I've always viewed this game as a Euro. The old version is definitely American in style, but this version seemed too refined.

This is a good title to demonstrate the unsuitability of the a-tr-- term. The game came from Italy, for Pete's sake.

It's really a much more streamlined and playable game now.

This is sooooo much better than Scotland Yard

If you make this game even more of an AT game, you could do the exact opposite and create different ground force units (Soldier, Combat vehicle, Mech, etc.) which would at least make the dice throwing relevant for ground combat and make it mirror the space battles more.

I figured this would make the list, just based on reputation. I am dying to try this sometime when I've got a day to kill.

If you make this game even more of an AT game, you could do the exact opposite and create different ground force units (Soldier, Combat vehicle, Mech, etc.) which would at least make the dice throwing relevant for ground combat and make it mirror the space battles more.

For the light AT-version, again: Nexus Ops

While this game came out after the Ameritrash debates, the mechanisms seem so fantastically Euro that I tend to clump it with games like Imperial or Liberte. It's rife with resource and hand management, conflict is resolved via bidding, etc. In fact it has one of the coolest bidding mechanisms since the combat wheels in Dune.

I believe that this is a polished great wargame. Nothing to do with Ameritrash genre. Let's not call every game with plastic miniatures and heavy theme Ameritrash.

this is much more AT than wargame, mostly in that it is more like an action packed war movie than a realistic simulation.

keep in mind the fact that there is supposedly a scenario book coming out featuring designs from the likes of berg, simonitch and jason matthews. that should establish some wargame cred!!

Not sure this one counts as heavy enough. I don't remember it being very hard at all.