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18XX Quickstart Packages
Alan Winterrowd
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I have recently become interested in acquiring and playing some of the 18XX games, but I have a problem. No one in this area, that I have found, plays them. This puts me in the position of trying to teach games, that I am pretty new at, to others.

I know that in my first game, we began buying and bidding on privates, and I had absolutely no clue what they did, so figuring out how much they were worth was a non-starter.

What I would like to get are some game startups, for various games, for various numbers of players. These could be from actual games with experienced players, or an experienced players opinion on what would be a balanced starting point for new players. I would like for these to be at the point at which the privates have been purchased, and the each player has purchased the starting share of a company, so that the pars have been set. This would allow me to start the game in the stock round, with the players finishing out the stock round to float their companies, then heading into op rounds.

Feel free to add new games, if you have a good set up position for them. If I can find players, I will look to buy new games!
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Posted On: 2007-04-27 10:22:56
Edited On: 2007-05-04 07:20:45

1. 18AL [Average Rating:7.62 Unranked]
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This would be a perfect start, as I have a print and play copy, have played a simplified version of the game, and am in a 3 player PBeM currently. It is a shorter game, which also makes it an easier sell.
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Posted On: 2007-04-27 10:17:33
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This is the start from the PBeM that I am in. I will not claim that it is a great start, especially as Player 2 (me) is very inexperienced. I have it here for an example of what I am interested in.

Player 1: $320 Cash, 2 shares WRA, par $60, S&N AL, ND Yards

Player 2: $355 Cash, 2 Shares M&O, par $75, Tuscumbia, B&S LC

Player 3: $345 Cash, 2 Shares L&N, par $75, M&C, Stock priority

L&N is on top of M&O for move priority
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I'm in this game also and the auction ended nearly before it started. I'm used to considerably more money being spent in the private auction, limiting the values at which you can start the first companies.
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For new players, quick-ending auctions are probably best, as that leaves more money in hand. I also suggest limiting to 3 players allowing each to control two companies. 18AL with four and five players is very cutthroat. Here are some suggested quick starts:

Quick Start A

This is very balanced, as each player has $110 or $120 of companies to loot. It also promotes early interaction, as all three companies have incentives to build toward the middle.

Auction
Player 1: Bid $45 S&N AL
Player 2: Bid $105 M&C
Player 3: Bid $125 ND Yards
Player 1: Bid $75 B&S LC
Player 2: Buy Tuscumbia $20 (remaining privates sold automatically)

Player 1: [600] S&N AL $45, B&S LC $75 [480]
Player 2: [600] Tuscumbia $20, M&C $105 [475]
Player 3: [600] ND Yards $125 [475]

Stock Round
Player 3: [475] Par L&N $75, buy president's certificate $150 [325]
Player 1: [480] Par WRA $75, buy president's certificate $150 [330]
Player 2: [475] Par ABC $75, buy president's certificate $150 [325]

Quick Start B

This one isn't as obviously balanced, though I'd be happy to play any of the sides, each of which has strengths/weaknesses. It lets everyone play in their own sandbox at the beginning of the game.

Auction
Player 1: Bid $45 S&N AL
Player 2: Bid $105 M&C
Player 3: Bid $75 B&S LC
Player 1: Buy Tuscumbia $20 (S&N AL, M&C, B&S LC sold automatically)
Player 2: Buy ND $120

Player 1: [600] Tuscumbia $20, S&N AL $45 [535]
Player 2: [600] M&C $105, ND $120 [375]
Player 3: [600] B&S LC $75 [525]

Stock Round
Player 3: [525] Par WRA $60, buy president's certificate $120 [405]
Player 1: [535] Par TAG $75, buy president's certificate $150 [385]
Player 2: [375] Par M&O $60, buy president's certificate $120 [255]
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Alan Winterrowd
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Thanks, Chris! This is exactly what I was looking for.

I will print these off and put them with the game.
2. 18GA [Average Rating:7.58 Unranked]
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Another shorter game, which I have a print and play version of (or will have once I finish cutting this one out.
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Posted On: 2007-04-27 10:18:39
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3. 1870 [Average Rating:7.46 Unranked]
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I have played this one, and own a copy. Not my first choice for a beginner player, although it was my first 18xx game.
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Posted On: 2007-04-27 10:19:46
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This game uses the 'standard' 18xx bidding system. There are 5 privates and the SLSF president's share. I will go through them from highest to lowest.

Missouri-Kansas-Texas: This company comes with a Katy share and is worth alot. Depending on the number of players, it can be worth over $200. Note: you need enough $ left over to open a company in a reasonable timeframe so don't spend too much if you go after this company.

SLSF President's share: $140-145. Good players will force you to buy additional shares to keep this.

Gulf Shipping: Can easily go over $100. Adds $20 to the value of a city.

Southern Cattle: This is worth $60-80. Adds $10 to the value of a city.

Miss Bridge: This is worth $50-70. Allows building across the Miss and extra tile lay.

TGRSC: Worth $20. Buy this when you have a advantage in the bidding. For example, you have the lone bid on a company and all the other companies (except the SLSF) have multiple bids. Alternately if you have nothing better to do, then buying this is good to. But look at your opponents positions first.
4. 18Scan [Average Rating:7.53 Unranked]
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I have ordered this one, but am not sure how long before it will be shipped.
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Posted On: 2007-04-27 10:20:33
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I am truly enamoured with this game and I have some distinct opinions on it as well. The game is best with 3 players. With that in mind: in the initial auction, never let a player gain 2 Minor companies. Having 2 minor companies gives that player too much early cash which is key to gaining an advantage in 18xx.

I prefer M2 & M3 because unless you score #1 with the DSB, whoever owns the DSB should select against M1 in their tile placement. Any cross pollenation between different players owning M1 and DSB is playing "mamsy-pamsy," lets all hug game play.

Note: the "mamsy-pamsy" is a direct quote from the designer David Hecht, when we recently enjoyed gaming together in Virginia.
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Did I really say "mamsy-pamsy"? It's not really one of my phrases..."namby-pamby", perhaps? And for this particular situation, I'd probably say "care-bear", anyhow...
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I have heard a lot of good things about this game, so I am looking forward to getting it.
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barzai wrote:
Did I really say "mamsy-pamsy"? It's not really one of my phrases..."namby-pamby", perhaps? And for this particular situation, I'd probably say "care-bear", anyhow...


Now that's a direct quote from the designer... I apologize for the fuzziness of my recollection.

In my book "namby-pamby," "care-bear," and "namsy-pamsy" all convey the idea that "playing nice" is not always in your best interest.