to make me give any credence or weight to it's "gaming" worth. Likewise for the award triggering such sales.

I got your American des Jahres right here:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/142487/spiel-des-eek-2...
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eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.

That doesn't make the award irrelevant - it is far from it. This award does more to expand the hobby game market than anything else out there.


I would submit that it only has this honor by default.


It is the only award that drives sales - a SdJ winner will sell 500,000 copies around the world as a result of the selection.


Agree. By default. It's the only one... in spite of its merits.


Three are plenty of other awards - so saying by default downplays the work that that SdJ to establish that credibility and impact. If it were that easy then there would be a similar award in the US (which I would greatly appreciate).


I just need something more than how many copies a game has sold to make me give any credence or weight to it's "gaming" worth. Likewise for the award triggering such sales.

I got your American des Jahres right here: :p

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/142487/spiel-des-eek-2...


The award may not be relevant to you - but that won't stop you and like countless others will post these comments saying the award is not relevant (or the selected games aren't as good as when you first started the hobby and actually played gateway games) for the next several months.

Which of course takes the argument full circle, so will repeat:

eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.
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T Worthington wrote:
eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eekamouse wrote:
T Worthington wrote:
eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.

That doesn't make the award irrelevant - it is far from it. This award does more to expand the hobby game market than anything else out there.


I would submit that it only has this honor by default.


It is the only award that drives sales - a SdJ winner will sell 500,000 copies around the world as a result of the selection.


Agree. By default. It's the only one... in spite of its merits.


Three are plenty of other awards - so saying by default downplays the work that that SdJ to establish that credibility and impact. If it were that easy then there would be a similar award in the US (which I would greatly appreciate).


I just need something more than how many copies a game has sold to make me give any credence or weight to it's "gaming" worth. Likewise for the award triggering such sales.

I got your American des Jahres right here:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/142487/spiel-des-eek-2...


The award may not be relevant to you - but that won't stop you and like countless others will post these comments saying the award is not relevant (or the selected games aren't as good as when you first started the hobby and actually played gateway games) for the next several months.

Which of course takes the argument full circle, so will repeat:

eventually everyone will realize that the SdJ is not aimed at the hard core gamers that like to comment that they think the award is irrelevant.


Just because I post here, how do you know it doesn't fall into my wheelhouse. I play heavy games and war games, but also games with my family.

There are better games that fit their "criteria". Better games not released in Germany. The fact the award is German-only is a strike against it's relevancy for people not in Germany. The fact that they don't seem to venture outside the box by even the slightest is another strike against it.

But, let's leave well enough alone and let the SdJ stay where it is. I think we can agree that there should be other like-minded awards that have just as much clout. It wouldn't be that hard. Honestly.
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Case in point, I plan now to purchase Eselsbrücke at some point this summer, win or not. I'm sure that I never would've given the game a second thought if it hadn't popped up in discussions re. SdJ nominations.

As a relatively heavy gamer, I like SdJ just the way it is. Weird, slightly goofy, and highly unpredictable. It's not as if there aren't venues and awards that showcase the games that I like to focus on. So, to me it would be depressing to see SdJ nominees that were essentially the same "gamer's games" that pepper the BGG hotlist and are touted on the popular BGG blogs.
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A game that wins SdJ sells x number of copies, therefore it must be good. Only good games win SdJ. Sounds like a thin argument. What about: many of the games that won SdJ have been good, therefore ANY game wins SdJ will sell x number of copies; this doesn't mean necessarily the game is particularly good rather it has brand recognition.

And oh, what is the point of KdJ? It's now pretty obvious that its not meeting it's original criteria which was for games with more depth to them (I think people were expecting something similar to those games awarded a special prize, like Agricola). It's like SdJ 2 or fluff part 2. Is this necessary? I could see a lightweight, middleweight, and heavyweight set of awards, but KdJ isn't even meeting middleweight criteria.
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A lot of you gamers seem to forget what the idea of that award is. Travis summarized it perfectly, I don't need to repeat that.

If you're looking for an renommated award for "gamers games", then you need to have a look at the "Deutsche Spielepreis", which is an award that is given out by the players in Germany that are voting for the best gamers games in the year. So in your eyes this is the much more representative award for "advanced" gamers like we probably all are here.

have a look at the winners of the past years here: http://www.deutscherspielepreis.de/p060.php4
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In my opinion the Kennerspiel nominees are not that bad if you take into consideration that it is not a price for hardcoe gamer games but for games that are a little more complex than the Spiel des Jahres games. I don't know K2 but Targi and Village are nice games that fit well in this category.
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