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Board Game: Reef Encounter [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:186]
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It really works!

RE is one of the few games I rank a 10.
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All hail the Highly Advanced Formula!
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  • Posted Fri Apr 6, 2012 1:50 am
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I've read and re-read the rules, downloaded the simplified help sheet, watched all the videos, and I still can't get my head around it.
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This indeed has a rulebook that's hard to understand. I really want to play this game, but untill now I just can't explain it to someone else.
 
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This is my favourite game, and something I'd recommend to you as fitting your preference as 'Medium complexity', 'High Depth'.

The complexity probably feels high in the first game, but that's just a matter of having a lot of options of things to do, and not really knowing why you'd do them until you're familiar with the strategies. As the depth becomes apparent, the complexity goes down, as it alls starts to make sense.
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Interestingly, my second favourite game is Fortune and Glory: The Cliffhanger Game...which is definitely a 'low depth', 'high complexity' game. I've been trying to work out whether there is any pattern to my game preferences, but I haven't found one yet, and this depth:complexity ratio cerrtainly doesn't seem to be it for me!
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You're clearly just a well rounded human being!
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Great game, although I think I would categorize it as medium/medium. After a few plays it is easier to recognize the various tactical/strategic avenues presented each turn.
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I'm still learning new things about this game after about 30 plays of it, thats high depth in my book.
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You're clearly just a well rounded human being!


For sure, that's definitly indicated by the fact that the boardgames I spend all my time thinking about, reading about, listening to podcasts about, collecting and playing are of a variety of complexities and depths. Well rounded individual indeed !
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I bought it because I like the biological theme and the lovely artwork.

I had absolutely no idea it would go on to be my No. 1 favourite game.
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Agreed, this really is a superb game.
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Traded this for Khronos. I never played Khronos because it's ridiculously complex, but thinking about its ridiculously complicated rules is still more fun than playing Reef Encounter.

Yeah, I guess I don't like fish or something
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Traded this for Khronos. I never played Khronos because it's ridiculously complex, but thinking about its ridiculously complicated rules is still more fun than playing Reef Encounter.

Yeah, I guess I don't like fish or something


Haha, as much as I love it I can totally appreciate that RE is not everyone's cup of tea.
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Games played

Monday
_6_ Babel (new!)
_8_ Commands & Colors: Ancients

Wednesday
_6_ Airships
_8_ Reef Encounter (new!)

Thursday
_6_ 7 Wonders x2 (with _5_ Leaders (new!))
_6_ Flash Point: Fire Rescue (new!)
_6_ Ghost Stories (new!)

Friday
_7_ 1870

Saturday
_6_ Brawl (new!) x2
_4_ Island Trader (new!)
_7_ Lancaster
_8_ Reef Encounter

Quite a few new games this week.

Babel is quite a confrontational Kosmos 2p game which is somewhat unusual. It's also fairly light and quick. I'd say it occupies pretty much the same gaming space as King of Tokyo does (just swap out dice for cards), but does so in much more interesting ways because it actually allows for clever play instead of rolling well. Of course that doesn't mean the cards cannot screw you over (they will).

C&C: Ancients is one of those games that I don't get to play as often as I'd like, and if I do it's very often with new people so I often restart from the beginning. I've never actually managed to go beyond the second scenario so far. At least my opponent this time seemed to like the game so I'm somewhat hopeful that I'll get to the third eventually.

Reef Encounter had been sitting on my shelves unplayed for about 1.5 years so it was about time to pull it out. I'm glad I did. I found it highly opaque on first play (I lost very badly) and it seems to be gouverned by butterflies (jellyfish?) more than I'd have expected but it was very enjoyable. And fairly short, too, which is a nice bonus and likely improves the chances to get it played again soon-ish. The second game we played on Saturday even prompted me to raise my initial 7 rating by another point.

7 Wonders: Leaders is nice in that it provides some strategic focus that was missing before, but not so nice in that it (potentially) makes starting positions rather more imbalanced. Not really necessary, but not necessarily bad, either.

The cooperative duo of Flash Point and Ghost Stories proved too tough for us. In Flash Point the building collapsed on us just as we were carrying the last victim towards safety. It was particularly terrible because we were only playing the family rules (which clearly was a mistake; they are very snoozy. The advanced rules open up a lot more options and seem like the only way to play). In Ghost Stories it looked pretty good until shortly before the final battle. As soon as that had started, however, some unrelated hauntings quickly killed off two of the Taoists and we had to abandon the village. So close...

The play of 1870 saw a rare (for our group anyway) occurrence: The final 5T (non-permanent) was never bought, and the game ended with the 3Ts still running. It was fairly obvious who was winning, but he would have been in the best position if the bigger trains had hit, too, and everyone else would have taken a huge (and likely fatal) hit by buying the last 5T, so nobody did.

Brawl is a cute real-time fighting game. I like that it's not just about mindlessly slapping cards down faster than your opponent, and also that it's over after a minute or two.

Lancaster is another game I promoted after the session on Saturday. What can I say, I'm feeling generous right now. I blame the fantastic spring weather.
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The play of 1870 saw a rare (for our group anyway) occurrence: The final 5T (non-permanent) was never bought, and the game ended with the 3Ts still running. It was fairly obvious who was winning, but he would have been in the best position if the bigger trains had hit, too, and everyone else would have taken a huge (and likely fatal) hit by buying the last 5T, so nobody did.


Did all of the companies float? I'm not as familiar with 1870 as some of the others -- was there really nobody who benefited by killing the 3Ts?
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Players also commonly mis-predict their ability to improve their position in the recovery from the train rush. Sure, pushing the trains will hurt your position and cause you and lots of other players to sell shares and lose ground -- but how much ground can you make up in rebuilding your portfolio after the debacle? I see a lot of games won not by the player who dodged the train rush's bullets more adroitly, but instead by the player that built and maintained the best portfolio after the train rush winnowed all the player's positions. 1870 in particular would seem to lend itself to this sort of play.
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Did all of the companies float? I'm not as familiar with 1870 as some of the others -- was there really nobody who benefited by killing the 3Ts?


All the companies floated. To the second question, well... I probably would have benefitted most from killing the 3Ts since I didn't have any. However, by the time the last company floated and the 6Ts came into reach it probably would have actually hurt me most if anyone had bought the last 5T because that move would likely have rusted the 4Ts and 5Ts as well before that last 5T had had a chance to run and I only controlled one company with empty coffers. I fully expected to be the only player to have to pay out of pocket for the permanent train (and the only player forced to reduce his portfolio at the same time). I was pretty happy that it didn't get bought.

And since the player in the lead also looked perfectly set up to come out of the train rush unharmed or even stronger than before I guess the others didn't see the point, either. As our last place put it afterwards: "Why prolong the agony for another 2 hours?"
 
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You ain't playin' in your own sandbox here, baby.

You are constantly guarding against attacks by your opponent. Since each piece that you score is valued based on color, and you can modify that value and even lock it in before the game ends, there is fighting on multiple fronts.

It's actually pretty similar to...
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I have 3 salt water fish tanks.
1 with corals
1 with Fish and corals
1 with seahorses
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Wow! I'll bet they're beautiful! You should post some pictures!
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I've got three saltwater tanks and two freshwater. Nothing as advanced as corals or seahorses though.
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Against the only game featuring wooden prawns I think!
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Sorry magic fans, but this is the best looking game i have, and really a very clever and wonderful game too. My prawns have eyes you know.
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I feel my brain hurting just seeing a picture of this game. Magic wins.
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A game with proper rules versus a game without proper rules.


I don't understand this. Of all the criticisms Magic receives, I don't feel this one is fair. Magic has very tight rules. They may be extremely convoluted by now, but any game that is played for such large amounts of money would not work without proper rules. 'The Stack' is a thing of beauty!
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REEF ENCOUNTER IS THROUGH AGAINST AGRICOLA!
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woodnoggin wrote:
I don't understand this. Of all the criticisms Magic receives, I don't feel this one is fair. Magic has very tight rules. They may be extremely convoluted by now, but any game that is played for such large amounts of money would not work without proper rules. 'The Stack' is a thing of beauty!

No, you misunderstand me. I bought a starter pack many years ago, and found, to my horror, that the rules included therein where either of the kind This is a card. Cards have text on them. You get to carry out that text by playing that card! Isn't that cool!? or 1.1.1 Interrupts During an interrupt the quantum state of the stack is saved while the various state matrix operations are transformed into Banach spaces to make them compatible with a previous interrupt observable. When I asked for guidance on a Dutch Magic Usenet group, I was told to visit people in person so they could explain the game to me. Oh, and that interrupts were outdated.

I'm sorry: a game I purchase comes with concise and legible rules, aimed at people with an IQ on the IQ scale instead of off it; and if it doesn't, it's byebye game.
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I know Kevin should be up for playing this. I haven had it on my want to play list for a while.
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I would like to try this. Key Harvest is a new favorite of mine and I'm curious about this one.
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John and I always manage to get a f2f game going when hes here, so it shouldn't be a problem to include more people, though its better with 3 than 4.

I will say that this game has a few-game commitment needed to get into. Your first game will most likely end up with you asking what the hell just happened.
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John and I always manage to get a f2f game going when hes here, so it shouldn't be a problem to include more people, though its better with 3 than 4.

I will say that this game has a few-game commitment needed to get into. Your first game will most likely end up with you asking what the hell just happened.


Kevin I think I read a comment you made that you've thought about this game more than any other game you've encountered. That in itself is a pretty high recommendation to give it a try, that comment kind of stuck with me.
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JohnnyDollar wrote:
I would like to try this. Key Harvest is a new favorite of mine and I'm curious about this one.


Reef Encounter is my favorite game. How's that for an endorsement?


Yup, pretty good, I'm sold
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Kevin I think I read a comment you made that you've thought about this game more than any other game you've encountered. That in itself is a pretty high recommendation to give it a try, that comment kind of stuck with me.


Well I've never studied Go or Chess, but this is a constantly evolving learning process that I imagine is kindof like that but with an awesome stock system.
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BGG Description: Reef Encounter is about life on a coral reef! Using polyp tiles, players grow different types of corals, which they can protect from being attacked by other corals through judicious placing of their four shrimp counters. To be successful players must consume polyps from neighboring corals in order to acquire the 'consumed' polyp tiles that are the key to the game. The consumed polyp tiles have a myriad of uses (and have a similar effect to the action points in games like Tikal and Java). Most importantly they can be used to flip over or lock the coral tiles, which determine the respective values of the different types of coral at the end of the game.
 
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Purple shrimples
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I figure this list could do with some wetness, it's drydrydry out there, with the occasional green sprig struggling in the scorching heat... Apart from that this game is totally awesome, of course.
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Report to follow ...

I have the sheet with the scores on it. Unfortunately, it got soaked in the massive rain storm that occurred just as I got out of my car last night (amazingly, it was very localised to where we live - you may not have had the rain storm near you).

Anyway, the scores are not really readable anymore. They appear to be:

1. AndrewB2 score = 165000
2. Andrew-007 score = 31
3. Gordon score = 1

That sounds about right.

As the newbie to this game (and noting that AB2 has only played once before), I naturally decided to watch Gordon's play carefully and try to match him step-for-step.

Gordon played tiles, I played tiles. AB2 played tiles.
Gordon took tiles, I took tiles. AB2 played tiles.
Gordon passed, I passed. AB2 played tiles.
Wait ... someone seems to have a lot of tiles on the boards. And it isn't me (or Gordon).

Gobble, gobble, tiles consumed, colours locked, game over. By the time I had realised that following in Gordon's footsteps was a less-than-optimal approach to this game, AB2 had more purple, more orange, more everything on his score-box for me to recover.

Actual scores:

1. AndrewB2 65
2. Andrew-007* score = 31
3. Gordon score = 18

*first time

Would definitely playe again, but may choose different player to follow
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Can we just pretend this didn't happen shake
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domus_ludorum wrote:
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Can we just pretend this didn't happen shake

that what happenned?


Nothing! Absolutely nothing happened! Andy-B did not outscore 007 and myself combined and I did not finish with less than 20 points - none of that happened.

now you're making it really hard to pretend that it never happened .... well at least you weren't the player with the most experience of the game and teaching it to the others, that would be really embarassing whistle
 
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Anything to do with how the dice rolled?
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.... well at least you weren't the player with the most experience of the game and teaching it to the others, that would be really embarassing whistle


In Gordon's defence he was only teaching it to Andrew-007. He actually taught it to me the other week - and I didn't win by nearly as much then...
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It just shows what a brilliant teacher I am. meeple
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Board Game: Reef Encounter [Average Rating:7.27 Overall Rank:186]
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Game Condition:

Excellent.

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Excellent other than a really minor lip along one about one third of one edge of the bottom of the box.

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R&D Games / English and German.

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Free to the U.S. and the first $10 elsewhere.
 
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Z-Man edition (English)

Like new, played once

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Z-man games edition, in shrink. Will cover shipping to the continental US, Alaska and Hawaii pay the difference.
 
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Maybe we should have an outage more often so other people get a shot at the first page on this list...

Reef Encounter spent one and a half years on my shelf before I finally gave it a shot...

Reef Encounter (2 plays) - _8_



Reef Encounter is a tough clam to crack. The innocent, cutesy theme hides a pretty intense knife fight on the ocean floor. Direct conflict, resource management, and timing issues are the components which, looking at them in isolation, are fairly easy to grasp. In combination, however, they prove quite challenging. The final outcome of a game of Reef Encounter seems to be the result of a flock of butterflies flapping their wings (or maybe I should say jellyfish swaying their tentacles in order to not destroy the imagery). How to get them to sway in a way that benefits you is not something that is immediately apparent after the first play. An opaque and highly unusual game.


The Princes of Machu Picchu (2 plays) - _7_



Whatever your opinion of The Princes of Machu Picchu, there is no denying that it is a fairly unusual resource management game.

The centerpiece (and also the single most controversial game element) is the scoring that differs significantly depending on which of the two ending conditions is met. The major points of contention seem to be how well players can actually engineer a particular ending, and that the multipliers for the Conquistadors scoring are essentially based on hidden information. In both cases, experienced players seem to say there is no problem. I'll take their word for it right now, but I do have to admit I'm not totally convinced of it myself although the outlook is positive after the second play where we could have deflected the Spaniards fairly easily.


Babel (1 play) - _6_



Babel is an unusually aggressive game in the Kosmos two-player series. There is plenty of direct conflict and many of the special actions only exist to help you tear down the sand castles your opponent built. In addition, defensive options are severely limited and largely ineffective so in this case the best way to defend really is to attack.

Turns are very tactical, with the immediate actions often very much dictated by the card draws but that's not to say that amidst all the chaos and the collapsing temples a superior long-term strategy is entirely without its merits.


Brawl (2 plays) - _6_



Brawl is a cute real-time fighting game. I'm not usually a fan of (nor a challenge in) that sort of games but Brawl is good fun nevertheless, mostly because it isn't just about brainlessly slapping down cards the fastest. There is a good deal of interaction between the different cards, providing ways to annoy your opponent with clever plays, and even if things don't work out the fight is over after a minute or two. For a very quick match every now and then, this is pretty good stuff.


Ghost Stories (1 play) - _6_



Ghost Stories isn't all that different from most other cooperative games. There is a threat (evil spirits in this case) that increases as the game moves along. If the players get their priorities right and aren't too unlucky in their card draws and dice rolls they will likely beat the challenge.

The theme carries over pretty well in this one, but it is lacking a game arc apart from what the randomly drawn cards provide. Actions available to the players stay pretty much the same throughout. Admittedly, that is another trait that it shares with many other coops.


Flash Point: Fire Rescue (1 play) - _6_



While the family game is hardly worth playing, the advanced game feels fairly similar in style to Pandemic, including various specialists and attempts to put out fires wherever they flare up (more literally, however).

Yet another cooperative game that draws its pull more from the thematic integration than its novel gameplay. Quite a hoot for puzzle fans, I would expect.


D-Day Dice (1 play) - _5_



D-Day Dice may well be the best and most variable of the Yahtzee clones, although that is obviously not saying too much. It's quite challenging, often requires going after specific results, and still provides several different options to pursue.

Calling the game "cooperative" is quite a stretch, however. While there are very light interactive elements it's still predominantly a solitaire dice roller. And it does have player elimination which can be a bit of a pain even when a game doesn't last longer than 20 or 30 minutes.


Lübeck (1 play) - _5_



Light hand management game with a heavy dose of luck. Players steer trading vessels across the Baltic Sea and parts of the North Sea. The ships are moved along predetermined paths by playing a destination card for the next stop. Those cards are received in a mandatory draft at the beginning of a turn, and this is where the game is decided. On the one hand you need to get cards to advance your own (possibly shared) expeditions, on the other hand you don't want cards you won't be able to play in a somewhat timely manner since all cards you need to discard because of exceeding the hand size limit score negative points.

The game does allow for some clever play but there is very little you can do when the cards or the turn order conspire against you.


Island Trader (1 play) - _4_



Island Trader is effectively a pretty solitaire resource optimisation puzzle. Interaction is limited to supplying islands before your opponent can but while this is not entirely unimportant the easily dominating factor is the luck of the draw. If you don't get the goods you need for trading with an island (ideally without having to overpay too much) there is nothing you can do about it. Despite the very simple rules the need for optimisation can easily lead to overly long downtime.


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7 Wonders: Leaders (2 plays) - _5_



On the plus side, the leaders provide players with a strategic goal to pursue which is something has has been largely missing in the base game. The various leader abilities are fairly interesting and add a bit of variability.

The disadvantage, then, is that there is practically no influence on the initial leader draft, and players who, through no particular fault of their own, end up with a powerful combination of leaders have a definite edge over those who don't.

In short, the leaders add more strategy and variability at the cost of less balanced starting positions.
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Reef Encounter is a fantastic game, that reveals its strategies with further play. I've played it nearly 30 times, and I'm still seeing new tactics emerge.
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Drew1365 wrote:
Reef Encounter is a fantastic game, that reveals its strategies with further play. I've played it nearly 30 times, and I'm still seeing new tactics emerge.


Yay, LOVE Reef Encounter! I haven't got nearly that many plays (I think my most played game is about that many) but it's my number 1 favourite!
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I'd actually be happy if I had 5 plays by the end of the year, but I'm going to work on that.
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Machu Pichu is an awesome game. In the 7 or so games we have played, I have only seen the Spaniards arrive once. The one thing that I do think it has going for it is the fact that you can abandon your cards (victory conditions) if you get new ones that better reflect your current situation. The key to the game is the Inca Trail.
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Tegs wrote:
Drew1365 wrote:
Reef Encounter is a fantastic game, that reveals its strategies with further play. I've played it nearly 30 times, and I'm still seeing new tactics emerge.


Yay, LOVE Reef Encounter! I haven't got nearly that many plays (I think my most played game is about that many) but it's my number 1 favourite!


I wish I could get it to the table. I really like this one but no body ever wants to play it.
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French / Dutch version. Components are language independent.

English rules are available on the geek.
 
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English edition. I traded this for my Dominion set, which appears to have been a good trade for my partner so I'm happy with it. However, I'm not sure why I wanted this game in return, because it feels a bit too abstract for my taste

Condition: Seems perfectly fine, very minor wear. I never played it myself, but it was played by the previous owner.
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With Chris and Russell in Middle-Earth and Gary setting up Ticket to Ride, a game I like with the family but find slightly on the light side, I suggested Reef Encounter. Andy B, Mark and Andy, none of whom had played before, joined me.

This game is a bit of an odd fish (groan) - it's a brain burning abstract which has wonderful artwork themed on a tropical reef, but which doesn't really match the mechanics. This can make picking up the game a bit difficult as the function the pieces serve is not obvious - what does a Larva Cube or an algae cylinder actually do?

The actual game mechanics are very good with a fair few moving parts all integrating to create some interesting decisions and tactics.

Essentially you are trying to deploy and control different groups of coral onto the board, and then defend enough of them (using shrimps, obviously!)to allow your parrot fish time to consume them for points. Along the way you can attack other groups of coral, and use captured coral, to manipulate the relative values of the coral colours - this affects both the strength of coral in relation to each other and how much the coral is worth in victory points at the end.

It takes at least half a game to start to get your head around what you need to do, so I suspect I was leading at half-way. However with 4 players it's quite hard to control the sea-board, which holds the relative coral strength tiles, and Andy-B was able to finish the game by grabbing some orange tiles and then bump their value as VP's. Andy was also catching up strongly but was slightly caught out by Andy-B finishing the game when he did. I think for the first time I remember Mark kept saying he'd just made a mistake and then didn't end up winning the game.

Andy-B* 40 (8.5)
Gordon 35 (9)
Andy* 33 (8)
Mark* 25 (7.5)

*=first game.

I really like this - it probably plays a little better with 3 - not quite so much down time and the board doesn't change so much between plays. Definitely worth a play.

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