The Hotness
Games|People|Company
Dominion: Dark Ages
Fantastiqa
Mage Knight: Board Game
Among the Stars
Eclipse
Mice and Mystics
Thunder Road
Lords of Waterdeep
Descent: Journeys in the Dark (Second Edition)
Collapsible D: The Final Minutes of the Titanic
Virgin Queen
The Big Bang Theory: The Party Game
Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small
Skyline
Dominion
A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition)
The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game
Dungeon Fighter
1989: Dawn of Freedom
Android: Netrunner
Ace of Spies
Alien Frontiers
Twilight Struggle
Arkham Horror
Agricola
7 Wonders
Ora et Labora
Dungeon Command: Sting of Lolth
Village
Wrong Chemistry
War of the Ring
Hawaii
Glory to Rome
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Kingdom Builder
Twilight Imperium (third edition)
The Castles of Burgundy
Trajan
Targi
Quarriors! Quarmageddon
Race for the Galaxy
Battlestar Galactica
Zombicide
Omen: A Reign of War
Power Grid
Caylus
Dominant Species
Tammany Hall
Small World
Le Havre
Back to School: World History According to Student Bloopers
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Recommend
295 
 Thumb up
6.18
 tip
 Thumb up
Richard Lederer ( www.verbivore.com, and author of the Anguished English series) is an English teacher who takes great delight in collecting certifiably genuine bloopers from student essays and exams, submitted by teachers throughout the US from grade 8 to college level.

To celebrate the fact that students in the northern hemisphere have concluded summer and are back in school, I am pleased to present you with an alternate world history, written by real students, as compiled by Mr. Lederer.

For the sequel to this list, see: Back to School 2: American History According to Student Bloopers
Your Tags: Add tags
Popular Tags: funny [+] history [+] humor [+] engrish [+] silliness [+] humour [+] [View All]
1. Board Game: In the Land of Egypt [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The inhibitants of Egypt were called mummies. They lived in Sarah Dessert and traveled by Camelot. The climate of the Sarah is such that the inhibitants have to live elsewhere, so certain areas of the dessert are cultivated by irritation. The Egyptians built the Pyramids in the shape of a huge triangular cube. The Pramids are a range of mountains between France and Spain.
58 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 11 comments [Hide]
nothing but static
New Zealand
Unspecified
mbmbmbmbmb
Sounds remarkably similar to one of my high school french essays.
16 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:07 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Bernd Caspers
Germany
Mönchengladbach
Unspecified
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
They lived in Sarah Dessert and traveled by Camelot.


Hmm...Sarah Dessert...
2 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:03 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Tim Seitz
United States
Glen Allen
VA
Like water spilled on the ground, which cannot be recovered, so we must die. But God does not take away life; instead, he devises ways so that a banished person may not remain estranged from him. 2 Sam 14:14
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
thrasymachus wrote:
I call bullshit...too many "cute" mistakes...

Yea, like a "kid" who was ignorant of the Sahara would be familiar enough with the Pyrenees to make a pun about it.
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:27 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Brian Poe
United States
Tucson
Arizona
Something that would have been purple if there was light to see it by scuttled across the floor.
badge
Time is for Dragonflies and Angels. The former live too little and the latter live too long.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
SVan wrote:
Quote:
The Egyptians built the Pyramids in the shape of a huge triangular cube.


I would like some dice that are in the shape of a triangular cube.


I'm waiting to see a kingsburg variant for these dice.
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:28 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Randy Cox
United States
Clemson
South Carolina
designer
1024x768 works just fine - Don't Wide the Site!
badge
The Back Alley gets no respect.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
gavingva wrote:
thrasymachus wrote:
I call bullshit...too many "cute" mistakes...


His collections are an amalgam of bloopers.
Well that renders the whole thing useless in my mind. Better to simply put in single entries for each real quote and not group them together into jibberish.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Feb 20, 2009 8:12 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
2. Board Game: Greek Tragedy [Average Rating:6.17 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The Greeks were a highly sculptured people, and without them we wouldn't have history. The Greeks invented three kinds of columns - Corinthian, Doric and Ironic. The Greeks also had myths. A myth is a female moth. One myth says that the mother of Achilles dipped him in the river Stynx until he became intollerable. Achilles appears in the "Iliad," by Homer. Homer also wrote the "Oddity," in which Penelope was the last hardship that Ulysses endured on his journey. Actually, Homer was not written by Homer but by another man of that name.

44 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Breno K.
Brazil
Brasília
Distrito Federal
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
""Oddity," in which Penelope was the last hardship that Ulysses endured on his journey"

What a shrew!
15 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:19 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
John Lyons Beck
United States
Olympia
Washington
Hey man-- smell my finger!
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
EndersGame wrote:
Actually, Homer was not written by Homer but by another man of that name.


D'oh!!!!
28 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:13 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
All your base are belong to us
Canada
Montreal
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
The Greeks invented three kinds of columns - Corinthian, Doric and Ironic.


The wording couldn't have been much more ionic
8 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:39 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Scott Muir
United States
Farmington
Connecticut
mbmbmb
Quote:
One myth says that the mother of Achilles dipped him in the river Stynx until he became intollerable.



We actually have a pond that's similar around here.
2 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:36 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
3. Board Game: Greek Heroes [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went around giving people advice. They killed him. Socrates died from an overdose of wedlock. After his death, his career suffered a dramatic decline. In the Olympic Games, Greeks ran races, jumped, hurled the biscuits, and threw the java. The reward to the victor was a coral wreath. The government of Athen was democratic because the people took the law into their own hands. There were no wars in Greece, as the mountains were so high that they couldn't climb over to see what their neighbors were doing. When they fought the Parisians, the Greeks were outnumbered because the Persians had more men.
37 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 11 comments [Hide]
Ken B.
United States
Fayetteville
Tennessee
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Hilarious!



Quote:
the Greeks were outnumbered because the Persians had more men.



Who the hell is writing this, John Madden?

77 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:15 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Just Another User
United States
Mundelein
Illinois
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
franklincobb wrote:
Hilarious!



Quote:
the Greeks were outnumbered because the Persians had more men.



Who the hell is writing this, John Madden?



Little Yogi Berra...
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:06 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Richard Pomeroy
United States
Chester Springs
Pennsylvania
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Jayolas wrote:
EndersGame wrote:
Socrates was a famous Greek teacher who went around giving people advice. They killed him.


Some gamers would do well to remember this event and let the newbs figure out strategy on their own for once...


The BGG grammar police should take note of this as well.
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:47 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Bernd Caspers
Germany
Mönchengladbach
Unspecified
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Stupid old Geeks!!
Why were they throwing the biscuits when they could have eaten them??
2 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:12 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Brian Sherry

Vienna
Virginia
msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
This reads like Victor Davis Hanson, only more balanced!
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 7:51 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
4. Board Game: Rome [Average Rating:6.32 Overall Rank:1900]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Eventually, the Ramons conquered the Geeks. History call people Romans because they never stayed in one place for very long. At Roman banquets, the guests wore garlic in their hair. Julius Caesar extinguished himself on the battlefields of Gaul. The Ides of March murdered him because they thought he was going to be made king. Dying, he gasped out: "Tee hee, Brutus." Nero was a cruel tyranny who would torture his poor subjects by playing the fiddle to them.

Rome came to have too many luxuries and baths. At Roman banquets, the guests wore garlics in their hair. They took two baths in two days, and that's the cause of the fall of Rome. Rome was invaded by ballbearings, and is full of fallen arches today.
37 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Patrick Twitchell
United States
Ayer
Massachusetts
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Well, ladies and gent's, it was a hard-fought battle, but unfortunately, we've been conquered.
9 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:38 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
King of All Simians — Not a Mere Diplomat
United States
Wilmington
North Carolina
designer
Listen, this is no set of rules. I'm not tellin' you what to do, all I'm saying is I'm bringin' up three things that are, like, so important to the whole world, I don't happen to find much importance in.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Agip wrote:
Quote:
Eventually, the Ramons conquered the Geeks.


Help, help, we have all been undone!

Clearly a typo. It was the Ramones who conquered the Geeks.



They sure took me over, anyway.
15 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:43 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Wendell
United States
Arlington
Virginia
flag msg tools
All the little chicks with crimson lips, go...
badge
Hey, get your stinking cursor off my face! I got nukes, you know.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Dying, he gasped out: "Tee hee, Brutus."


You silly prankster, you! Now please get this dagger out of my back!
14 
 Thumb up
0.25
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:51 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
David Heldt
United States
Unspecified
Unspecified
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Holmes! wrote:
Agip wrote:
Quote:
Eventually, the Ramons conquered the Geeks.


Help, help, we have all been undone!

Clearly a typo. It was the Ramones who conquered the Geeks.



They sure took me over, anyway.


GABBA GABBA HEY!
2 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:09 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Kevin Brown
United States
Macon
Georgia
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
If you're going to San Clemente, be sure to wear some garlic in your hair.
3 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:01 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
5. Board Game: Empires of the Middle Ages [Average Rating:7.14 Overall Rank:1159]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Then came the Middle ages, when everyone was middle aged. King Alfred conquered the Dames. King Arthur lived in the Age of Shivery with brave knights on prancing horses and beautiful women. King Harold mustarded his troops before the battle of Hastings. Joan of Arc was burnt to a steak and was cannonized by George Bernard Shaw. And victims of the blue-bonnet plague grew boobs on their necks. Finally, Magna Carta provided that no free man should be hanged twice for the same offense.
34 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
(ʇllıʍ)
United States
Spokane Valley
Washington
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Does this foreshadow a Busen Memo expansion?
2 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:21 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Steve Wagner
United States
Kenesaw
Nebraska
designer
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Finally, Magna Carta provided that no free man should be hanged twice for the same offense.


That must have been a great relief for those that were about to be hung.
11 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:48 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
David Heldt
United States
Unspecified
Unspecified
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
King Harold mustarded his troops before the battle of Hastings.


That hot dog--
6 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:11 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Neil Mason
England
Horsham
West Sussex
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
King Arthur lived in the Age of Shivery
because there was nothing like central heating (it was lost with those "Ramons" )
4 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Edited Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:38 pm
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 3:36 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Alan Kaiser
United States
Aurora
Colorado
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
EndeersGame wrote:
And victims of the blue-bonnet plague grew boobs on their necks.


And inspired the game that eventually led to Busen Memo; Neckan Busen Memo
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:32 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
6. Board Game: William Tell [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
In midevil times most people were alliterate. The greatest writer of the futile ages was Chaucer, who wrote many poems and verses and also wrote literature. During this time people put on morality plays about ghosts, goblins, virgins, and other mythical creatures. Another story was about William Tell, who shot an arrow through an apple while standing on his son's head.
37 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Matt Davis
United States
Upland
California
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
In midevil times most people were alliterate.


I'm drowning in irony over here.

Quote:
...virgins, and other mythical creatures.


I'm guessing this one's in a sorority...
22 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:40 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Just call me Erik
United States
Waldorf
Maryland
designer
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
In midevil times most people were alliterate.


Hey! Heave-to and unhand my handsome horse, hoodlum!

But Sir, Surely you surmise that someone may suprise us?

Knights, Knaves and Nobles, Know Now The Notations on this Note!
28 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:00 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
7. Board Game: Age of Renaissance [Average Rating:7.13 Overall Rank:377]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The Renaissance was an age in which more individuals felt the value of their human being. Martin Luther was nailed to the church door at Wittenberg for selling papal indulgences. He died a horrible death, being excommunicated by a bull. It was the painter Donatello's interest in the female nude that made him the father of the Renaissance. It was an age of great inventions and discoveries. Gutenberg invented the Bible. Sir Walter Raleigh is a historical figure because he invented cigarettes. Another important invention was the circulation of blood. Sir Francis Drake circumcised the world with a 100-foot clipper.
67 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 13 comments [Hide]
ian morris
United Kingdom
lichfield
staffordshire
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Sir Francis Drake circumcised the world with a 100-foot clipper.



There's a mental image I won't lose in a hurry !


gulp


41 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:21 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Bernd Caspers
Germany
Mönchengladbach
Unspecified
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Gutenberg invented the Bible.


Hilarious!
Everbody knows Jesus invented the Bible...
8 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:17 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Steven Wamboldt
Canada
St Margaret's Bay
Nova Scotia
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The Jakster wrote:
Quote:
Gutenberg invented the Bible.


Hilarious!
Everbody knows Jesus invented the Bible...


Didn't King James design an expansion to the Bible?
7 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 11:11 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Ian Andrews Madsen
United States
Logan
Utah
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
stevw wrote:
The Jakster wrote:
Quote:
Gutenberg invented the Bible.


Hilarious!
Everbody knows Jesus invented the Bible...


Didn't King James design an expansion to the Bible?
It was more like a second edition, where they overhauled it.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Edited Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:46 pm
  • Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 8:45 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Nicklas Roman
Sweden

Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Best one! Truly hilarious!
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 11:08 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
8. Board Game: Britannia [Average Rating:7.31 Overall Rank:215]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The government of England was a limited mockery. Henry VIII found walking difficult because he had an abbess on his knee. From the womb of Henry VIII Protestantism was born. He found walking difficult because he had an abbess on his knee.

Queen Elizabeth was the "Virgin Queen." As a queen she was a success. When Elizabeth exposed herself before her troops, they all shouted "hurrah." Then her Navy went out and defeated the Spanish Armadillo.
36 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Chevee Dodd
United States
Fairmont
West Virginia
designer
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Henry VIII found walking difficult because he had an abbess on his knee.


I bet!
Thank the lord I never went to Catholic school!

Chevee
7 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:31 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Gordon Watson
United Kingdom
Banstead
Surrey
Beneath this mask there is an idea.....and ideas are bulletproof.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
The government of England was a limited mockery


It still is!
41 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 1:23 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Wendell
United States
Arlington
Virginia
flag msg tools
All the little chicks with crimson lips, go...
badge
Hey, get your stinking cursor off my face! I got nukes, you know.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Then her Navy went out and defeated the Spanish Armadillo.


Hey they were tough - their armor was pretty good by 16th century naval standards!

10 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:53 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Muz Fish
Australia
Canberra
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
When Elizabeth exposed herself before her troops, they all shouted "hurrah."


Wouldn't you?

After all, good manner cost nothing.
9 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:50 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Greg Reimann
United States
Waltham
Massachusetts
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
As a queen she was a success.


What exactly are you implying here?
5 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Sat Sep 13, 2008 4:28 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
9. Board Game: The Game of Shakespeare [Average Rating:4.84 Overall Rank:7457]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The greatest writer of the Renaissance was William Shakespeare. Shakespeare was born in the year 1564, supposedly on his birthday. He never made much money and is famous only because of his plays. He wrote tragedies, comedies, and hysterectomies, all in Islamic pentameter.He lived in Windsor with his merry wives, writing tragedies, comedies and errors. In one of Shakespear's famous plays, Hamlet rations out his situation by relieving himself in a long soliloquy. His mind is filled with the filth of incestuous sheets which he pours over every time he sees his mother. In another play, Lady Macbeth tries to convince Macbeth to kill the King by attacking his manhood. The clown in "As You Like It" is named Touchdown, and Romeo and Juliet are an example of a heroic couplet. Romeo's last wish was to be laid by Juliet.Romeo and Juliet are an example of a heroic couplet. Writing at the same time as Shakespear was Miquel Cervantes. He wrote "Donkey Hote". The next great author was John Milton. Milton wrote "Paradise Lost." Then his wife dies and he wrote "Paradise Regained."
39 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Aaron Tubb
United States
Fuquay Varina
North Carolina
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
This entry is probably my favorite. laugh

Quote:
Shakespeare was born in the year 1564, supposedly on his birthday.
um... lol
11 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Sep 9, 2008 10:18 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Paul Glenn
United States
Wheaton
Maryland
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
The next great author was John Milton. Milton wrote "Paradise Lost." Then his wife dies and he wrote "Paradise Regained."


That one kills me.
11 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:51 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Jay LaFountain
United States
Coldwater
Michigan
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Romeo's last wish was to be laid by Juliet.


Very true!
10 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 6:46 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Shemp Fill-in: Chan?
United States
Fountain Valley
California
Which way did I go?
badge
Pick a card.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
In another play, Lady Macbeth tries to convince Macbeth to kill the King by attacking his manhood.

I don't understand. Did Lady Macbeth say, "Kill the king by attacking his (the king's) manhood," or did she attack Macbeth's manhood as an attempt to get him (Macbeth) to kill the king?
3 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 2:30 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Mark Slater
United Kingdom
Newport
Newport, South Wales
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Hamlet rations out his situation by relieving himself in a long soliloquy


Is a soliloquy a sort of bucket?
4 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:43 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
10. Board Game: Age of Enlightenment [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Meanwhile in Europe, the enlightenment was a reasonable time. Voltair invented electricity and also wrote a book called "Candy." Gravity was invented by Isaac Walton. It is chiefly noticeable in the autumn, when the apples are falling off the trees.
32 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Paul Szilagyi
United States
Parma
Ohio
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Gravity was invented by Isaac Walton.

You'd think you'd get more notoriety out of a thing like that, but I've never heard of him...
shake
10 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:34 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Paul Glenn
United States
Wheaton
Maryland
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Voltair invented electricity and also wrote a book called "Candy."


So Iggy Pop was covering Voltaire. Hmm. I guess you do learn something new every day.
7 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 4:53 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Kevin Brown
United States
Macon
Georgia
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
ZeroZilla wrote:
Quote:
Gravity was invented by Isaac Walton.

You'd think you'd get more notoriety out of a thing like that, but I've never heard of him...
shake


The silly kid misspelled his name.
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 2:09 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Bernd Caspers
Germany
Mönchengladbach
Unspecified
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
pilight wrote:
ZeroZilla wrote:
Quote:
Gravity was invented by Isaac Walton.

You'd think you'd get more notoriety out of a thing like that, but I've never heard of him...
shake


The silly kid misspelled his name.


Wrong, wrong, wrong!!!
Gravity was invented by Stephen Hawking, kids these days, they should watch more Futurama! shake
4 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 12:25 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
11. Board Game: Music Mania [Average Rating:4.56 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Johann Bach wrote a great many musical compositions and had a large number of children. In between he practiced on an old spinster which he kept up in his attic. Bach died from 1750 to the present. Bach was the most famous composer in the world, and so was Handel. Handel was half German, half Italian and half English. He was very large. Bach died from 1750 to the present. Beethoven wrote music even though he was deaf. He was so deaf he wrote loud music. He took long walks in the forest even when everyone was calling for him. Beethoven expired in 1827 and later died for this.
40 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Ken B.
United States
Fayetteville
Tennessee
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Bach died from 1750 to the present.



That HAD to be unpleasant.

35 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:22 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Steve Donohue
United States
Allen Park
Michigan
flag msg tools
Avatar
Quote:
Handel was half German, half Italian and half English. He was very large.


You have to admire the internal consistency. After identifying him as, apparently composed of 3 halves, the writer acknowledges that he is larger than average.

A nice touch.
48 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:49 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
John Lyons Beck
United States
Olympia
Washington
Hey man-- smell my finger!
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
franklincobb wrote:
Quote:
Bach died from 1750 to the present.


That HAD to be unpleasant.



It's true. Piano students murder Bach year in, year out. It's probably happening right now...

shake

60 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:21 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Tiago Ali de Oliveira Bueno
Brazil
Campinas
São Paulo
publisher
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Must stop reading now gulp
I will continue later, when my boss is not around ninja
6 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 12:56 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Justin Heimburger
United States
St. Louis
Missouri
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
In between he practiced on an old spinster which he kept up in his attic.


In spite of all the extra practice, Bach never did get that 21st child.
7 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:59 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Gustavo Godinez
Costa Rica
San José
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
"Beethoven expired in 1827 and later died for this" Nice cause of death...kiss
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Sep 23, 2008 5:52 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
12. Board Game: French Revolution [Average Rating:0.00 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
France was in a very serious state. The French Revolution was accomplished before it happened. The Marseillaise was the theme song of the French Revolution, and it catapulted into Napoleon. During the Napoleonic Wars, the crowned heads of Europe were trembling in their shoes. Then the Spanish gorrilas came down from the hills and nipped at Napoleon's flanks. Napoleon became ill with bladder problems and was very tense and unrestrained. He wanted an heir to inheret his power, but since Josephine was a baroness, she couldn't bear him any children.
29 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Andrew MacLeod
Canada
London
Ontario
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Oh, the best yet! The crowned heads trembling in their shoes was hilarious enough....but I can't get the image out of my uncrowned head of a terrified Napoleon being dragged off his horse by an angry clan of savage Spanish gorillas! LOL 'til I cried!
12 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:16 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Luk
Belgium

n/a
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
but since Josephine was a baroness, she couldn't bear him any children.


Yihaa, probably the best anticonception ever!
Now I just have to find me a baroness...
5 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 10:33 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Kevin Bernatz
United States
Alexandria
Virginia
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
I must tip you 1 for being the first person on BGG ever to make me laugh out loud while reading a geeklist... Too funny...

-K

HeinzGuderian wrote:
Quote:
Then the Spanish gorrilas came down from the hills and nipped at Napoleon's flanks.


This tactic was actually a refinement of our Armadillo usage.
6 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 7:43 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
13. Board Game: Queen Victoria's Navy [Average Rating:6.78 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The sun never set on the British Empire because the British Empire is in the East and the sun sets in the West. Queen Victoria was the longest queen. She sat on a thorn for 63 years. She was a moral woman who practiced virtue. Her death was the final event which ended her reign. Her reclining years and finally the end of her life were exemplatory of a great personality. Her death was the final event which ended her reign.
29 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Ken B.
United States
Fayetteville
Tennessee
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Her death was the final event which ended her reign.



Yep, that'll do it.

16 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:19 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
United States

New York
flag msg tools
designer
When the world hands you a Jeffrey, furry walls will make it fine.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
I will now always think of the post-60s as the reclining years.
11 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:41 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Lee Massey
United States
Teachey
North Carolina
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
She must have had a tough butt to sit on a thorn for 63 years!
13 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:51 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
John Lyons Beck
United States
Olympia
Washington
Hey man-- smell my finger!
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
JackFlash wrote:
She must have had a tough butt to sit on a thorn for 63 years!


Now you know why you never see a picture of her smiling.

26 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 5:26 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Wendell
United States
Arlington
Virginia
flag msg tools
All the little chicks with crimson lips, go...
badge
Hey, get your stinking cursor off my face! I got nukes, you know.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
The sun never set on the British Empire because the British Empire is in the East and the sun sets in the West.


Truly, your logic is stunning.
7 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 11:57 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Tim Thorp
United States
Granite Falls
Washington
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
The sun never set on the British Empire because...


God wouldn't trust an Englishman in the dark! laugh
4 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:36 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
14. Board Game: Inventions [Average Rating:5.00 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The nineteenth century was a time of many great inventions and thoughts. People stopped reproducing by hand and started reproducing by machine. The invention of the steamboat caused a network of rivers to spring up. Cyrus McCormick invented the McCormick Raper, which did the work of a hundred men. Samuel Morse invented a code for telepathy. Louis Pastuer discovered a cure for rabbis. Charles Darwin was a naturailst who wrote the "Organ of the Species". Madman Curie discovered radium. And Karl Marx became one of the Marx Brothers.
45 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
Ken B.
United States
Fayetteville
Tennessee
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
McCormick Raper, which did the work of a hundred men.




"Rape, Murder, Arson, and Rape."

"You said Rape twice."

"I like Rape."

18 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Sep 9, 2008 9:21 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Junior McSpiffy
United States
Riverton
Utah
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
Samuel Morse invented a code for telepathy.


So, if I just learned the code, then I could make sense of all these random sounds I....

SHUT UP!!! I'M TRYING TO TYPE HERE!!!!

... sounds I hear in my head?

Quote:
People stopped reproducing by hand and started reproducing by machine.


It's true... they have websites about this, you know....
2 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:49 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Paul DeStefano
United States
Long Island
New York
designer
It's a Zendrum. www.zendrum.com
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Brave Sir Robin wrote:
EndersGame wrote:
People stopped reproducing by hand and started reproducing by machine.


Call me a Luddite, but I still prefer to do it by hand.
devil


Get yourself a girlfriend. It gets even better.
5 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 9:26 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Scott Muir
United States
Farmington
Connecticut
mbmbmb
Quote:
Charles Darwin was a naturailst who wrote the "Organ of the Species".


I can't stop laughing at this one.
3 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 1:49 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Mike Frantz
United States
Wenatchee
Washington
Geosphere wrote:
Brave Sir Robin wrote:
EndersGame wrote:
People stopped reproducing by hand and started reproducing by machine.


Call me a Luddite, but I still prefer to do it by hand.
devil


Get yourself a girlfriend. It gets even better.


Not if she hears about that machine that does the work of a 100 men...good god man, I can't live up to that!
5 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Edited Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:21 pm
  • Posted Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:21 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
15. Board Game: The First World War [Average Rating:6.00 Unranked]
Ender Wiggins


msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The First World War, cause by the assignation of the Arch-Duck by a surf, ushered in a new error in the anals of human history.
32 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Paul Szilagyi
United States
Parma
Ohio
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
The assignation of the Arch-Duck by a surf

Wait, what?


For MGBM, wherever he is.
14 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:40 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Count Ringworm
United States

Iowa
Avatar
mbmb
Quote:
ushered in a new error in the anals of human history.


This sounds like a bunch of crap.
14 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Wed Sep 10, 2008 8:16 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
David Heldt
United States
Unspecified
Unspecified
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
The war ended when President Wilson arrived with his fourteen pointers--
3 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:25 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Tony T
United States
Spring
Texas
mbmbmbmbmb
It's Like history and prophecy all rolled into one simple sentence.
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:28 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Junior McSpiffy
United States
Riverton
Utah
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
cause by the assignation of the Arch-Duck by a surf


Proof that the old cliche' about water off a duck's back isn't 100% absolute.
2 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Edited Thu Sep 11, 2008 6:11 pm
  • Posted Thu Sep 11, 2008 12:52 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
40 comments [Hide]
Post Comment
Exit 191
United States
Buckeye
Arizona
flag msg tools
The five noble animals - camel, horse, ram, goat (played by moose), cow
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Man that is the first time I have laughed out loud at something on the internet. I think I might have gone to school with a few of these people, or maybe their parents.
11 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Sep 9, 2008 8:39 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
John Laslo
United States

Pennsylvania
Quote:
You're right. It's not new, though. I used to hide the fact that I read books and would intentionally pretend I didn't know the answer to the (junior high) teachers' questions in class just for that same reason. Isn't that dumb?


Nope, I did it too. Answer too many questions and you're begging for having your lunch money stolen.

Awesome list though.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:44 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Christopher
Belgium
De Panne
Bachten de Kupe
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
a pity I cannot add an item to this list.

I found these nice bloopers on 'Germany during WWII':
Quote:
* "As a result of hyperinflation the Reichsmack crashed." (3/2000) [Thus: never overinflate your truck's tires. I wonder whether it hit any of those people pushing wheelbarrows of money?]
* On Holocaust historian Herbert Steinhouse's analysis of the veracity of the film Schindler's List: "Since Steinhouse's mother was a causality of the Nazi regime, he found little comfort or truth in a 'good German tale'." (3/2000) Maybe: casualty? (spell check gone wild?) Another:
* "In the Nuremberg Trials the top Nazi officials responsible for 6 million Jewish causalities are put to death or imprisoned." [Poor Nazis--the Jews still causing problems for them.]
* "During and after the war the Germans were considered a plight on humanity."
* "Hitler was a war-mongrel who was also a racist and known for starting World War II and the Holocaust." [Imagine if he had been a pure-bred pitbull.]
* "The Jews were Hitler's escapegoats." [from a German student whose English was pretty good, but obviously not perfect]
* "As the Nazis launched their champagne against the Jews, there were those who helped the Jews escape prosecution." (5/04) [Nothing like a little alcohol to distract a lawyer.]
* "Hans Frank ... created the ever-so-popular myth that Hitler was a descendant of a Jew, who had philanthropies with his grandmother in 1836." (2/08)[charitable chap, old granddad]
* "One story in Hans Frank's death row memoir is the popular myth that Hitler was a descendant of a Jew, who had sex escapades with his grandmother in 1836." (3/08)[as if there weren't enough Aryan Brunhildes around for Jews to seduce]


credit goes to =Harold Marcuse (professor of German history at UC Santa Barbara)
(there are more of them where that came from...)
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Sep 12, 2008 10:48 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Greg Reimann
United States
Waltham
Massachusetts
mbmbmbmbmb
jonb wrote:
Having a culture that respects education and the intellect would be helpful as well. That does not seem to be the case these days. To be bright and intellectual in this country all too frequently results in someone being the butt of ridicule amongst his/her peers. Kids would rather be seen as just about anything other than smart, or intellectual, because those traits are not necessarily respected or approved of in their peer groups.


I think you've hit on some truth here. I generally wasn't ridiculed, but I wasn't challenged either.

I'm no educational expert, but I did go to a lot of different kinds of schools: Private, "Fundamental," Public, and Magnet.

What I found was that the effectiveness of the school had little to do with the quality of the teacher, the size of the classroom, or the teaching styles used. Yes those things help, but the real measure of the effectiveness of my learning experiences was the quality of the other kids.

A kid in school has little incentive to push himself very far beyond the average, and if a group of kids is disruptive or uncooperative, it can ruin an experience for everyone.

If MScrivner tried his experiment in my public high school:
Quote:
What we should really be doing is handing out hammers and saying - go build a treehouse. Doing so teaches not just about hammers, but about a million other things, and because the learning has been made practical and meaningful, there is joy in the act of learning.

It would have been a magnificent failure, as the top kids would never finish their treehouses because they would be to busy dodging the hammers thrown by the bottom kids.

(This may sound extreme, but I was in at least one class where getting hit with a flying stapler while trying to learn German was a real concern.)

The hammer experiment would have been GREAT in my private or magnet schools though!

How do you correct this problem? The trend seems to be against sending troublesome students to sub-seperate classrooms, following the argument that the bright motivated students can "bring them along." However, even if they are brought up to speed (and I'd like to see some data supporting this), they bring the top students down and we graduate classes of mediocrity.

Facing this problem, parents who value education will either homeshool their children or send them to private school thereby removing the kids who are supposed to be bringing the troublemakers along and lowering the standards further.

I don't claim to have a solution. I don't want to see kids get written off (the troublemakers), but I don't want to see a great intellectual divide between those who can afford private school and those that cannnot. When I went to college, I could already see the beginnings of this divide.

I do think that we need to think hard as a nation to decide whether its the role of the public schools to try to bring up the lower end at the price of mediocrity or push the high and middle to achieve at the expense "leaving some children behind." Both goals are laudable, but achieving both is REALLY difficult.

In the meantime, I'll be relocating to a good school district or sending my children to private schools, not because the teachers are better or the classes are smaller or the schools have more money, but because the parents MSchrivner mentioned who value education enough to pay for it will beget children who value it enough to embrace it and raise the bar for mine.

Whoa! Sorry about the long non-boardgame post! I just think its a really important and difficult topic that merits discussion.
5 
 Thumb up
0.01
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Sat Sep 13, 2008 5:43 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Calavera Hermosa
United States
Tucson
Arizona
flag msg tools
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
theredwagoneer wrote:
If MScrivner tried his experiment in my public high school:
Quote:
What we should really be doing is handing out hammers and saying - go build a treehouse. Doing so teaches not just about hammers, but about a million other things, and because the learning has been made practical and meaningful, there is joy in the act of learning.

It would have been a magnificent failure, as the top kids would never finish their treehouses because they would be to busy dodging the hammers thrown by the bottom kids.

...

In the meantime, I'll be relocating to a good school district or sending my children to private schools, not because the teachers are better or the classes are smaller or the schools have more money, but because the parents MScrivner mentioned who value education enough to pay for it will beget children who value it enough to embrace it and raise the bar for mine.


This is all, sadly, very true, and I want to acknowledge those many points RedWagoneer made before I respond. There is a kind of tyranny of the minority against the majority that occurs. We spend more money, time, and energy on the few screw-ups often at the expense of majority of regular kids who just want to learn.

However, my post was intended more to address the broken pedagogical philosophy that is affecting ALL students, rich and poor. But I agree, there are schools where teachers have to spend more time managing behavior (ie: preventing hammer throwing) than actually teaching. I know I am fortunate in that teach in a moderately affluent school (a balanced mix of upper middle, middle, and lower class), and consequently, I have fewer behavior issues, and a population of students who will, as an example, actually do their homework.

But first I would argue that the difference between the kids who want treehouses and the kids who throw hammers is endemic of a much wider cultural problem, which was the point already made. To reiterate: we, as a culture, do not value learning, intellect, or its fruits. As a result, the parents of the hammer throwers can never transmit those values.

One of the reasons why I run a gaming club at school and play boardgames with kids is that I believe boardgaming is an opportunity to transmit such values. (I even wrote an article on this exact idea a few months back - shameless plug here.)

I do want to point out though, that the kind of students RedWagoneer wants to send his kids to school with come with their own set of problems and difficulties that in my mind actually impede learning more than they help it, potentially more so than the hammerthrowers.

Specifically, affluent kids have
1) a gigantic sense of entitlement--they all think they deserve A's whether they earn them or not.

2) They have a materialistic, closed-minded, and horrifically myopic world view, one that is difficult to overcome in the process of learning (and I teach World Lit, which means I am constantly encountering and thus countering such examples.) Some actual quotes:
"you mean there are actually countries where people don't have the internet?"
"If everybody in the world would just believe in Jesus, there wouldn't be any reason for us to invade other countries."
"Well maybe if minorities were more like white people and worked harder than they wouldn't be poor."

3) They have a kind of academic apathy that poor kids do not ("math sucks. I hate to read. Can we watch a movie?") Yes, they will do their homework, but they care a helluva lot more about feeding their need to be entertained.

4) The kids who come from such families are also the kids with the iPods permanently in their ears, the cellphone buttons blistering their thumbs, and the general attitude of indifference and boredom toward academic content. They are kids who are experts at creating a "bubble of preference," and real learning (learning that is challenging and difficult and meaningful) tends to impede on that bubble of preference. (If you are going to build a tree house, you are going to get sweaty, dirty, and tired, and the last thing these kids want is to be sweaty, dirty and tired.)

5) Consequently, affluent kids can also be rude and nasty, but in a passive-aggressive way rather than an overtly aggressive way. Sometimes I wish I had hammer throwers in my room, because then, at least, I could dodge the hammers.

Yeah, there are hooligans and troublemakers in poor schools, but to be frank, in the past ten years schools (even the poorest of them) have gotten damn good at cracking down on "hammer throwers." That means, regardless of how the media depicts public schools, the actual data is that public schools from all ends of the socio-economic spectrum are safer than they've ever been. In my own district, the most effective schools, the ones doing the best teaching and where the kids are learning the most are not (sadly) the affluent ones, but the poor ones, since the teachers that teach there tend to be more committed than most, and the poor kids, once they stop trying to hit each other with their hammers see the learning for the opportunity it really is, and because they have no sense of entitlement, (or no iPod to block out the outside world) they begin to really appreciate it.

Before you write off your neighborhood school and move away because it looks shabby on the outside, or there are are lot of kids attending it that don't share your ethnicity, I would recommend you tour it, talk to teachers and administrators, look at curriculum (which is increasingly available on the internet.) I think you might be surprised at just what a fantastic job those schools are now doing. And your kid will be going to a place where the diversity of student population actually matches the real world. Sheltering your kid just screws him up further. That doesn't mean put your kid in a dangerous situation, it just means, you can't take your own past experience, or what the newspapers tell you as the basis for whether or not your kid will be safe, happy, and well educated in your local neighborhood school.

[edit: various typos... yes, even writing teachers make them]
10 
 Thumb up
0.30
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Edited Sat Sep 13, 2008 8:01 pm
  • Posted Sat Sep 13, 2008 7:56 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Front Page | Welcome | Contact | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertise | Support BGG | Feeds RSS
Geekdo, BoardGameGeek, the Geekdo logo, and the BoardGameGeek logo are trademarks of BoardGameGeek, LLC.