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The Holy Grails of Collecting
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I have the collector's bug. I admit it... I'm weak. Here's a list of collecting "Holy Grails" that I have had over the years that I've been lucky enough to find. Feel free to add your "grails" to the list.
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1. Board Game: Ave Caesar [Average Rating:6.67 Overall Rank:616]
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Imported this from Sweden from my buddy Carl. I sent him an unopened copy of Starfarers of Catan. Nice trade. Apparently there's tons of Ave Caesar in Sweden.
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Sweden isn't the only country where this game is very easy to get. I bought my own copy from here in Finland for about 4US$. I didn't even realize that Ave Caesar is a collector's item until I browsed through the BGG's Marketplace the other day
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I got my copy of Q-Jet from topdecker here on the Geek, which is the same game as Ave Caesar, just rethemed. It's a sweet little game!
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Oct, 2006. Sniped for a tad over $26.00 (+$15.00 s/h) from Germany. Original Ravensburger.

Then I started looking through the files here on BGG, and realized that I could print & play my own copy...then I did.
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Not so much of a grail anymore, as it has been reprinted as Q-Jet in Japan, and reprinted by Cafe Games in the US.
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NO LONGER A GRAIL GAME (reprint)

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2. Board Game: Elfenroads [Average Rating:7.18 Overall Rank:1371]
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Got this through a BoardGameGeek trade.... finally. I'd been looking for this one for years since I read about it on RGB.
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This was the last of the White Wind games that I needed to finish my set. From all accounts, it was the best one of the series (but I still prefer Santa Fe), and I couldn't find one. I finally won an auction (first and only one that I have seen) for (mumble, mumble) dollars. Let's just say that it's my most expensive one yet. And to add insult to (financial) injury, Elfengold came out before I tried the White Wind copy. So I still haven't played Elfenroads!

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Isn't this the same as Rio Grande's King of the Elves?
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  • Posted Wed Apr 14, 2004 7:03 pm
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No this is a different game. Even different than the reprint of Elfenland by Amigo.
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Don't got it.
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  • Posted Mon Apr 26, 2004 5:30 am
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I got about the last unused copy in the world (from Funagain, no less, after they got hold of some bankrupt stock). Its only problem is it takes 1 hour per player. But it's worth it! The board is also rather endearing since it contains a typo. It's also a much tougher layout than the Elfenland/Elfengold combo.

I just don't get to play it enough.
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3. Board Game: PitchCar Extension [Average Rating:7.56 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.56 Unranked]
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Still searching for this grail.
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Did this go out of print? I bought it at my local game store here in Portland, OR about 2 years ago.
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Bought it when it was cheap and in-print. I still prefer playing without the jump. I think it makes for a better overall race. With the jump, inevitably a couple people just cannot make it, and get stuck. No fun.
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I could not find Carabande, so I bought Pitch Car, and I loved it...
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It was the high cost of the Action Set that made me decide to buy PitchCar instead of Carabande. I have played both Carabande and PitchCar and the only regret I have in picking PitchCar is absence of the chicanes found in the Action Set (which I prefer to the chicanes found in the first PitchCar extension). I wish that Ferti would release a PitchCar extension that has the x and y chicanes. I am almost to the "make them myself" stage of things... if I was more sure of my dremel skills I would have already made an attempt to make them.
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got this one too. with base game. game is so much liked by my nephew that I had to buy him a copy as well.

I wouldn't buy the first expansion now. I played a game with both base sets and thought it was much better than with the expansion. the jump is fun at first but almost impossible to execute well three times in a row.
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4. Board Game: Talisman [Average Rating:6.50 Overall Rank:987]
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Had a copy of the 3rd edition of Talisman and all the expansions which was destroyed by a vindictive ex-girlfriend. Found the 2nd edition (which I enjoy more) on Ebay.
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Sorry about the ex-girlfriend thing. It's the downside of having a collection that it can be used against you like that. I hope she didn't destroy anything else.
2nd edition Talisman was a grail for me, too. I got one in shrinkwrap on eBay for a little under $100.
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Challenge to Grailhood? New version scheduled for oct, 2007!

updated 1-09-2007
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As long as the system is tinkered with (as it will, inevitably), the existence of a fourth edition will not lessen the grail-hood of 2nd (or the (in my opinion) inferior 3rd edition, for that matter...).
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I had second edition with all the expansions, but a leak in my closet from a flood resulted in the loss of this, Ambush, and Fast Food Franchise. I think I most mourn the loss of FFF, but Talisman was a favorite dating back to my college days in the early '80's.
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one upside of game collecting is if your house is ever broken into your games are safe. they'd walk right by a mint war in europe to get that $99 DVD playa
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5. Board Game: I'm the Boss! [Average Rating:6.93 Overall Rank:433]
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A German friend sent this to me.
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What a great game! It is my most requested game night event. Quick to learn, quick to play and a lot of fun. Find it, you won't regret it.
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Got it. Love it.
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This is truly a great game, but it has lost some of its "collectible" status with its re-release as "I'm the Boss!"
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Also de-grailed
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My wife Kasey had played this at one of the early Unity Games gatherings and loved it. After pining for it for a couple years, she finally told me that we should secure a copy, and that she thought it was worth up to about eighty dollars or so. The reprint was announced before I was able to locate a copy, and we got that instead. She still loves it!
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6. Board Game: Big Boss [Average Rating:7.09 Overall Rank:1136]
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Bought this from Funagain's post Essen sale - still in shrink. Not sure if I'll ever open/play it.
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Oh, you should. It's a very worthwhile game, satisfyingly cutthroat. And it's great fun to stack up the building pieces, too.
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One just sold on eBay for $381.00.
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To continue the story, Aldie did acquire another copy, unpunched/in shrink, which was opened at BGG.con 2006, only to find that two of the "flagpoles" were missing (perhaps I should take this under advisement for all of my games that I keep in the shrink...) I played it, and I'm excited to hear that there are talks of a reprint. Even if the bits aren't as fancy as those in the Kosmos version, if they're at least as nice as the tiles in the Hasbro Acquire, I'll be happy.
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skelebone wrote:
To continue the story, Aldie did acquire another copy, unpunched/in shrink, which was opened at BGG.con 2006, only to find that two of the "flagpoles" were missing (perhaps I should take this under advisement for all of my games that I keep in the shrink...) I played it, and I'm excited to hear that there are talks of a reprint. Even if the bits aren't as fancy as those in the Kosmos version, if they're at least as nice as the tiles in the Hasbro Acquire, I'll be happy.


I own a copy in shrink. Not sure if i will open it. If I like acquire I probably will.
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Sorry to necro this, but I knew a comics shop owner in NC that would pretty much re-shrink things at will. He had the plastic wrap and a heat gun.

I never trust shrink wrap for older games.
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7. Board Game: Crude: The Oil Game [Average Rating:6.95 Overall Rank:1064]
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McMulti - Another German import. There's a funny story about the board - which I may tell someday.
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Tell now!

I managed to win this the only I played it by putting a string of petrol pumps across my plot and just selling the petrol everyone else refined! They spent time, trouble and money drilling and refining, and just kept flooding the market with cheap petrol. But by running six petrol stations diagonally across my plot, I could constantly buy from the market and sell through to the public. By the time they twigged this and started building their own petrol stations, I'd built enough capitol and simply sold my assets to win.
I'd still like a copy though.
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I just don't get this one. I played it once many years ago and found it very lacking.
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***UPDATE*** I recently traded away THIS and "Pirateer" in order to obtain '1'-EACH of 'Oldenberg Grenadiers' "Saratoga, 1777" and "Camden, S.C., 1780" BOTH of which are in pristine and UNpunched conditions! Not a bad deal, eh? cool
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One early version of the English rules translation left out one critical word: "red". When you roll doubles, the price of gas on the consumer market goes up five red dots (not just five dots.)

This is one reason many people don't like McMulti. Five dots isn't enough.
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Got it for a bargain of 53€ at ebay (blue Hexagame box)
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8. Board Game: Titan [Average Rating:7.08 Overall Rank:335]
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Got this when Amazon was dumping off its AH reserves.. still unpunched. Should I sell it? I don't care for the game much.
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Have you tried this one as a two-player game? I've decided that I mostly dislike the game for more than two, but it can be a lot of fun (and not too long, either) for two. If you still don't like it with two, then I'd sell it, if I were you. But then I rarely keep games that I don't actually enjoy playing. If depends what kind of collector you are, I guess.
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I have a dog-eared, but complete, copy of the AH version. A couple friends had the original, silk-screened edition that (TSR? Trampier?) published. That's a real object d'art for gamers!
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If you have this game and don't like it, try selling it on ebay. One went the other day for $141.50. I would have bid for it but 100 was already too much for me.

http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?type=4&cam...
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Reprinted by Valley Games. Readily available.
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9. Board Game: Full Metal Planete [Average Rating:7.47 Overall Rank:593]
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Acquired from Brian Bankler in a sale.
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You probably won't like this game. You should give it to me.
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Got it for 96€, there's another one running on ebay, still 6 days to go, allready at 40€!!!
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I gave up ever finding it for an affordable price. I found the computer version instead. And that was Free!laugh
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Just got it - whoohooo!
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This is the one game I ever got stiffed on in an ebay sale from Germany. They said they got the money and shipped it. That was 8 years ago and I'm still waiting. Luckily I found another copy a few years later. It was complete but had a small tear on the lid. Oh well, better that than nothing. I keep my old 5 1/4 inch IBM floppy disks with the rules in the game box for posterity.
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10. Board Game: Roads & Boats [Average Rating:7.70 Overall Rank:120]
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Essen 2000 - picked it up at start of show. Glad I did, they sold out!
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ya, this is one i would really like to play.

ah well.
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I don't know if it really qualifies for this list anymore since it was reprinted several times and is around if you're willing to look, at least among European retailers.


OK, I gotta say, LOL! What goes around goes away. It is now very out of print, and goes for $250 for $275 on eBay. Amazing. Fortunately, I was around to get one in 2003 when they were available.
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How 'bout 201€... That's the price I got an unpunched 3rd edition for! laugh
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OK, this is as good a place for history as anywhere.

As of September, 2006, the reprint of the 3rd Edition (2nd Printing) is out for about $90 at Boards and Bits. It is bound to be out of print again soon. I bought a back up copy while I could. Lets see what happens over the next few years.

Side note: I got Antiquity as well. I posted a question "Should I buy this? I have not played it." The general response was, "Dude. Buy it. Play it. If you do not like it, sell it for $400 in a few years. What's the decision?"
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Antiquity is now also out in the 2nd edition. However they changed the box so I must get a 2nd edition copy of Antwiquity too... wow
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11. Board Game: Cosmic Encounter [Average Rating:6.98 Overall Rank:376]
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Had 2 copies of this... stupidly sold the first, but found a second sitting in a Dallas game shop.
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Yes, the Mayfair edition of this game was a grail for me, also. I picked up Simply Cosmic and More Cosmic Encounter from Mayfair easily. I finally got the original set in a trade, after losing enormous bids on eBay. This is one game I don't think I'll ever give up. (Not to mention it's a great game.) Will the curse ever be broken? Can a company produce Cosmic Encounter and not stop!?
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Still ranks as a grail - the Eon or Mayfair editions have not been equaled by newer editions.
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In my possession;

Eon edition in the large box with all expansions.

Mayfair edition as well as More Cosmic Encounter.

Hasbro edition and its expans... well, nothing more, really.

Best. Game. Ever.
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I think the upcoming FFG version will relegate all previous ones to oblivion.ninja
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Walt Mulder wrote:
I think the upcoming FFG version will relegate all previous ones to oblivion.ninja


Once the expansions for the base game are out, then the FFG version will be superior, not until then.
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12. Board Game: Colossal Arena [Average Rating:6.91 Overall Rank:363]
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Another EBay purchase... had 2 copies and gave 1 away at the Gathering of Friends prize table... picked up by Peter Sarrett if I remember correctly.
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I have this game But i didnt think to much of this game? Is it actully worht something?
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Got it, love it, play it, etc.
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Had it a while back. Never found anyone to play it with. Now sold. meeple
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What Cranky said.
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NO LONGER A GRAIL GAME (reprinted as Colossal Arena)

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Another German import. I like this game quite a bit.
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Want it.
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A friend praised it a while back and i got it on ebay then. It sat on my shelf for 2 or 3 years untill last month, when we finally decided to go for it, read the rules and played it. It was an astounding fun and I'm sure it will hit the play table more often now. javascript:emoticon(document.MESSAGEFORM.body,'meeple')
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14. Board Game: Cartel [Average Rating:6.89 Overall Rank:2219]
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Traded Magalon (another grail) with Stephen Glenn. It's an ok game I suppose, but very random.
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Magalon is a grail game? How come I got one for $25 or something similar?
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Slight update: Now got the WORST condition copy of this that's probably ever been circulated. Woohoo, I'll stick with Priceless, so the Cartel doesn't fall apart any more than it already is.
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just found this at a thrift store for $2.99. looks like it might even be fun.
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This game was also sold in a Dallas version with all the properties branded from the TV series. They basically have the same rules but the Dallas version misses the bit about seeding the initial deal of properties.
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This game was also sold in a Dallas version with all the properties branded from the TV series. They basically have the same rules but the Dallas version misses the bit about seeding the initial deal of properties.


What seeding would that be?
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15. Board Game: Arkham Horror [Average Rating:7.56 Overall Rank:71]
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In the early 90's, before ebay, a lot of games passed through my hands as I bought them from thrift shops and resold them on usenet. I made a couple of thousand dollars and had a lot of fun (and found good homes for lonely games). One that always fetched a high price was Arkham Horror by Chaosium. I understand they're planning a reprint, which is nice, as I might actually play the thing.
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This was a holy grail for me too until I finally got sick of waiting for a "deal" and paid $90 for a copy on eBay. Played it once, thought it was pathetic, and sold it on eBay for $100. So at least I didn't lose any money on it. Definitely a game for collectors, not players.
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NO LONGER A GRAIL GAME (reprint)

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The Fantasy Flight game is more a re-design than a re-issue. I'm not sure if the Chaosium edition is still considered a grail, but I think it might be safely considered to be such.
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Exactly: I prefer the original incarnation.
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I also prefer the original. The difference between the two versions is dramatic.
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16. Board Game: Dark Tower [Average Rating:6.40 Overall Rank:1707]
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Dark Tower is a game that I always see people get excited about when someone sets it up at a gaming convention. It tends to get more comments about its value vs it's actual gameplay and usually it's owner gets a lot of "kudo's" from the story of how he obtained his copy.

Maybe it's the sentimental value this game holds for many of us (who had it when we were young) that makes this game be worth so much or it could be the "coolness" factor of the mechanized tower, either way the one copy in the BBG marketplace is selling for $250 dollars. If that isnt Grail-like, I don't know what is!
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I sold my copy last year for over $200. I was the only owner, it had all the pieces, and the tower still worked. I doubted that I would ever play it again, so I sold it and bought a bunch of new games that I do play.

Not sure why it goes for so much now (although I bet if you calucated what this game cost in 1985 in today's dollars, it might be a bargin). I liked it, but it really isn't all that much fun anymore, IMO, and you can get several java ports off the 'net...
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We played this so much back in the day that it was wore out and trashed within two years. Due to this, I don't have to kick myself that it was thrown out long ago, as I doubt anyone would pay for a super-glued darktower and broken/missing pieces. Would like to play again once, but I'm not spending $250 to do it!
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In the early 89's I got stationed in Berlin. In the day this game was a favorite of all us barracks rats. We would play this while drinking beer all night, till it was time for morning formation!!

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I remember this game being pretty pricey even at release. Still a good game for bringing others in. I agree it was much more unique at the time, but still fun today. I play the PC version now that was created by fellow fans of the game. This is the one game in my pre-marriage pile that my wife loves and will play with me. That makes it worth the $$$ on eBay for sure. Great fun for four and not so bad even today. Definetly expensive today to get, play the freebie on the PC if you go this route now. Of course you'll miss out on the Tower and other tangible perks. You will save $250 for use in buying more modern games.
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This is the game that got me into gaming. I remember the old commercials with Orson Wells. I still have my original copy and picked up a spare at a garage sale. I haven't played it for many years, so I'll have to dust it off and give it a go sometime.
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17. Board Game: Empires of the Middle Ages [Average Rating:7.14 Overall Rank:1159]
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I've been trying to track down a copy for about 5 years or so (I spent almost 12 years getting Divine Right, so I'm not in a rush). I find this a strange one becasue no one seems to play it, but everyone hoards their copy. Maybe now Decision games is going to re-release it some of the old copies will make the light of day at more reasonable prices.
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Someone, somewhere has got the copy I *gave* away to a charity shop about four years ago ...

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Reprinted, commonly available in January 2007... (at least I know a copy is still sitting in my FLGS. The price that folks are seeing is about the same as the price on the new edition.
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I must say the original is much better, though...
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I must say the original is much better, though...


How so? The rules are identical, are they not?
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"... no one seems to play it, but everyone hoards their copy..."

Several reasons. Although it's very long, it is a very good game. I don't play it because solitaire it's boring, but unfortunately it's very hard to get opponents - the subject is a bit esoteric and I don't want to threaten friendships by asking for a large commitment from people to play a complex, lengthy and somewhat arcane game. (Also the bookkeeping can get a bit onerous and confusing at times).

Also it had a good reputation when released and is now collectable. Why not keep it?
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Very hard to find deduction game. There are various editions, but none was produced in large quantities.
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My copy sold to me by the estimable G. Aleknevicus, a day after Ms. Lorna Wong bought the copy I was about to buy from Aldie....
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Just bought my third copy. I put a shrinkwrapped copy on the Gulf Games prize table... I kept one... the third one is destined for a prize table at Southwest Games.
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Any idea which is "more common" - the "Code 777" version or the "Code 7" version? Was this ever published in the USA? I believe the Chieftain Products edition "Code 7" may have only been published in Canada and the Jumbo edition "Code 777" in Europe. Am I correct, or did one of these companies publish in the USA?
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Recently traded a copy of AH's Air Baron for an unpunched copy of this from a BGG'er in France. I think we were both happy with the trade, but I know I was glad to finally lay my hands on this one!
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Just got the Jumbo Edition for 30Euros on Ebay... finally!!
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I played this one at BGG.con 2006, and I think it's a great deduction game, but with a grail price on it, one could just as easily make a copy from a discarded Rummikub set, some model paints, and a set of printable business cards (as the files for printing the cards are in the game entry).
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19. Board Game: Discretion [Average Rating:6.77 Overall Rank:4370]
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An original and gripping little game of real-estate investment and development. A little random for current tastes but still quite fun. Good luck finding it. A friend of mine bought a copy for $5 at an auction at one gaming convention, and when we conferred afterwards she agreed that if I had been in the room she would have bought it for $120. (Strangely, she didn't agree that therefore she owed me $115 for not showing up.)
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My copy of Discretion was sold on eBay with all sorts of blather about what pristine condition it was in, etc. All the waterstained elements were neatly hidden away. It's in fairly decent shape, however, and I paid less than the CMV for it, so who cares.
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20. Board Game: Tales of the Arabian Nights [Average Rating:7.21 Overall Rank:633]
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I searched for this great game after reading about it on one of the Geeklists. I got a used copy for relatively cheaply minus the storybook. Fortunately, some fellow gamers helped me out and copied the book for me at cost! (Thank you, thank you!)We have had a hilarious time playing Tales of the Arabian Nights. Now one of my favorites.
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I got mine for $4.00. There was a whole stack of them at my local KB-Toy store (this was back when they sold these sorts of games once in awhile). At the time I had no idea the game would become a Holy Grail or I would have bought the whole stack.
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It's for sale on e-bay right now.
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I was lucky enough to get this when it first came out.
The story book is getting pretty shaggy, but
I won't stop playing it. I'll have to bring it
along to the Dallas Gamers some Tuesday.
I recall I spent an entire game once imprisoned
and talking only to a strange series of hunchbacks!
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German edition reprint but still a grail game

1-08-2007
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Z-Man Games is reprinting in 2008.
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21. Board Game: The Battle of the Little Big Horn [Average Rating:5.71 Overall Rank:5969]
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Finally got a copy of this one in excellent condition. Simple mechanics,and great figures. A personal favorite in my collection.
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Saw this in a little country town over the weekend but passed. Was about US$25. Complete but had broken pieces. Did I goof in not buying it?
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Probably, if the pieces were all there and repairable. With a fresh coat of paint all would be well worth the $25.
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I had a chance to play this at 7 years of age -- my first wargame. It will always have a mystical appeal though I never again seen a copy except on Ebay and here.

Sigh.
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Never seen this game sold in America. Rare and always costly overseas, usually around $75 to $100 plus international shipping.

I have a number of extra miniatures from a second copy. If you are missing Custer or any of the soldiers & Indians I'm open to trading what you need for a game anytime!

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22. Board Game: Railroader [Average Rating:5.01 Overall Rank:7225]
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Another great Western Theme game that I've been trying to get since reading Kulkman's review ( http://members.aol.com/kulkmann/rroader.htm) a while back. I finally got a near mint copy of this game and had a great time playing it the other night. It can be found in the UK, but be prepared to pay around $50 (or more with shipping) for a complete copy in excellent condition.
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My first boardgame when I was 7. I've got a copy in very good condition from an Ebayer of U.K. I paid about 26,00 Euros, including shipping costs. I'm really satisfied.
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23. Board Game: The Fury of Dracula [Average Rating:7.04 Overall Rank:650]
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The Fury of Dracula can fetch above $100.00 now on eBay. Unlike a lot of "collector's item" games, this one is actually a great game, even by today's standards.
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David Kelly
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I have one of my copies on ebay at the moment, check it out!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&;category=1177&item=3131046723&rd=1
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Robert Taylor-Smith
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Yah, it's being reprinted by FF. As part of their silver line games
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NO LONGER A GRAIL GAME (reprint/redone)

1-08-2007
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This may have been reprinted, but the reprint does not do the original justice. It's far too easy to kill Dracula.

The original is still the one to own.
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I bought this when it first came out. We had a lot of fun in high school and college playing this. I haven't had enough people with enough interest to play it recently, though. Also, closing down Zagreb made being Dracula very difficult.
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24. Board Game: Kampf um Rom [Average Rating:5.46 Unranked]
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Sadly, I never got around to actually ordering this when it was still available. On the surface it looks just like "my kind of game": My favorite theme (ancients), and nice components as well.

So if someone has a copy for sale, all I can say is "Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi. You're my only hope!"
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Update: Well, it isn't a Holy Grail for me anymore. To those who have been willing to sell me copies: Thanks for the offer!
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25. Board Game: DAK [Average Rating:8.14 Overall Rank:1338]
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On the wargame end, this is one of the big ones, interesting considering that it's only 5 years old. Copies go for $250+ these days on eBay (although it listed new at $89-ish, so that may not represent quite the percentage increase of, say, Elfenroads). I think the appeal is that it's a fundamentally clean, playable system, but one which gives you an incredible feel for the details of the operation, and DAK covers a campaign with a lot of drama and scope. Do people play it? Sure, there always seems to be one game going on at cons that have big games, so that makes it quite unusual for a wargame collectible. On the other hand, more than a few people I know sit on two copies which may artifically deflate supply.
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A new copy of DAK (1997) unpunched on E-Bay This week!! June 28 2004
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Obviously, not so collectible now that it has been reprinted. Maybe it will be again in 5 years ...
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Well, a GREAT list and envy comes to mind when I saw "Full Metal Planete" on the list.
My collectibles includes: Titan, Ave Caesar, Elfen Roads, Talisman 3rd ED. + ALL expansions, Formule Dé 2nd. ED. + all official 2nd. ED. tracks and the NON-colored MEXICO official club track, orig. Armada, the original Robo Rally and expansions, Warhammer's Mighty Empires...and more.
I won a £16 bidding for 1987 Dungeon Quest in mint cond., but it was not honored by the seller, damn pirate!
Still lookin' for UpFront and Kremlin, to complete my +70 games library.
I might be gloating, but I still don't have "Full Metal Planete", that I let slip through my greasy fingers back in 1993, at a fleemarket in Paris... I didn't want to spend the measly 35FF ($6) that the frog asked of me - bummer!!!
The game was in mint condition, but I opted for "RISK", still in plastic wrap, but in FRENCH! 2 x Bummer!!!
European blondes gets all the fun...
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Okay, this is making me sick now... up until a couple of years ago, the Canterbury Adventure Gaming Society had a cupboard full of games on campus... including Ave Caesar, Arkham Horror and a few other crackers.

Last year, start of academic year, they go to open it... new lock. The get a porter to open it... one cupboard full of cleaning gear.

I have since heard rumours that the games are safe, were spirited away by the master of the college, etc etc, but that was about as scary a day as it gets for a geek...
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Has anyone mentioned Republic of Rome? I'd add it but I don't have time right now.
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ALDIE!

You should delete this geeklist perhaps..and do a new version for 2007. OR else just do another one for 2007 and leave this for posterity


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Blade Runner The game is one of the holy grails. There were only 100 ever made what 20 / 25 years ago. I wonder how many are still out there?
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