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The inundated painter

Too many miniatures, and nowhere near enough spare time in which to paint them! Here I shall record the results of my efforts to bring my embarassingly large assortment of unpainted miniatures up to presentation quality.
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So many miniatures, so little time!

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G'day all.

I find myself in what I suppose must be a fairly common situation around here: I have a heap of games sitting on my shelf, all with various amounts of plastic miniatures sitting inside them, all eagerly waiting to be painted. And, as much as I tried to discipline myself time and time again not to buy a new game until I'd finished painting the minis from the previous ones, I simply can't help myself.

My list of unpainted games is certainly not monolithic, but when you paint at the painstaking speed that I do, and consider that each game has a decent count of miniatures, it amounts to quite a lot of work to be done:
DungeonQuest
Dungeon Twister 2: Prison
Earth Reborn
Space Hulk 3e
Descent: JitD, WoD, AoD and ToI
Wrath of Ashardalon

The situation came to a head a couple of weeks ago, when I was up in Sydney for a work conference. The conference was completed, and I had a couple of hours to kill before needing to check in at the airport. Naturally, I decided to browse one of the local game stores. The very friendly staff member smiled, weclomed me and asked if I needed any help. I smiled back, and politely stated that I was just browsing. I spent ten minutes or so just wandering the aisles, with my hands shoved firmly and resolutely in my front pockets, away from my wallet. I was doing just fine, right up until I saw it.

DooM: The Boardgame.

Now, a little background: I'm an old computer gamer, and only recently converted to board games. Both Wolfenstein 3D, and DooM hold a soft spot in my heart. At the decline of my computer gaming years, I also played the much later version 3 of DooM, and enjoyed it immensely. I have quite a few friends around who are also old computer gamers, and I've been itching to get them around for a board gaming session. I've just been holding out for the right game to do it with. Anyway, on with the story...

Steady, I told myself. You've read about this one, and although it would be a fantastic game to introduce for a game night, it has serious balance issues, and apparently needs the expansion in order to be remotely playable. Besides, you're a completionist, and both this and the expansion are out of print, so you'll just drive yourself nuts if you get this and can't get... wait, what's that sitting next to it? Oh.

DooM: the Expansion

To my credit, I didn't purchase them immediately. I spent a good half an hour in the park, arguing silently with myself first. Pretty weak defense, hey?

Now, I've become quite good at secreting large-ish boxes around various parts of our property, so that my darling wife doesn't discover them straight away. However, it's pretty damn hard to hide two massive boxes when you're coming home from the airport and all you've got is an overnight bag. My long-suffering wife finally blew up at me, and demanded that I stop buying games that I never end up playing.

I will play them, I said, just as soon as I finished painting them. And then she gave me the Look.

So, I'm going to dedicate as much spare time as I have (which is not all that much, having a couple of young kids to raise and all) to getting these damn miniatures painted. My initial priority was Space Hulk, but that has now shifted to DooM. My eldest is just turning seven, and although we have played Space Hulk (with unpainted minis) before, the finer subtleties of strategy will be a few years in coming to him yet. But DooM - oh yes, I dearly wish to invite my old computer gaming buddies over for an evening, and bring this baby out. And, wanting to make a good first impression, I'll need it to be looking top-notch.

Hence this blog. It will serve a few purposes:
1) It will be a running journal off all the painting I've done to date. Posts will include pictures (of course!), but also I will annotate them with colours used, and any techniques that I've learned/tried out. As to how exciting a read that will be for anyone, well, I'm not forcing you to read it, OK?
2) It will (hopefully) also serve as a motivation to continue painting. Posts are likely to be few and far between, but as long as I make some sort of progress on a regular-ish basis, I can be content.
3) Maybe, just maybe, someone out there will find my posts useful, entertaining, or informative. Bit of an ask, but you never know...

My next post shouldn't be too far away (as I've already completed the minis in question), so stay tuned!

Cheers,
Birdman.
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Gergely CZUPPON
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Check the Miniature Painters Guild...

Might be useful.
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  • Posted Fri May 27, 2011 7:11 am
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I could have write myself the story almost word by word, so you have all my symphaty and i'll check your painting progress to see if i can finish mine!
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Bravo to not giving in right there and then, and actually arguing with yourself for half an hour! I could never bring myself to do that. I am just glad my wife is (still) very tolerant and that I have no problem playing with unpainted miniatures.

However, I am considering to start painting miniatures, especially for Descent and all the expansions you mention owning (they are all I have of the series too), so I would be very interested in seeing your results and matching them with my expectations (colour-wise) and the pictures of the monsters and heroes in the rules booklets and on the hero sheets respectively. I am not a painter, so it would be great to know what colours I should use to get at least a half-decent result.
I will definitely be keeping an eye on your posts!

Maybe a bit off-topic, but perhaps you (or others who own both games) will still be willing to let me know: what does having DooM add to having Descent, as I thought they were both in the same league? I can imagine DooM is more action-oriented and they obviously have different themes, but is there anything else that really sets them apart?

Good luck finding the time to do some painting!
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leaxe wrote:
Check the Miniature Painters Guild...

Might be useful.

Now, how did I miss that? I'm now a member - thanks for the link!

Co1980 wrote:
Maybe a bit off-topic, but perhaps you (or others who own both games) will still be willing to let me know: what does having DooM add to having Descent, as I thought they were both in the same league? I can imagine DooM is more action-oriented and they obviously have different themes, but is there anything else that really sets them apart?


DooM is the direct predecessor of Descent. I had originally bought Descent because I was looking for a D&D-ish game that didn't require all the hours of preparation that a Dungeon Master is required to put in. (Of course, these hours are simply transfered over to the game play itself, but at least you're enjoying the company of friends while it's happening.) Descent was in print and available at my FLGS, DooM wasn't. I don't regret the purchase, but by golly, what a LOT of miniatures! And then of course, my O/C completionist personality kicks in, and I start getting the expansions...

As far as gameplay goes, I believe they're pretty similar, but DooM, being the earlier game, has a slightly lighter rule set. This, plus the nostalgia factor of the computer game, was the main reason I got it. Plus, DooM only supports up to four players. Yes, sounds a little silly, but I know for a fact that I'll have far less trouble summoning three of my old buddies together at one time than four. And Descent is really best when played with five people.

And the final clincher - it has far fewer miniatures to paint, such that I have a reasonable hope of being able to finish the job sometime this year!
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Co1980 wrote:
what does having DooM add to having Descent, as I thought they were both in the same league?

They share the same mechanic (i don't remember who derive from who) but i like Doom much more than Descent, although it is hard to give a "full-rational" reason.
Is not a matter of theme, as i like high fantasy and sci-fi game, but i'm not a fan of the Domm universe.
Descent make me bored 'cause after some time i feel doing the very same thing over and over, 'cause the scripted character. Also in Doom (where the abilities of the players are set by drawing 3 cards) you'll have the Melee specialist or the "Sniper", but i feel it more flexible (so, you can always do what you're not best for and still have a good degree of success).
Swapping weapons, struggling for ammos, bouncing grenades and "overcompensating big guns" all makes Doom more "fresh" and fun, to me.
The only glitch it have, to me, is that it is a bit too long, but with experienced players this is very a minor thing.

I've seen counter-arguments against every one of these points, so i guess that you may decide only by trying them both.

Hope that helps.
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Great blog idea!
Doom is the game that brought me back into mini painting (the whole game+extension took me 9 months but it's another story whistle...). Playing with a fully painted set is definitely a treat.
My 2 cents :
- Doom has some subtle strategies, too. Different from SH, but still.
- I also think the mechanics fit more to the theme than in Descent (spawning, etc...).
- Make sure you wash the minis very carefully before basecoating. The plastic is kinda "oily".
- Several minis are warped, but the hot/cold bath works fine.
Don't hesitate to GM me, should you need any info.
PS: I saw your Homer zombie, awesome!
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You are definately among friends here! I have a stack of Battlelore expansions along with the base game that is awaiting my attention (I have the archers primed and ready to go whenever I get the urge to start painting them). Oh, and Battles of Napoleon, British and American troops for Disposable Heroes, Defenders of the Realm, Ashardalon and Ravenloft all need to be done..... Yeah right.

I think I burned myself out a bit when I finished painting armies for La Petit Armee. I hope to get that itch back soon! Looking at the sea of figures doesn't help!

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I feel your pain brother.
Time is something we all need around here.

When I travel I try to bring an extra duffle bag or a suitcase that is expandable. This is how I was able to get War of the Ring and its expansion Battles of the Third Age home under the radar.

I have not bought a new game for a really long time (maybe 45 days)... But I do have a long list of games just waiting to be painted. Right now I am working on painting 4 sets of Battle Cry while doing family time, working, and finishing my MBA.

Space Hulk
Fire and Axe
Conquest of the Empire
War of the Ring
 
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birdman37 wrote:
... And then she gave me the Look. ...

I have been the recipient of "the Look" from my wife ... also because of getting more games then she thinks I need.

soblue


Your story almost caused me to spit out my lunch all over my monitor.

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I can TOTALLY relate. I have gotten "the Look" as well.
 
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doom and the expansion BARELY fit in the original box. Shoulda tried that before heading home.


 
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I understand your need to paint those beatiful minis!

Look at me, i'm tryng to made with the green stuff the three minis of betrayal:
the dog, the madman and the girl, then i'll paint them....
probably i'll finish the next month, then i coul post some pics!
 
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I also got back into boardgames after moving to Chicago from Orange County CA, I was looking for something to do during these winters. I had my folks ship out my old Hero quest and Dragonstrike games that I'd saved. The early paint jobs I did at 14-15 were terrible lol. I've got the bug again and have bought up a bunch of games.

Descent - Everything w/ the Descent logo in it!
-Heroes are all painted, beastmen, skelies too.
-good bit of everything else primed black.

Heroquest
-some still painted from childhood. Looking to strip and redo them all.

Dragonstrike

-some still painted from childhood. Looking to strip and redo them all.

Dungeonquest
Bought this for the heroes to use in Descent, still a great game. Heroes are painted.

D&D Castle Ravenloft

Heroes and the Flesh Golem are primed.

D&D Wrath of Ashardalon

Opened but untouched for the most part T_T

Space Hulk
Nicely stored in Battlefoam. Still unprimed. These are so nice that I'm almost just too hesitant to start painting until I feel more confident.

Now for the icing on the cake. I just recently picked up...

Dust Tactics
I just bought TWO copies of the base game because it's such a great value and the minis are awesome!
I also bought the two command squads!
These come pre-primed at least!

To counterbalance all of these new unpainted minis,

I bought Claustrophobia... they are pre-painted! I still will probably do some touch ups tho.

Needless to say there are plenty of us out there who love to just have these games. The painting takes time but if you really just want to play, maybe you should forgo some of the more time consuming aspects and just do a quick n dirty method to get them on the table.

I'm a perfectionist so I spend way too much time on each one. I'm just now starting to be able to put a mini down and call it done. The Descent minis I've done so far are so small that many of the fine details I spend so much time on are barely noticeable to the naked eye.

It's going to take a while to have all of this stuff painted

You are not alone!
 
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