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So here I am again with the second instalment of my holiday gaming blog. When I signed off last time we had just cracked open the wrapping on Race For The Galaxy and were waiting to attack San Juan before maybe considering some new games for the collection. As you'll read, if you stay with me, things have moved on apace since then...

We stayed with Race for a couple more plays, both really enjoying the cut and thrust of the game, and the way that tactics can really evolve and change throughout, with a marked increase in tempo and tension towards the end. After 5 plays, in the end we ended up roughly even on wins, me just edging it out. Our last two were as follows:

Me 43 – She 35
She 44 – Me 42 (ooh!)

So, having got Race under our belts we moved on to San Juan for its first play. Upon reading the instructions the mechanic looked similar to that of Race For The Galaxy, but it was much easier to get into and understand straight away. As somebody pointed out in response to my first blog, it would have made more sense to begin with San Juan, but there we go. After a few plays of this I feel that it is a little less involved than Race, and is more subject to the cards one draws, whereas Race allows you to achieve victory through several different routes. This is very much my first impression, however, and Katie took to this game straight away, enjoying the theme and the playing very much. After six plays honours are even, and the gaps tended to be larger than in Race For The Galaxy:

She 36 – Me 20
Me 34 – She 26
She 45 – Me 36 (getting the hang of it!)
Me 44 – She 27
She 40 – Me 29
Me 45 – She 33

We also played a single game of Basilica, one which I enjoy and have reviewed, Katie fighting her way back from a mistake in the first round to win 54 points to my 46. Then, however, we discovered that there was a game shop only 45 minutes away...

...and returned with four new games, hurrah! I am now the very proud and similarly poor owner of the following – 7 Wonders, Small World, Dominion and Fresco. The first three of these were all games which were on my radar, and, after consulting BGG in a nearby cafe we saw that Fresco lies only a whisker outside the top 100. It seemed worth a punt, and it was the first one we opened last night, and, I have to say, it was a punt well made. We have only played it three times, but my first impression is that this is a game well worthy of sitting inside the top 100. We found the balance of gameplay to be superb, every decision having some knock on effect on something else you were trying to achieve, and the theme and components are simply wonderful. I found playing Fresco to be a revelatory experience, akin to realising what a truly involving board game should be. When, post-holiday, I get round to ranking these new games, I am already convinced that Fresco will be only the second game in my collection to earn a 9, the other being Agricola, bringer of another revelatory experience.

We played the 2-player variant all three times, but at least we beat the 'ghost' player every time! Katie scored 83 to my 67 (and Leonardo's 59), first time around, and then I struck back 88 to Katie's 77 (Leonardo on 54). For our third foray we introduced the Portrait expansion and felt that it really added to the game. Here I won again, 98 to Katie's 86 (Leonardo on 69). If you like involved and thought-provoking gaming, then I really do recommend that you spare a thought for Fresco. Had it not been for BGG I would never have bought it, and now I can't wait to play it still more.

For now we are back at home and there is work to be done, but we hope to launch ourselves upon 7 Wonders, Small World and Dominion soon. Any pointers as to which to play first?
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I found Small World on BGG... I heartily recommend you launch into it...
 
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  • Posted Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:33 am
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Must say I had shivers of delight putting the components into their little trays. Thanks for the tip - looks like it's Small World next...
 
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wrote:
She 36 – Me 20
Me 34 – She 26
She 45 – Me 36 (getting the hang of it!)
Me 44 – She 27
She 40 – Me 29
Me 45 – She 33

I don't know if i'm doing it wrong, but in my 10 plays of SJ i've never seen anywhere near such high scores. We usually score around 25-30...
 
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High 30s for the winner are not unusual. Scores in the 40s are pretty high though
 
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Our 2p scores have been:
38-37
37-26
43-37

Note that in 3-4 player games, I have generally seen much lower scores:
32-31-31
30-29-26
41-36-26
36-34-30-30
29-24-22-18

If you're getting lower scores in a 2p game, it might just be because one or both of you is doing a build rush strategy, throwing down cheap buildings to end the game quickly. If you both choose to build fewer buildings, but with higher point values, your scores are likely to go up. You'll also want at least one 6-pointer (and ideally 2) to get the higher scores.

But of course comparing scores from one game to another doesn't really mean much. It's the relative scores of the people in a game that matter.
 
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peakhope wrote:
If you're getting lower scores in a 2p game, it might just be because one or both of you is doing a build rush strategy, throwing down cheap buildings to end the game quickly. If you both choose to build fewer buildings, but with higher point values, your scores are likely to go up. You'll also want at least one 6-pointer (and ideally 2) to get the higher scores.

Ah yeah, i do have build rush tendencies from Race for the Galaxy. And so my SJ opponents likely just do what they can to keep up on builds and we both end up with scores hovering around 25-30.
 
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Our high scores have mainly been from games with 6-pointers, and, from memory, my 45 involved a couple of 6-pointers and a palace. Our games so far have been pretty much the opposite of the build rush, apart from towards the end when one player tries to close things out.
 
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Okay now you've convinced me to give Fresco another try. We've had it out twice and it was a bust both times. Maybe I should give it a solo try to see what we're missing. I'll be interested to see what you think of Small World. I laughed at your description of shivers when unboxing it. I had a similar reaction. Sometimes I think that's what defines a true gamer.
 
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My experience of Fresco is only with the two player version, but the addition of the 'ghost' painter, controlled by each player alternately, made it an enthralling experience for me. I really fell for the 'I get to go first if I get up at 5, but then I can only afford two paints and they'll cost me 8 Thalers which are 4 VPs but if I can move Leonardo to the right I can maybe..unless..' and so on...
 
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