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This list is where Patrons sign up and track progress in the Campaign to make the Rules Folders more useful (the primary campaign discussion thread is here, and the thread for individual participation is here). Patrons will take responsibility for cleaning up specific game folders, and will use their entries in this list to maintain records of what they've accomplished.

IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ADDING ANY GAME TO THIS LIST
Adding a game to this list represents a commitment to become a Patron for that game. By becoming a Patron, you commit to go through that games Rules Folder, send GeekMails to the original posters of threads that have non-descriptive titles, suggest names that would be more appropriate, and pay a 1 GeekGold award to each user who cooperates and responds to one of your requests (if you can't afford to do this, please just lend your moral support). Patrons also agree to list their successful conversions, using the format I've used in the initial post for Defenders of the Realm.

Patrons also agree to conduct themselves in a friendly and helpful manner. We are shepherds, not policemen. Nobody is obligated to comply with our requests - they do so of their own free well. Patrons will not get into arguments with thread owners, nor will they represent themselves in anything but a positive fashion. Remember that the people we contact are the people we hope to serve.

If you can agree to all that, you're Patron material. I'm sure you'll find it very rewarding, but bear in mind that it is also a responsibility and a commitment. Please be sure you're ready to follow through before you sign on.

Selecting your game
The first step is to look in the list and see if your game has already been selected (threads are ordered alphabetically to make that easy). Most games have a manageable number of threads for a single Patron to handle - DotR, which I used to test the method, had 169 rules threads, and I issued 19 requests, which gives you an idea.

Game with huge numbers of threads
Some games have huge numbers of threads, and would require too much time, and too much Geek Gold paid out in rewards, for any single Patron to take on solo. In such cases, we multiple Patrons can select the same game, and be responsible for a subset of that games Rules Question Threads. Since it has already been discussed, I'll use Arkham Horror as an example.

Go to the Arkham Horror game page, click Browse in the Forums section, and you'll see that the Rules folder has 1481 threads (as of this writing). That is too much for one Patron. The folder grows continuously at the new end, so we will take it on starting at the old end and working back to front. We will use the creation dates of the threads to delineate the working areas for Patrons. The threads are presented 50 at a time, with the last page containing any fraction (1 to 50 threads), so using my DotR numbers as a rule of thumb, 4 pages seems reasonable. (We can't go by page numbers, because what's on page 30 today may be on page 31 tomorrow, but it's a useful way to estimate what you'll tackle.).

There are currently 30 pages, so click the last page, then from there work back to page 27, and note that the first thread on that page is dated Feb. 1, 2007, so as the first Patron for Arkham Horror, I would note that I am taking on all threads posted on or before that date, and invite more patrons to join. The next Patron might accept the block posted between Feb. 1, 2007 and Mar. 27, 2008, and so on (see "Formatting your game item listing", below). The final Patron for this game would take everything after the penultimate Patron's block, and would include new threads going forward.

Don't take on too large a block initially! Nothing prevents the same Patron from taking on a block, then taking on a second one upon completion of the first. 2 or 3 Patrons might leapfrog through a big game like that, one chunk at a time.

Transferring your game
No matter how good our intentions, the time will come when a Patron can no longer maintain that game. When that time comes, please announce it and contact me (or whoever may have taken my place by that time), so we can find a new Patron, who would take over responsibility and continue the work for that game. I would even encourage people who want a particular game, and see it already taken, to comment that you would be available should the post ever become available.

Formatting your game item listing
Feel free to add personal touches, but please include the following info in your listing:
The number of requests you've sent
The number of changes that have been implemented
A list of the specific changes (formatted as in my Defenders of the Realm entry - see here

Also, if you're working on a block of threads for a game that requires multiple patrons, list the start and end creation dates for the block of threads you're working on.

Sending requests for title changes
Patrons may want to write GeekMails individually, but having a template to work from can make the job easier. Here's a possible format (change parentheses to square braces for thread link, customize names, change blah blahs as appropriate):


Subject: Rules question thread

Hi thread_owner,

I'm working for the Campaign to make the Rules Folders more useful. Many rules question threads have generic titles that give no hint as to their content, which in turn makes it harder for people to search for answers.

I happened to notice (url=)this thread(/url) of yours, titled blah blah. I think blah blah would be a better name for it, but feel free to word it differently so long as it achieves the purpose of making its contents clear.

It's quite simple to change the title; just follow the link and edit your initial post. If you'd be willing to do that, I'll give you 1 geek gold in token of appreciation. More importantly, you'll be helping others who have questions in the future to find answers more easily.

Regards,
patron_name


Rewarding users who change their thread titles
When somebody responds positively, please use the link (which you've hopefully saved) to visit the thread, verify the change, and tip the initial post with 1 Geek Gold. Tipping there rather than through a user's profile makes it easier to verify that they received their reward. Also, update your listing accordingly (use the same format as in my DotR entry). You needn't do that with each success individually;, feel free to add 5 or 10 at a time in blocks, so that doesn't become a chore, but be sure to get it posted in the end. We want to see what we've accomplished, and where.

If you've read this far, and want to sign up, I'd like to congratulate you. Together we truly will make BGG a better resource for everyone!
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26. Board Game: A Game of Thrones [Average Rating:7.44 Overall Rank:112]
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Update: after a looong while (I blame Essen Spiel), I'm back on track with sending out GeekMails and marking my progress in the sheet.

I will have more updates in the format requested by Sphere soon!
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Nobody taking that classic on? Well, sounds like a job for me ;D

(14 pages of 'Rules' in the Forums there... bring it on!)

Great idea, Sphere!
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To keep track of my progress, I put together a doc online. If you like my concatenation trick (to speed up generating messages), feel free to make a copy and edit accordingly ;-)

https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0ArayHrsw9WTDdDk0SjY...
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I hope you'll put links and totals in your geeklist entry once you get some changes. It takes time to go through the whole list to monitor and count totals, and the standard format makes that much easier for me.
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Absolutely. I just wanted to make the process of generating +100 messages a bit less sanity-snatching ;-)
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Very nice, and almost identical to mine (although it's in Excel on my hard drive)! If I hadn't done this I wouldn't even know what thread was missing after the OP had deleted it after I sent him a message...
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27. Board Game: Gang of Four [Average Rating:6.62 Overall Rank:833]
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So I've hit 50% success rate on Roborally, and set things in motion for Scepter of Zavandor. Time to take another game under my wing! I'm ashamed to admit it, but the truth is I fled in terror from the Dune and Dominion forums. However, Gang of Four seems to need improvement, yet be within the scope of my abilities. So it's on!
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28. Board Game: Ghost Stories [Average Rating:7.39 Overall Rank:125]
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This has been done before but definitely needed a relaunch...
I might have to fight luke over it but i'll take ghost stories and all expansions
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29. Board Game: Glen More [Average Rating:7.39 Overall Rank:153]
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I'm the patron for Glen More.

Requests issued: 9
Replies received: 8
Changes made / Awards paid: 7
Changes pending: 1 (user loves the idea; currently on vacation).

User: Ontguy
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New: Does Castle Mey Double Chieftans Counted or Victory Points Received?

User: Pallet Ranger
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New: Loch Oich - Does it activate tiles twice?


User: Chris Baylis
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User: twthomas
Old: After first play a few questions.
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User: jansenstelau
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New: What Happens if I Can't Place a Tile? Can I Remove My Last Clanmember?

User: pauljackson
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30. Board Game: Glenn Drover's Empires: The Age of Discovery [Average Rating:7.69 Overall Rank:48]
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Someone stole adopted Endeavor already, so I will volunteer to take this game, which I also love!

I really appreciate the initiative, sphere, and will do my best to help out!

Requests Made: 4
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User: nonnymouse
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User: ilgoga
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Good work Derry, and to the two Davids (just below for Agricola and American Megafauna) as well. After changing the list to alphabetic listing, I was hoping the first entries would fill in quickly with good examples, and that's exactly what has happened. I think it's especially important in these positions, because they are the first entries seen by new readers of the list.
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31. Board Game: Glory to Rome [Average Rating:7.56 Overall Rank:75]
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I call Patron.

Update: 8 e-mails sent, 1 response. (As of 4/28/11)

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Old Title: Just to make sure...
New Title: Can the pool get really big?

On a side note, I'd like to nominate fardoche for some sort of award. I sent the e-mail about his thread first and it was fixed by the time I sent the second e-mail.
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Bah, I just saw this today and my favorite game is taken!

Guess I will think. (And good luck to you!)
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  • Posted Wed Apr 20, 2011 3:14 pm
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Sorry to steal this one - I couldn't resist the joke.
 
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  • Posted Fri Apr 29, 2011 1:03 am
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32. Board Game: Goa [Average Rating:7.76 Overall Rank:30]
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I've been keeping an eye on the Goa Rules Folder for quite a while, as the author of the Goa FAQ. I expect if the long awaited re-print ever comes to fruition, then it'll become all the more active.

I'm happy to formalise the arrangement if everyone else is.

Somehow I managed to post this as a Comment, rather than a Geeklist Item, the first time round. I am competent, honest!
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33. Board Game: Hammer of the Scots [Average Rating:7.65 Overall Rank:94]
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I'll take this one on.

Requests Made: 1 for 1
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Figured I'd clean up my act first. Wonder if I can tip myself?
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gbaker59 wrote:
Figured I'd clean up my act first. Wonder if I can tip myself?

Post corrections to your own threads on the Individual Participation thread, and I'll tip you. Put the changes that you convince others to make here.

(Good to see you here - this is a great game, and I'm glad to see it has a patron.)
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34. Board Game: Hansa Teutonica [Average Rating:7.69 Overall Rank:51]
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I am happy to take this game. Will get started this week.

6/28/11: 8 of 9 updated already

User: eekamouse
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User: Blue Steel
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User: trenttsd
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User: ohbalto
Old: A Couple Questions
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User: N9IWP
Old: A few rules questions.
New: Questions on Armhiem and Stendal connection, Swap Bonus Marker, use of Merchants and scoring of gold coin Offices

User: zollom04
Old: Is it possible?
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User: Torselli
Old: Too Powerful?
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User: hansafan
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Wow, talk about a fast start! Welcome aboard, KAS.
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  • Posted Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:29 pm
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Memo to zollom04:

I'm very pleased that Kneumann has chosen to give his time and energy to help make BGG a better place for all of us.
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  • Posted Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:33 pm
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Gotta love that thread's title though, one of the most interesting for this project so far!
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  • Posted Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:48 pm
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Gotta love that thread's title though, one of the most interesting for this project so far!
Although it was not exactly what I was looking for, I must admit it is better than the original title
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35. Board Game: Here I Stand [Average Rating:8.10 Overall Rank:36]
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Okay, with some trepidation, I think I'll take this on, since I subscribe to this page anyway. 56 pages of rules questions... No promises on speed!

Fifteen geekmails sent, and seven changed (actually many of the rules questions subject lines are very good).

Protestant rules questions (Home Card, Calais, Eck, unrest, Schmalkaldic League), Hostile landing question

LOC Tracing Supply and Treachery

Activating minor power; winter phase; war loser retrieving leader

VP w/less than 6 players, Protestant Troops & Political Control, Winter Movement, Key & Fortress Questions

Burn Books, Excom & Debator bonuses

Cards questions: Landsknechts, Akinji, City State Rebels, Foreign Recruits

Questions on: captured rulers; rebuilding minor country units; Protestant troops and electorates; using just-built units; Reformation/Counter-reformation bonuses and besieged troops; piracy targeting; Leipzig Debate; Andrea Doria; John Zapolya; Scots Raid

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36. Board Game: High Frontier [Average Rating:7.53 Overall Rank:414]
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State of play 11 February 2012

Update definitely overdue!

As before, thanks to everyone who has helped out and been so good humoured about my suggestions.

Suggestions sent: 24
Replies received: 9
Changes made and GGed: 14

User: tedhkim
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New: Space Ventures, Space Elevator and trading crew

User: am12rose
Old: Some Newbie Questions
New: Some Newbie Questions About Stacks, Decommissioning and Colonies

User: byteknight
Old: Some dumb questions
New: Questions about turning at Lagrange points, outpost stacks and factory stacks

User: abrocker
Old: Decommissioning crew
New: Decommissioning crew and return trips to the Moon with base NASA crew card

User: ASFalcon13
Old: Crew Questions
New: Rescuing Stranded Crew Without Rescue Pods

User: Klintus Fang
Old: Questions about the solo game
New: Is the Solo Game Too Random? (seems to play like a game of craps rather than a space epic)

User: tavlas
Old: 2 questions
New: Building rockets anywhere? More than one crew card?

User: David Ells
Old: Questions & meta-questions
New: Boosting 0 mass cards to LEO? Prospecting and decommissioning rules questions

User: Troymk1
Old: Let’s see if I undertand this. (and possible startegy tip)
New: Decommissioning an upgraded robonaut: what can I do with the card?

User: dbarree
Old: "Example Expanded Game Question"
New: Expanded Game Example: Card Acquisition/Boost Discrepancy

User: noahv
Old: "Basic Movement Question"
New: Basic Movement Question: how many spaces can you travel in a single movement turn?

User: committed hero
Old: "My crewmen are idiots"
New: My crewmen are idiots - does every rocket need them?

User: ricottma
Old: "Probibly a dumb question ..."
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User: Tsaar
Old: "Living rules"
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Upon notification, I edited the topic description and changed to that listed above. Great idea for the forums, I'll keep this in mind whenever I post new threads here.
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Thanks for updating, David. I appreciate it.
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37. Board Game: Homesteaders [Average Rating:7.48 Overall Rank:190]
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I'll keep an eye on the rules forum here too.
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38. Board Game: Ikusa [Average Rating:7.05 Overall Rank:326]
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Although I know it by the old title Shogun, I'll take on patronage for these rules, especially if I can help out those misguided players who levy more than one troop per province and beef up their armies incorrectly.

Requests issued: 18
Changes made / Awards paid: 14

user: Krieghund
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user: BaSL
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new: Are there explicit rules on diplomacy?
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user: Paschae
old: Waiting on a copy, any suggestions
new: Strategy and rules to stress before playing game for first time
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user:ItaliaSPQR
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new: Can a lone spearmen attack an adjacent province?
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user: Momoshiro
old: Armies & Garrisons in Shogun
new: Armies & Garrisons in Shogun
(via geekmail with the OP, we agreed this title seems okay since the thread does concern this whole rule topic)
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user: Ke7in11
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new: With how many dice and in what order do attackers and defenders make combat rolls?
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user: KingAnus3 (an intimidating username!)
old: Army movement/ Unit movement
new: Can you always move in and out units from your armies?
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user: warlin
old: Army move rules?
new: How does daimyo experience relate to army moves?
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user: vw claymore
old: Another army movement/battle question.
new: Can an experienced daimyo's army move into friendly provinces between battles?
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user: hidalgo
old: Rules question on two-player game
new: In a two player game, can one faction be moved through another faction's province?


user: Polish5
old: The New rule book of IKUSA.
new: Is the new rule book a re-working of the original game rules?

user: Keith Schleicher
old: Turn Order
new: Does winning the bid for turn order mean you can choose first to last for yourself?


user: JJRambo
old: Army Attack and Battle question
new: Can multiple armies attack from same province and at the same time?

user: chaosyntax
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That seems to be all the users who have responded; the rest have not logged in for a year or so.
If you are one of these users, see this message, and make some changes, I will send you thanks (and ).
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Four already. Good work, Andrew.
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Excellent, and it has reminded me to check up on a game--thank you!

Edit for spelling
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With the advent of the Ikusa edition within the Shogun/Samurai Swords umbrella, six more games questioneers have been contacted to change their thread titles.
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This definitely helps out when scanning the rules forum. thumbsup
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I'm very happy to see the update, Andrew. It's been too long since we've seen any action on this list. Maybe you'll inspire the others!
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39. Board Game: In the Year of the Dragon [Average Rating:7.49 Overall Rank:97]
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I'll take this one as well: this is after all one of my 2 only 10's.


UPDATE: 13-Mar-11
Easier than I thought: YotD players behave well in this matter.
There are only 3 threads needing a [minor] correction.
All users have been contacted; all corrections have bee applied.

User: Palpatine
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New: Are privileges discarded after scoring?

User: rodspade
Old: Limited supplies
New: Are supplies limited?

User: Sutured
Old: What do you do when …?
New: What do you do when the last 2 events are the same?

The job's done: I was already subscribed to the game, so will ongoing keep an eye on this.
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I'm not comfortable seeing a listing for a user who has been contacted but has not yet agreed to participate. We don't want anyone to feel like we're pressuring them unduly, or singling them out for non-compliance. Let's just stick to enumerating the successes. I think that's a more positive approach, and will serve us better long term.
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Sphere wrote:
I'm not comfortable seeing a listing for a user who has been contacted but has not yet agreed to participate. We don't want anyone to feel like we're pressuring them unduly, or singling them out for non-compliance. Let's just stick to enumerating the successes. I think that's a more positive approach, and will serve us better long term.

Makes sense, makes live a bit more difficult on my end as I will need to track seperately what is happening
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40. Board Game: Indonesia [Average Rating:7.76 Overall Rank:95]
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When pressed, I declare this to be my favorite game. Thus, I must adopt it. There are only about a dozen half a dozen threads that look like they need fixed, so 1 GG each won't be a problem.

7 e-mails sent as of 3/21/11.

5 fixes so far:

user: dakarp
thread: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/108949/example-in-rules-...
old name: Some more Indonesia Rules Questions
new name: Example in Rules, Moving Goods within Plantations

user: TGov
thread: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/337294/10-on-player-aid-...
old name: Guess What? I have some rules questions!
new name: 10 on Player Aid, Tracking Shipping Companies

user: arruga
thread: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/168229/moving-goods-with...
old name: Questions and Misunderstandings
new name: Moving goods within a plantation, Using up plantation tiles.

user: facesnorth (two threads)
thread: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/160714/siap-faji-one-pla...
old name: some rules questions
new name: Siap Faji - one plantation removed? Shipping Mergers?

thread: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/312965/rules-examples-si...
old name: Various rules questions for Jeroen or experienced players
new name: Rules examples, Siap Faji mergers and tile removal, Two ships in one space
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So, I've really only been looking at threads with titles like "Some rules Questions", and leaving alone things with ok titles like "Bidding Turn Order" or "Merging two of your own companies", because I usually find those helpful. As you can see, my suggested changed titles don't spell out the complete question either. Should I make another pass through to try and get very specific titles? Or adopt another game and try to get it to at least "acceptable"?
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Should I make another pass through to try and get very specific titles? Or adopt another game and try to get it to at least "acceptable"?

My strong preference is for the latter. We get more bang for the buck eliminating a totally useless title than tweaking a reasonably useful one, plus we avoid the risk of being seen as nitpicky.
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41. Board Game: IRONDIE [Average Rating:6.74 Overall Rank:3078]
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I'll start off with some low-hanging fruit. I'm short on geek gold right now, so one of the smaller rules forums for now.

Requests Issued: 7
Changes Made: 2

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user: Blue Steel
old: Another Potential Defect of the Game?
new: Possible Configurations Leading to Perpetual Games?

user: Blue Steel
old: Quick Questions About the 1 Rule
new: Must Boost Opponent's Die with the 1 Rule if No Valid Targets?

Some of the users haven't logged in in 4-5 months, so I'm not too hopeful on a couple of these.
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Don't worry too much about the gold. I'm pretty prompt about reimbursing people when they post links to document changes made.
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42. Board Game: JAB: Realtime Boxing [Average Rating:6.92 Overall Rank:1005]
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43. Board Game: Kingmaker [Average Rating:6.38 Overall Rank:1132]
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I'll do this one, too.

Four emails sent.

Changes:
Questions about Optional Parliament, and relationship between ship cards and ship counters in port
Constable of the Tower, Captain of Calais, & Lt. of Ireland offices
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Thanks for your efforts, Wendell.

Edit: Oops ... Long Live Kingmaker!
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44. Board Game: Louis XIV [Average Rating:7.21 Overall Rank:207]
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I'll be the patron for Louis XIV.

5 requests sent
4 - successfully responded
1 - no response thus far

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Successes!

User: ekted
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New: Mission Card which allows placing 4 influence markers. Can you jump to 3 other tiles?

User: drewchap
Old: Gold Cards
New: When are the gold cards shuffled?

User ekted
Old: 2-player rules
New: If the Dummy wins...is 2nd place rewarded?...can you bribe?...plus a few other questions

User: Rob March
Old: Gold Cards Question
New: How are the Gold Cards dealt at the beginning of the game?
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45. Board Game: Mage Knight Dungeons [Average Rating:6.61 Overall Rank:1340]
Kyle W.
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I'll take care of Mage Knight Dungeons, and will also keep an eye on both standard Mage Knight and Mage Knight Conquest.

Dungeons had two threads that could use an adjustment. Standard MK was good, and Conquest has nothing at all.


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2 Requests sent, 2 Responses (100%)
(As of March 15th, 2011)


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Old: "Some Rules Questions"
New: "Counterattack Abilities, Multiple-Healing, Charge/Bound, and Free Spins"

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Old: "Rules Ambiguity/Confusion"
New: "Double Traps, Sweep and Counterattacks, Critical Misses, and Healing"
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Great start, Kyle. I'd appreciate it if you would award the 1 GG by tipping the first post in the thread in future, rather than directly to the user. (Verifying payment takes three additional clicks/page loads with.the direct to user method.)
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Will do - I must have missed that part in the header, but I'll be sure to tip the threads directly for any other responses I get.
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46. Board Game: Mare Nostrum [Average Rating:6.81 Overall Rank:529]
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One of my favourites - an easy choice. Logically, I will adopt the Mare Nostrum: Mythology Expansion as well. It's a great idea.
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47. Board Game: Merchants & Marauders [Average Rating:7.65 Overall Rank:73]
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Fantastic idea, Sphere.

I can get started on this gem of a game. Lord knows I'm in the forums often enough as it is. Might as well help tidy up the Rules Forum for the next wave of players! Maybe help break the never-ending 'Frigate vs. Galleon' cycle, too! whistle

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Status (as of April 12th):
Requests Sent: 21
Changes Made/Tipped: 15

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User: aladdinsdad
Old: Repairs
New Repairing your ship back to its nominal "strength"
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User: Barliman71
Old: Reinforced Hull and Crew Combat
New: Can Reinforced Hull be used during Crew Combat?
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User: Barliman71
Old: Clemency and NPC scouting
New: Clemency Event Card: Can you pay to remove a Nation's bounty before being scouted by their Naval Ship?
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User: Astrosmurf
Old: Are players Naval Ships?
New: Are player ships classified as Naval Ships?
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User: ironJames
Old: Ship mod redistribution
New: Redistributing Ship Modifications: When selling my ship, can I place a ship mod token in the port I’m at?
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User: Bridger
Old: NPC Movement…
New: NPC Movement: Do they only move in 4 directions?
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User: Madazam
Old: two questions
New: Two Questions: Can I sell more than one good in demand? Can I stash more than 50 gold?
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User: Mirrordude
Old: A fantastic session and a couple of rules questions
New: A fantastic session! Two questions: Are ship mods revealed to everyone? Should NPC naval ships scout NPC pirates?
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User: Eisley
Old: A few rules questions
New: Multiple Questions regarding: Fleeing; Special Weapons; Ship Upgrades & Boarding
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User: ecraven
Old: glory for rumors
New: When do you get a Glory Point for proving a Rumor?
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User: TheRealKid
Old: First Questions after playing the hole day
New: Questions about Scouting Naval Ships & Receiving Bounties; Cargo card purchasing clarification
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User: TheRealKid
Old: Captain Powers
New: Need clarification with van Avezaath's "Cargo Bonus' & Alexandre Villon's "May Enter Any Port" ability
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User: FreMako
Old: Two Little Questions
New: Two Port Questions: When at port, am I subject to Hunt Priority? Does War or a Bounty push me out of a port I’m in?
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User: Arcturus2006
Old: A Few Questions…
New: A few questions regarding reinforced hull modification, capturing ships & redsitributing ship mods.
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User: nobix
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This is a game where I've spent a lot of time in the folders. You're already a big help there, Jakob, and you're a great choice to be the M&M Patron.
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Yeargh! I was looking to adopt another game and you beat me to this one. Nice job!
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48. Board Game: Middle-Earth Quest [Average Rating:7.45 Overall Rank:184]
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Progress 3 out of 21 thread titles changed

I think this is a most excellent initiative!

I'll take on this game.
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Double good - I'm plannng on learning this in the very near future.
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Sphere wrote:
Double good - I'm plannng on learning this in the very near future.
Good game. Lot of things to learn but then it flows, best with 3 players (otherwise there's too much dead time), hard to win as heroes. But it is good enough to get you try again when you loose.
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Looks like you're off to a great start, Jeroen. If you find the time, I'd appreciate it if you'd list the individual changes in the standard format. I'm trying to click through and have a peek at what's happening, in the beginning at least.
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49. Board Game: Mr. Jack [Average Rating:7.23 Overall Rank:171]
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I'd love to see those 8 changes documented. I'll throw some more geek gold your way as soon as you find time to list them.
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50. Board Game: Mystery of the Abbey [Average Rating:6.56 Overall Rank:694]
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I finally decided upon a game to help out on, this is the first game I bought after finding out that there were more games than Catan! Loved by me and my brothers, hard to get to the table otherwise.

After taking a quick more thorough look at the rules forum here are some stats:
54 53 threads in all (see below)
37 threads that need editing
2 threads that are not questions
1 thread whose original post has been deleted
1 thread which has been deleted after the program began

status (27th of June):
- threads reviewed: 54/54 53/53 (one has been deleted by the poster after I sent the geekmail)
- change requests sent: 37
- titles changed: 15 (41%)
-11 posters haven't logged in this year so I don't expect them to answer

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User: itiriktari
Old: Close encounters of a religius kind
New: Do you have to ask questions aloud even there are only two players in the same room?
My mistake: Yes, even after Sphere mentioned a spelling error in one of his own suggestions, I managed to mess it up myself!

User: eafish
Old: always ask?
New: Always ask a question when another player is in the same room? [answer: yes]

User: Narlgoth
Old: Moving in a 6 Player Game
New: How Many Spaces Can You Move in a 6 Player Game?

User: Iorwerth
Old: Revelations
New: Are revelations public or secret? [answer: public]

User: swedgamer
Old: Have you been in my cell?
New: Does answering truthfully that you've been in a player's cell invoke the Penance

User: Strike
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New: Discard a Scriptorium card after using it?
p.s. Strike generously declined a reward for his editing:
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...do not feel it necessary for you to 'pay' me for that. I too am a BGG fan and whatever I can do to make our gaming experiences more beneficial and fun; so be it!


User: bard
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New: Limit on how many Scriptorium cards are played in a turn? [answer: no limit]

User: tempus42
Old: Player errors?
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User: HappyProle
Old: Book of High Magic Scriptorium Card
New: Can you use the Book of High Magic card to plant player's pawns inside cells to be caught later? [answer: yes]

User: Reko
Old: Questions after giving a card away?
New: Is "I don't remember" a proper answer? [answer: yes]

User: jar011
Old: Potentially Stupid Question on "Questioning Others" Rule
New: Can you ask questions with more than one characteristic? [answer: yes]

User: Arvias
Old: The Questioning!
New: The Questioning: Examples of proper questions.
p.s. Arvias generously declined a reward for his editing:
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I don't need the gold, I done the Edit because I see reason in the act


User: raddevon
Old: Secret Journal of the Abbot clarification
New: What cards to shuffle after using the Secret Journal of the Abbot card?

User: Neithan
Old: Crypt cards?
New: Are the Crypt cards discarded after being played? [answer: returned to the deck]
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40/54 needing correction, wow, that's a very high percentage!
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Well, it was a quick look, might be lower!

But 6 messages sent now, will continue later.

p.s. copied your format in the item above, Christopher, it looked smart.
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Hey, this was extra nice news - my tip to itiriktari was the first he's earned on BGG!
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Well, seems like things are slowing down in this forum after the initial activity, no changes in the past three days. I'll take a look at some other game soon to keep me in practice!
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Xelforp wrote:
Well, seems like things are slowing down in this forum after the initial activity, no changes in the past three days. I'll take a look at some other game soon to keep me in practice!


And then I get two replies of course!

edit: And what's even more fun - I got to play it on Friday! Yay Although the newbie won in Mass #3 by what we'd like to think of as wild guessing!
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Yay, after all this time I get a positive message from a user that hadn't logged in for over 200 days! Never loose hope!
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This is great. I will adopt a game in a few weeks when I have a bit more time on my hands. I've got a few in mind, but I'll let the zealous have first dibs and pick over the scraps (hopefully) when I'm ready to help.

I pity the fool who adopts War of the Ring! surprise

Edit: Ah hell, I'll just do it now and call it "productive procrastination".
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In case anyone else is thinking of emailing me to accuse me of complete inactivity with my adopted games let me clarify. I will not post every thread that I ask to be changed in this geeklist. I just don't see the point in it for myself. If the OP wants that to happen he can request it from me but to everyone else, rest assured I am sending emails and have had many threads changed (and a few declined).

 
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kvenosdel wrote:
In case anyone else is thinking of emailing me to accuse me of complete inactivity with my adopted games let me clarify. I will not post every thread that I ask to be changed in this geeklist. I just don't see the point in it for myself. If the OP wants that to happen he can request it from me but to everyone else, rest assured I am sending emails and have had many threads changed (and a few declined).

First, I had no idea that anybody had been contacted privately about inactivity. I had discussed non-participation generally on the main campaign thread, but I didn't mention anyone specifically.

That said, I'm not sure why you have a problem with posting info about the conversions you've accomplished. If you will open the full block of comments above, and scroll back to my first March 6 post, you'll find that I gave a detailed explanation to somebody else as to why I feel I need this information.

I must also point out that the header of this list has a section with the following title in bold: IMPORTANT - PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING BEFORE ADDING ANY GAME TO THIS LIST. The final sentence in that paragraph reads as follows: "Patrons also agree to list their successful conversions, using the format I've used in the initial post for Defenders of the Realm."

If you want to work on getting game titles changed in your own fashion, that's great. But we are working as organization, with a standard operating procedure. If you're not willing to work within our guidelines, I'm confused as to why you signed up.

I'm committed to running this campaign with transparency and an easily verifiable record of changes made. If you effect changes, I salute you, but if you don't provide the data for those changes, I can't count them. I hope you'll reconsider, and work within the guidelines. We certainly need your help.
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Brian Schroth
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rrenaud wrote:
The BGG rules forum is really a bad mechanism for question/answering. A more wikipedia/stackoverflow style approach anyone can edit the question/propose an article be merged/deleted style is much better for the general usefulness of the questions through time. It also helps prevent all of the flaming/wasted effort with duplicate or near duplicate questions.

It's a damn shame that BGG has the right community for boardgame question answering, while the Boardgames Stackexchange has the right software.

Two points:

1) I think the Rules Folders are very useful, and have used them many times to aid me in learning new games. People can ask specific questions, and get help quickly. Many of us enjoy that format.

2) BGG has excellent software, which lets users deal with rules in various ways. It sounds like you're not aware of it, but BGG has full support for the wiki approach to rules questions. Have a look at the Eastfront collected rules threads wiki as an example.


BGG's software may be good, but it's nowhere near as good as StackExchange. Users can easily ask a question on stackexchange (it's just as easy as asking a question in a forum). But while the forum offers nothing else useful to rules questions except for thumbs, the entire StackExchange system is designed for that exact purpose and is optimized to make that process as effective as possible.
 
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  • Posted Tue Apr 5, 2011 1:25 am
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Here's the GoogleDoc that I use to keep track of my games for the Campaign. If anyone else finds it useful, feel free to Make a Copy for yourself.

First you will need to update the "Templates" tab with your name at the end of the GeekMail body (unless your name is also Steve). Then, all you need to do is, on the "Games" tab, put the game name in column A, then in columns D, E, F, and G you put information about the thread. The URL in column H will automatically update to give you a link to the thread. On the "GeekMails" tab, it will generate the info you need to paste into a GeekMail (To, Subject, and Message). Once you've sent the GeekMail, you can put an 'X' in column B (of the "GeekMails" tab), which will hide the message body, so you will only see unsent messages (this will also update the "Sent" column on the "Games" tab). The message body will be replaced with a GeekList update. When the change has been made by the author of the thread, the GeekList update can be pasted to the CtmtRFmu GeekList, and you can put an 'X' in column C (of the "GeekMails" tab), which will hide the update (this will also update the "Changed" column on the "Games" tab).

On the "Summary" tab, put any games you are patroning in column A, and it should calculate your number of requests, and the GeekList summary can be pasted to the CtmtRFmu GeekList to show your progress.

Edit: Updated the GoogleDoc and instructions.

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