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Craig Bartell
United States
Overland Park
Kansas
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10
Jun 2010
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simon craddock
England
widnes
cheshire
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10
Jan 2010
Played twice at Chattanooga.Would have happily spent the entire weekend playing just this game.Lots of different options all of which seem like they could work.
2010-01-27
Owned
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David Fair
United States
Damascus
MD
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Or maybe PowerGrid?
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Yeah, that's me. Handsome devil, I know.
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10
Dec 2012
NE US - More than any other 18xx title, this game will challenge your ability to plan, to manage risk, and to prevent yourself from being screwed over.

DeepThoughtGames - #3812
2012-12-16
Preordered
David Aber
United States
Shawnee
Kansas
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10
Mar 2010
Breno K.
Brazil
Brasília
Distrito Federal
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10
Mar 2011
It truly is a wonder of financial manipulations. I wouldn't play this with less than a dozen or so 18xx matches under my belt, and even so,..

Fantastic.
2011-07-10
Owned
Bill Byrd
United States
Mt Prospect
Illinois
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Jun 2010
This game seems to fill two gaps in my 18xx collection. First it is a longish game, advertised to clock in at 6 hours. Second it has a much deeper financial structure than any 18xx variant I've seen (or even heard of). The rules are well written, which is not always the case in the 18xx world.

UPDATE:
After 4 full plays now this title has firmly planted itself as my favorite 18xx game.

Short selling adds a very nice tension to the already complex financial situation. In my latest game there were very few shorts, but each one had significant impact.

By the way my win-loss record is 0-4.

Can't wait to play it again!

UPDATE:
I now have a dozen or more full plays of this game (and finally a few wins) and I find that it is now the ONLY game I really want to play. It's a shame that I rarely find enough players with sufficient available time.

That said, I don't think this game is for everybody. It can be brutally cut-throat and mistakes can be punished most harshly, sometimes even ending in bankruptcy. This game forces you to stay alert.

1817 also forces veteran 18xx players to fundamentally rethink the way they operate companies. Some of my friends have objected mildly to be treated as utter newbies, until they see how short-selling can be used to awesome effect when a director runs up his share price as per usual practice in other 18xx titles.
2012-01-09
Owned
John Elbl
United States
Boston
Massachusetts
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10
Jan 2012
I have played 1817 around 10 times during the play-testing kit process with the Chicago Games-Plus group. It has now become my favorite 18xx, and definite contender for personal best game. The additional elements of open starting, short selling, merging / converting are implemented very well. NOTE: final play rules version has 5 short sell certificates. I play only with 10 short sell certificates of each company. The group I play with is brutal (honed the kill-shot and suggested the 'fix' to it that are in final rules). There are definitely tactics to avoid a massive short sell from 'hurting'. Realistically, the traditional valuation of companies needs a new 1817 calculus, which improves the game after a 2-3 game learning curve. The realization easily spreads to other 18xx games and makes valuations there much faster as well.
2012-01-07
Owned
Nicolai Claus Ravn
Denmark
Copenhagen
Hvidovre
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10
May 2011
Prototype copy..

Once you go 1817, you don't go back..
2011-08-24
Owned
Juho Snellman
Switzerland
Zurich
Zurich
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Jan 2015
One of my favorite 18xx games, thanks to the wide variety of different shenanigans that are possible. I wonder a bit about how large the strategic space really is (i.e. how much of the game is simply about maneuvering for share density in the final rounds by spending the early game artificially pumping up 2- or 5-share companies with friendly acquisitions).

But no matter what, my first play of 1817 is one of my most memorable gaming moments. A massive economic crisis caused by the combined greed of all players wiped out 2 out of 5 players (the only experienced ones) and left one more (me) crippled. Observing the behavior changes as various players realized that the shit was about to hit the fan was just awesome.
2013-11-03
Owned
Eirik Blodoks
Italy
Romagna - RA
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10
Jun 2014
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Walter E. Kurtz
United States
Austin
Texas
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10
Jul 2012
Absolutely love this 18xx. A little chrome-y with loans, shorting of stock, and various merger types. However, the chrome works. A very dynamic game. Players must take care not to overpay for the private companies.
2012-07-06
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Ho hd
Malaysia
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18xx, Go and Puerto Rico Rocks!!!
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10
Dec 2011
This game is amazing. It has what I sought after in an 18xx game. My favourite of all time. The rules are simple but the possibilities are so enormous.

The things I like about 18xx games are all here:

1. Partial capitlization of companies.
2. A fierce stock market but does not go crazy when you sell shares (share price only drops if it remained in the open market at the end of the stock round - I really like this)
3. A deceptively simple but very fierce map.
4. The conversions, mergers, acquisitions - wow!! every decision matters and it is not easy to decide.
5. Loans with interest rates determined by supply and demand - adds such a great layer of possibility to the game.
6. Shorting mechanism - initially this was all the hype but we realize that this mechanism's role is primarily to keep companies honest.

It is a wonderful game!
2012-02-16
Owned
Andreas Jõesaar
Estonia
Tallinn
Harjumaa
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10
Feb 2012
Aigar Alaveer
Estonia
Tallinn
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Mar 2012
PnP Deepthought prototype version. Pure awesomeness.
2012-02-04
Owned
Mikaela Kumlander
Finland
Helsinki
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10
Mar 2012
Love everything about it. Simply amazing. Quite possibly my favorite 18xx so far - it's going to take a lot to top this one!
2012-12-27
Mr Mojo Rising
Finland
Helsinki
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10
Mar 2012
Jimmy Okolica
United States
Washington Township
Ohio
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10
Apr 2015
There's a reason this game is named after the opening of the NY Stock Exchange. It's a nasty game that is far more concerned with making money than running railroads. Open as many as you can, rape them and then pass them on. Oh, and don't forget to rape other's people's companies while trying to protect yourself from being raped. Oh, did I mention this is a mean and nasty game?
2013-07-05
Owned
Eric Flood
United States
San Francisco
California
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10
Jan 2015
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Eugene van der Pijll
Netherlands
Den Haag
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10
Apr 2015
Owned
Lin yingzhou
China
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10
Oct 2012
Owned
Ari
United States
San Francisco
California
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10
Nov 2012
This game is pure free market goodness. The shorting aspect, the acquisitions, and the liquidations turn a regular game of 18xx into something really special. This will likely, over time, become my favorite game. I just hope it gets to the table enough.
2012-11-25
Owned
Aapo Juusti
Finland
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10
Dec 2012
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Captain Planet
Canada
Burnaby
BC
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10
Sep 2014
North East USA:
This may become one of my favorite 18xx titles. 1830 is my all time favorite right now, but there are so many things in that game that are added or changed from how the world works in order for the game to work properly. 1817, however, has the ebb and flow of reality flowing through the rhythm of the game. I will have to play this one a few more times before I actually let it ascend to a ten.

Update: After a second play: I really like this game, but a troubling thing occurred in the game we last played. There was a company that was hitting Chicago to New York with a four train, had a very good share price, and had enough money to buy a permanent train in the company. The president only owned one company and could not screw with the money or trains. One player decided that he wanted to try shorting his share. If he was the only player to short, he would have lost big, but once the "blood was in the water", every other player decided to short or sell all of their shares. The result, a company that should have been bought out and run the rest of the game ended up in receivership in one turn. I am still uncertain as to whether this is the optimal play, but the effect is devastating to the player.
2013-11-13
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Zhang Yu
China
Shanghai
Shanghai
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10
Dec 2012
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Jeff Behan
United States
Bettendorf
Iowa
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Jan 2013
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