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Craig Bartell
United States
Overland Park
Kansas
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10
Jun 2010
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simon craddock
England
widnes
cheshire
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10
Jan 2010
Played twice at Chattanooga.Would have happily spent the entire weekend playing just this game.Lots of different options all of which seem like they could work.
2010-01-27
Owned
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Breno K.
Brazil
Brasília
Distrito Federal
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10
Mar 2011
It truly is a wonder of financial manipulations. I wouldn't play this with less than a dozen or so 18xx matches under my belt, and even so,..

Fantastic.
2011-07-10
Owned
Bill Byrd
United States
Mt Prospect
Illinois
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Jun 2010
This game seems to fill two gaps in my 18xx collection. First it is a longish game, advertised to clock in at 6 hours. Second it has a much deeper financial structure than any 18xx variant I've seen (or even heard of). The rules are well written, which is not always the case in the 18xx world.

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After 4 full plays now this title has firmly planted itself as my favorite 18xx game.

Short selling adds a very nice tension to the already complex financial situation. In my latest game there were very few shorts, but each one had significant impact.

By the way my win-loss record is 0-4.

Can't wait to play it again!

UPDATE:
I now have a dozen or more full plays of this game (and finally a few wins) and I find that it is now the ONLY game I really want to play. It's a shame that I rarely find enough players with sufficient available time.

That said, I don't think this game is for everybody. It can be brutally cut-throat and mistakes can be punished most harshly, sometimes even ending in bankruptcy. This game forces you to stay alert.

1817 also forces veteran 18xx players to fundamentally rethink the way they operate companies. Some of my friends have objected mildly to be treated as utter newbies, until they see how short-selling can be used to awesome effect when a director runs up his share price as per usual practice in other 18xx titles.
2012-01-09
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John Elbl
United States
Boston
Massachusetts
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Jan 2012
I have played 1817 around 10 times during the play-testing kit process with the Chicago Games-Plus group. It has now become my favorite 18xx, and definite contender for personal best game. The additional elements of open starting, short selling, merging / converting are implemented very well. NOTE: final play rules version has 5 short sell certificates. I play only with 10 short sell certificates of each company. The group I play with is brutal (honed the kill-shot and suggested the 'fix' to it that are in final rules). There are definitely tactics to avoid a massive short sell from 'hurting'. Realistically, the traditional valuation of companies needs a new 1817 calculus, which improves the game after a 2-3 game learning curve. The realization easily spreads to other 18xx games and makes valuations there much faster as well.
2012-01-07
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Nicolai Claus Ravn
Denmark
Copenhagen
Hvidovre
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May 2011
Prototype copy..

Once you go 1817, you don't go back..
2011-08-24
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Juho Snellman
Switzerland
Zurich
Zurich
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Jan 2015
One of my favorite 18xx games, thanks to the wide variety of different shenanigans that are possible. I wonder a bit about how large the strategic space really is (i.e. how much of the game is simply about maneuvering for share density in the final rounds by spending the early game artificially pumping up 2- or 5-share companies with friendly acquisitions).

But no matter what, my first play of 1817 is one of my most memorable gaming moments. A massive economic crisis caused by the combined greed of all players wiped out 2 out of 5 players (the only experienced ones) and left one more (me) crippled. Observing the behavior changes as various players realized that the shit was about to hit the fan was just awesome.
2013-11-03
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Eirik Blodoks
Italy
Romagna - RA
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Jun 2014
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Walter E. Kurtz
United States
Austin
Texas
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10
Jul 2012
Absolutely love this 18xx. A little chrome-y with loans, shorting of stock, and various merger types. However, the chrome works. A very dynamic game. Players must take care not to overpay for the private companies.
2012-07-06
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Ho hd
Malaysia
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18xx, Go and Puerto Rico Rocks!!!
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10
Dec 2011
This game is amazing. It has what I sought after in an 18xx game. My favourite of all time. The rules are simple but the possibilities are so enormous.

The things I like about 18xx games are all here:

1. Partial capitlization of companies.
2. A fierce stock market but does not go crazy when you sell shares (share price only drops if it remained in the open market at the end of the stock round - I really like this)
3. A deceptively simple but very fierce map.
4. The conversions, mergers, acquisitions - wow!! every decision matters and it is not easy to decide.
5. Loans with interest rates determined by supply and demand - adds such a great layer of possibility to the game.
6. Shorting mechanism - initially this was all the hype but we realize that this mechanism's role is primarily to keep companies honest.

It is a wonderful game!
2012-02-16
Owned
Aigar Alaveer
Estonia
Tallinn
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10
Mar 2012
PnP Deepthought prototype version. Pure awesomeness.
2012-02-04
Owned
Steven Canning
United States
Seattle
Washington
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10
Jul 2015
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Jimmy Okolica
United States
Washington Township
Ohio
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Apr 2015
There's a reason this game is named after the opening of the NY Stock Exchange. It's a nasty game that is far more concerned with making money than running railroads. Open as many as you can, rape them and then pass them on. Oh, and don't forget to rape other's people's companies while trying to protect yourself from being raped. Oh, did I mention this is a mean and nasty game?
2013-07-05
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Eric Flood
United States
San Francisco
California
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Jan 2015
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Eugene van der Pijll
Netherlands
Den Haag
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10
Apr 2015
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Lin yingzhou
China
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10
Oct 2012
Owned
Ari
United States
San Francisco
California
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La vie est un jeu
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Panem et Circenses
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10
Nov 2012
This game is pure free market goodness. The shorting aspect, the acquisitions, and the liquidations turn a regular game of 18xx into something really special. This will likely, over time, become my favorite game. I just hope it gets to the table enough.
2012-11-25
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Aapo Juusti
Finland
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Dec 2012
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Zhang Yu
China
Shanghai
Shanghai
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10
Dec 2012
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Walt Collins
United States
Harleysville
Pennsylvania
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10
Mar 2013
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Ryan Bates
United States
Illinois
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Aug 2013
Owned
Ken Soo
United States
Plano
Texas
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10
Jun 2014
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Tai-Lung Li
United States
sunnyvale
CA
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10
Jun 2014
Owned
Brett Lentz
United States
Nashua
New Hampshire
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May 2015
My current favorite 18xx. Short sales, a neat twist on private companies, interesting tile/token placement. It's pretty great.
2015-02-09
Owned
David Ells
United States
Baltimore
Maryland
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Here the truceless armies yet / Trample, rolled in blood and sweat; / They kill and kill and never die; / And I think that each is I. // None will part us, none undo / The knot that makes one flesh of two, /
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Sick with hatred, sick with pain, / Strangling -- When shall we be slain? // When shall I be dead and rid / Of the wrong my father did? / How long, how long, till spade and hearse / Puts to sleep my mother's curse?
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10
Aug 2014
+ version via All-Aboard Games!
2014-08-15
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Marc Voyer
Canada
Calgary
Alberta
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10
Oct 2014
Favourite recent 18xx I've played to date. Ridiculous amount of strategy options. Stock market feels real. Every time I think the game is broken or unbalanced, I turn out to be wrong, because I didn't experience it enough. Can't stop playing...
2014-11-21
Owned
David Ells
United States
Baltimore
Maryland
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Here the truceless armies yet / Trample, rolled in blood and sweat; / They kill and kill and never die; / And I think that each is I. // None will part us, none undo / The knot that makes one flesh of two, /
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Sick with hatred, sick with pain, / Strangling -- When shall we be slain? // When shall I be dead and rid / Of the wrong my father did? / How long, how long, till spade and hearse / Puts to sleep my mother's curse?
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Dec 2014
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Jonathan Harrison
United States
Fisher
Illinois
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So long ...
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... and thanks for all the fish.
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9.8
Jan 2015
Waiting to be mailed—Deep Thought.
2014-06-12
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Benson Propst
United States
Michigan
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9.7
Jun 2015
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[3.2.2015] - Played once. Showed zero loan discipline. Went from a $7xx net worth to $3xx in one stock round. Went Bankrupt by MA3.1 Brain was tied in knots. Unlike any other 18xx game I've played so far. I love the depth and enigmatic nature of the financial side of this game. Crazy awesome game design for not only an 18xx game, but also for any game out there. If you're looking for a truly satisfying economic, stock market/stock manipulation, share holding game, this one is King.
2015-06-15
Owned
Shawn Fox
United States
Richardson
Texas
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9.5
Feb 2015
Owned
Burster of Bubbles, Destroyer of Dreams.
United States
Sunnyvale
California
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Just imagine the red offboard up here. I'll create it Real Soon Now...
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Yes, I know a proper 18XX tile should have a tile number.
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9.3
Oct 2012
Owned
Ludwig Seitz
Sweden
Lund
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Sep 2013
This is at least a 7, I'm being careful putting a higher rating, since I felt the board was being congested by numerous station way to fast, which made the game drag. I'll update after more plays.

Update: I really like the fresh ideas this game brings to my 18xx table, the variable interest loans, the acquisition rules, the infinite 2 trains and the 2+ trains. The stock market movement rules. Only the short-selling has not been used very much, yet ...

Update: Definitely not a drag if played right. However shorting doesn't seem viable if the players are cautious and have several companies.
2015-03-23
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Mark G.
United States
Holland
Michigan
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Sep 2014
wow, so many levers to pull . . . new ways to hurt one's opponents and ways to hurt oneself. I haven't figured out how to do more of the former and less of the latter yet.

Okay, I dropped my rating on this one 1 point. I'm having mixed feelings about it. I like the shorting mechanic, but it can also lead to complete madness. Which just feels like a mess. I still think it's a great game. I probably just need to learn how to play it better in order to appreciate it fully.

Update: The more I play this, the more I like it. I've still not mastered it by any stretch, but I'm enjoying it.
2015-06-14
Owned
Christopher Incao
United States
Doylestown
Pennsylvania
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May 2013
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Luís Evangelista
Portugal
Santa Iria Azoia
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9
Mar 2013
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Stephane Brochu
Canada
Outremont
Quebec
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9
Mar 2013
Perhaps one of my favorite 18XX, with a heavy emphasis on the stock market end of things over the track laying/train running. Lots of possibilities for player screwage but while short selling might sound like a good idea, you need to be really careful as to when you do this. Lots still to learn before i can play this at the highest level, but really looking forward to playing again.
2013-03-10
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Takashi Hatta
Japan
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Jun 2013
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Jul 2015
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Mel Nicholson
United States
Pacifica
California (CA)
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9
Jun 2015
Owned
Clivio Fenili
Italy
Villa Verucchio RN
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8.75
Jun 2013
Owned
J C Lawrence
United States
Campbell
California
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8.5
Jan 2014
Appears uncontested as the single most interesting, innovative and influential 18xx game to be issued since the release of 1830 in 1886.

Truly, a considerable achievement.
2015-06-18
Owned
Joe Masinter
United States
San Francisco
California
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8.5
Nov 2013
many decisions to make, each one crucial and unforgiving. hell of a game
2014-01-10
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Mike Bazynski
Poland
warsaw
mazowieckie
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Feb 2015
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Morgan Dontanville
United States
Charlottesville
Virginia
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Plate of Shrimp.
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Here we are folks, the dream we all dream of.
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8
Dec 2012
Wow! This system turns everything you knew about 18xx games on its head. There are so many major changes to the system that you can't just take it for granted that you are going to be able to sit down and get this right off the bat. It takes a learning game just to understand how everything works together. Very nuanced. Lots of cool stuff. This is good for the 18xx'er that wanted to justify a new purchase, but knew that it wasn't going to be worth it to just get yet another version of the same game.
2012-12-09
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Scott Agius
United Kingdom
Brentford
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Jan 2014
Highly focused stock manipulation game with short selling, ultimately I think the short selling makes or breaks the game for those involved, either destroying the shorted company and owning player with profits all round for the others or the company ends up surviving, paying out 60% to the president and over 100% to the company and they go on to win easily. Would be willing to play more as it has a lot of nice subtleties to explore but it seems a bit too long for something that can easily get out of control, I would rather play 1880.
2012-01-17
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Ron
Austria
Vienna
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ASL ... yes, this is my Desert Island Game. If I have to give up all my 3000+ games and only allowed to keep one, this would be it. This bloody game stood the test of time. Around for more than 25 years - simply the best.
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8
Nov 2014
Owned
Bien HBB
United States
Downingtown
Pennsylvania
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8
Aug 2012
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Oliver Dräger
Germany
Iserlohn
NRW
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8
Nov 2012
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James D

Indiana
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Jun 2014
Owned
Andrew Browne
Canada
Edmonton
Alberta
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Dec 2014
Owned

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