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New Game Round-up: Z-Man Releases in 2012, News on Santa Cruz and Mini-Carc Expansions & Tiny Hives

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• U.S. publisher Z-Man Games has announced what it's releasing the first half of 2012 and its release schedule looks as follows, starting with three titles that German publisher Lookout Games released at Spiel in October 2011:

January 2012
-----Agricola: NL-Deck
-----Agricola: World Championship Deck - 2011
-----Feudality

February 2012
-----Equilibrion

April 2012
-----Goa – This new edition of Rüdiger Dorn's Goa has been in the works for years, so it's surprising to see that the cover mentions only four new tiles and a play variant. Of course you generally don't want to mess too much with what works, so perhaps small changes are best.

June 2012
-----Battle Beyond Space – Frank Branham's quick-playing battle game has been in the works even longer than Goa, with the BGG page being created in 2005.

July 2012
-----Atlantis Rising – This game, in addition to BBS and Equilibrion, were both announced as 2011 releases from Z-Man (with Battle having soft announcements before that as well), and it's good to see these games moving forward under new Z-Man owner, Canadian publisher Filosofia Games. Given this relatively light schedule compared with years past from Z-Man, I think Filosofia is spending more time polishing releases to gleaming perfection, something already evident in the flashy look of the new edition of Shadow Hunters as well as the subtly changed, yet much more appealing cover on Battle Beyond Space. Here's the previous cover:


• Jay Tummelson has confirmed that Rio Grande Games will release the half-dozen new mini-expansions for Carcassonne that Hans im Glück is showing at the Nürnberg toy fair. Which half-dozen expansions, you ask? These:


Hans im Glück has a €3 price tag for each expansion, and you can see the list of expansions on the Nürnberg 2012 Preview here. Once Rio Grande has announced the English names, I (or someone) will create versions on the appropriate pages.

• In other Hans im Glück news, I've received a short description of the publisher's other early 2012 release: Santa Cruz from designer Marcel-André Casasola Merkle. Here it is:

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Santa Cruz is played in two independent rounds in which players build homes, churches and lighthouses on the island while also developing valuable resources. Players will need skill and foresight to colonize the islands and manage both movement and scoring cards. But beware, as sometime in the first round a volcano may erupt and the magma clear away the buildings already constructed.

Bad luck? Well, use your experience from the first round to build better in the second. You won't make the same mistakes a second time, will you? Concentrate on the further colonization of Santa Cruz and score while you can!

• Finally for this update, designer John Yianni is releasing Hive Pocket, with an expected release date in the U.S. of March 2012. (The game will be sold elsewhere, too, but that's the only date Yianni passed along.) This release contains everything in the base game, along with the Mosquito and Ladybug expansions, but in a tinier package. Not sure how tiny – clearly we need an actual mosquito and ladybug for scale...

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Nice to see a travel version of Hive. Unlike the other unwieldy version that you couldn't play anywhere, anytime due to having to bring it in a steamer trunk when transporting it... whistle

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Size estimate:

Most items I have kicking around that have the hang-tag punchout for putting the peg through, said punchout is about 1 inch across (I found a few that went up to 1.25) and 0.25 to 0.5 tall. Too variable.
HOWEVER... all 3 items, the little curved part of the cutout is exactly 0.25 inches across

Using the supremely scientific method of sticking a tape measure on my screen, that punchout is 3/16 across for the curved bit, for an estimate of "screen is 75% of full size".

Measuring the tiles from point to point gets exactly 0.5 inches. Adding 33%, puts them at 0.666 inches across point to point, 0.5833 flat to flat.

Full size Hive tiles are 1.75 inches across, point to point, 1.4375 (7/16) flat to flat.

So about 40% original size... less than half
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Size estimate: Most items I have kicking around that have the hang-tag punchout for putting the peg through, said punchout is about 1 inch across (I found a few that went up to 1.25) and 0.25 to 0.5 tall. Too variable.

HOWEVER... all 3 items, the little curved part of the cutout is exactly 0.25 inches across

Using the supremely scientific method of sticking a tape measure on my screen, that punchout is 3/16 across for the curved bit, for an estimate of "screen is 75% of full size".

Measuring the tiles from point to point gets exactly 0.5 inches. Adding 33%, puts them at 0.666 inches across point to point, 0.5833 flat to flat.

Full size Hive tiles are 1.75 inches across, point to point, 1.4375 (7/16) flat to flat.

So about 40% original size... less than half

Ah, but does it then follow that the combined weight of the travel Hive pieces will only be about 40% of their normal bakelite weight?

(Please support your work with the mathematical computations that got ya to that answer.)


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Wow, what timing! I'll be in the states when Equilibrion hits the shelves. Onirim is one of my favorite games and I can't wait to play the second game from the Oniverse.
And MAYBE I'll be able to find just enought room in my suitcase to bring back a travel-Version of Hive.
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ShreveportLAGamer wrote:
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So about 40% original size... less than half

Ah, but does it then follow that the combined weight of the travel Hive pieces will only be about 40% of their normal bakelite weight?

(Please support your work with the mathematical computations that got ya to that answer.)


I am unable to get an accurate measurement of the pocket tile thickness due to being angled. I will approximate.

Standard tiles are 0.4375 (7/16) in thick.
The ones on the image appear about 1/8 in thick, plus a third for scale, is 0.16666

1/6 divided by 7/16 = 0.381

Which is about... 40%
So using full size tiles and 40% across the board for all measurements.

Full Tile Area: 1.819
Full Tile Volume: 0.796

Mini Tile Area: 0.291
Mini Tile Volume: 0.051

Assuming consistent density for bakelite, the mini tiles appear to have a volume of merely 6.4%, and thus a matching weight.

YAY SQUARE CUBE LAW!

Now, if we take it at 50% across the board...
50% Area: 0.455
50% Volume: 0.099

This comes up at 12.4% of the volume

If we assume they're 40/50% across, but full thickness (for whatever reason, they LOOK full thickness in the image, though I'm certain they aren't)

40% Volume: 0.127
50% Volume: 0.199

That's 15.95% for 40, and 25% for 50%

No matter how you slice it, it looks like they'll weigh significantly less that 40% of an existing set.
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Annnnnnnnnnd... all that math was for naught.



And on here, Martijn gives us the exact measurements

http://boardgamegeek.com/image/1087494/martinus

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2 cm wide and some 6 or 7 mm thick


That's about 2/3rds the size and thickness of a full tile.

New math stands. Yay New Math.

/me drinks some New Coke
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Size comparison:


Weight comparison:
Hive Pocket:
Including bag and all 26 tiles = 200g
Hive Carbon:
Including bag and all 26 tiles = 600g

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Goa in April? Hopefully not an April Fool's joke.

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Agreed on Goa. Please not the April Fools shenanigans.

The Carc expansions look like fun, I'll probably wait til they are released as 2 larger expansions in the states though.

BBS looks exciting. That'll probably be the last game I buy for a while after my kid is born.

Loving Z-Man right now...
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I honestly can't think of a game which needed a travel version less than Hive. How is that not portable enough?
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I honestly can't think of a game which needed a travel version less than Hive. How is that not portable enough?

It's not the space, it's the weight.

This should go into the Hive FAQ probably.
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I'm a big Goa fan but I don't see myself getting the new version. Sounds like you could just play with the new rules.
 
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I wonder what happened to Wok Star, last time I asked ( afew months ago) Zev replied May 2012, but its not appearing on this list at all now.
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At first glance, I thought that Battle Beyond Space box shot was a promo poster for a new Roger Corman "space adventure" film. And when I say new, I mean entirely made of footage cut from prior Corman films.

Exactly where is this place that is beyond space?!
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I'm excited about the Carc minis. That's a great idea.
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What the heck! surprise A Z-man update and not a word about Vinhos?!
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Man, Hive Pocket looks pretty amazing... now I'm kind of pissed I bought the full-sized version a few months ago. Haven't even brought it to the table yet!

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I was hoping for a Wok Star update as well. Has anyone heard anything about it?
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Add me to the list of people that opened this round-up excited to hear an update on when Wok Star will finally be released by Z-Man... only to find that it's no longer on the list at all! That's a big disappointment. Here's hoping it was an oversight or something... I certainly hope it doesn't represent a change in direction from Filosofia.
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I prefer the larger Hive. Never thought much about the weight of them before. These smaller ones look like they have the potential to be easily lost (probably more to do with the way my kids play games).
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According to the Carcassonne stander, each of the small expansions contains one card of the Carcassonne: Die Kornkreise expansion.
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Like the idea of a smaller hive, but disappointed that there is no flat surface to play it on, which would have been great for travelling.
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"battle beyond space".......staring Boss Nass
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Add me to the list of people that opened this round-up excited to hear an update on when Wok Star will finally be released by Z-Man... only to find that it's no longer on the list at all! That's a big disappointment. Here's hoping it was an oversight or something... I certainly hope it doesn't represent a change in direction from Filosofia.


I imagine it follows suit. They are spending more time cleaning up designs and implementations for better product. Wok Star definitely had some room for improvement.
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I highly doubt those Agricola card expansions will be out January... mid February before we see them at the earliest.
 
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palmerkun wrote:
ShreveportLAGamer wrote:
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So about 40% original size... less than half

Ah, but does it then follow that the combined weight of the travel Hive pieces will only be about 40% of their normal bakelite weight?

(Please support your work with the mathematical computations that got ya to that answer.)


I am unable to get an accurate measurement of the pocket tile thickness due to being angled. I will approximate.

Standard tiles are 0.4375 (7/16) in thick.
The ones on the image appear about 1/8 in thick, plus a third for scale, is 0.16666

1/6 divided by 7/16 = 0.381

Which is about... 40%
So using full size tiles and 40% across the board for all measurements.

Full Tile Area: 1.819
Full Tile Volume: 0.796

Mini Tile Area: 0.291
Mini Tile Volume: 0.051

Assuming consistent density for bakelite, the mini tiles appear to have a volume of merely 6.4%, and thus a matching weight.

YAY SQUARE CUBE LAW!

Now, if we take it at 50% across the board...
50% Area: 0.455
50% Volume: 0.099

This comes up at 12.4% of the volume

If we assume they're 40/50% across, but full thickness (for whatever reason, they LOOK full thickness in the image, though I'm certain they aren't)

40% Volume: 0.127
50% Volume: 0.199

That's 15.95% for 40, and 25% for 50%

No matter how you slice it, it looks like they'll weigh significantly less that 40% of an existing set.
Thumbed for incredible effort! Well done!
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I wonder what happened to Wok Star, last time I asked ( afew months ago) Zev replied May 2012, but its not appearing on this list at all now.


Seriously, I've been wishing for that game for over a year already.
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I wonder what happened to Wok Star, last time I asked ( afew months ago) Zev replied May 2012, but its not appearing on this list at all now.


Seriously, I've been wishing for that game for over a year already.


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No news on Vinhos cry
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Looking at the display box for the Carc Minis... it looks like each mini box comes with one tile for the Corn Circles. Considering that's getting released as a full-sized expansion (with the plague and the tunnels) in the US, I wonder if there's going to be another mini-expansion that takes its place in a US release...
 
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Looking forward to this, as I am a huge fan of his Verräter and Meuterer role selection games.
 
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This description from the Mini-Carc descriptions really turned me off:

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In Carcassonne: Die Fluggeräte, a small expansion for Carcassonne, planes fly meeples to different tiles – but where they will land is still unknown! More details when possible...


But, looking at the image, it looks like they have some kind of Da-Vinci-inspired flying-"wings" attached to their backs, so that makes me a little more interested Just a little though... the only mini one that looks like a must-buy for me is the ferry one, I love the river expansions.
 
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What the heck! surprise A Z-man update and not a word about Vinhos?!


Man am I ever happy that I ordered mine from a store in Austria through Amazon.com. Have had mine now since just before Christmas.
 
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Still no news for Merchants & Marauders expansions...

There're many games who won awards that has deserved expansions. Why not the thematic game Merchants & Marauders shouldn't have.
 
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Martin Bouchard at Filosofia Editions has passed along news that the Z-Man Games edition of Vinhos will be released in March 2012.

Ted Cheatham's Aviation Tycoon, which has been on and off the Z-Man release calendar for years, is now permanently off.

As for Wok Star and other titles previously on the Z-Man schedule, such as Scorched Earth, Bouchard said that he'd provide details at a later date. Keep hope alive!
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Still no news for Merchants & Marauders expansions...

There're many games who won awards that has deserved expansions. Why not the thematic game Merchants & Marauders shouldn't have.


Christian has asked for a lot of feedback on various issues including missions, ships, rumors, etc...so I'd bet hes already working and maybe pretty far along with the expansion or at least we can hope so.
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In case anyone has not noticed, there are now entries and descriptions for all the carc minis.

Good news:
They're larger than I had anticipated, 8 tiles plus bits.

Bad news:
The Ferries has nothing to do with rivers, they introduce "lake tiles" for this.

After reading the descriptions, the only one that sounds interesting to me is the Fliers. Maybe Robber.
 
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  • Posted Fri Feb 3, 2012 1:36 pm
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Filipe Cunha
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Gen Four Two wrote:

Size comparison:


Weight comparison:
Hive Pocket:
Including bag and all 26 tiles = 200g
Hive Carbon:
Including bag and all 26 tiles = 600g



Curiosity... why is Carbon so much heavier than the regular one? (I've never seen a Hive Carbon in person)

EDIT.: Nevermind... I thought it was comparing the regular one weight with carbon... duh.
 
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  • Edited Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:57 am
  • Posted Tue Feb 7, 2012 4:56 am
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