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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Mark Johnson
United States
Santa Clarita
California
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Feb 13, 2006

This episode became my white whale. It was a struggle to get it recorded, edited, partially scrapped & re-recorded, and finally posted. Towards the end, I have to admit that I just gave up a little bit, posting it even though I'm still not happy with the audio quality. Also, I think I ramble on just a bit too much, though at least the second take was better than the first! The audio issues come from using a slightly different setup, one I'd hoped would give me a little more flexibility in where & when I record the shows (i.e., it's more portable). It worked ok, and could probably be improved further, though I'm not sure it solves my fundamental problem of not enough time to spend on the podcast!

Ah well, at least it's posted now. Maybe I can turn around a (shorter) 52nd show quicker, getting in some more audio feedback that I couldn't squeeze into this episode.

In the news section I mention how you need to read this blog/website to learn how to join me for games of Torres, Alhambra, Fearsome Floors, and perhaps Droles des Zebres on the play-by-web site Boîte à Jeux. That site doesn't use passwords, but I can still restrict a game to BGTGers by inviting specific users to join my games. To do that, I need your BAJ usernames. Email them to me, or--better yet--post them in comments to this message.

Towards the end of the feedback section I ask the audience for some idea for game accessories that make good gifts for the gamer who has everything. Got some ideas?

-Mark

P.S. Samarit, I later figured out that Togo is in west Africa, not the South Pacific. Sorry about that! At least I know where Bavaria is . . .


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My Interview by an Optimist (that's Tom Vasel, of course!)
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Bolide (and the old skool graph paper racing game that might even be better [and another])
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Ole Palnatoke Andersen
Denmark
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Drøn rundt og arkæologisér. Giv de bedste forelæsninger i Europa.
 
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Mike Jones
United States
Gainesville
Florida
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#5

OK, so this represents two games. I prefer the 2nd edition (shown), but the Queen edition is easier to set up so it gets player more.

"Wow, this was a surprise. It's week mechanic where one person may be doing fewer turns because they are doing longer things, while another person is doing more things on a shorter time frame is very fun. Not sure the exhibits add a lot to it. Rating with only one play. May go higher.

(Thoia thinks I should point out that it is well worth the $27.84 I paid for it on eBay)

[2nd edition]"


Queen edition - "I very much enjoy this game. Yes, it has a lot of luck, but that's part of the theme. Plus, you can mitigate that luck to some extent. Or just go with it."
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Christopher Fritel
United States
Austin
Texas
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3 players, 75 minutes
 
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Bob Duclos
United States
Orem
Utah
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Tom Hilgert
Germany
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Bavaria
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Thebes looks better , is also a good game, but the original is much more interesting to play (timing is much more important)
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Bob Duclos
United States
Orem
Utah
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Original edition of Thebes [Note: Thebes is NOT included]
Components in very good condition, It is in german but an english translation document is included in the box (and there is very little language dependency)
 
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Mike Jones
United States
Gainesville
Florida
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#5

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Ok, while I slightly prefer the 2nd edition, truth be told if I'm pulling it out to play lately, I pull out the Queen edition.

Wow, this was a surprise. It's week mechanic where one person may be doing fewer turns because they are doing longer things, while another person is doing more things on a shorter time frame is very fun. Not sure the exhibits add a lot to it. Rating with only one play. May go higher.

(Thoia thinks I should point out that it is well worth the $27.84 I paid for it on eBay)

[2nd edition]




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I very much enjoy this game. Yes, it has a lot of luck, but that's part of the theme. Plus, you can mitigate that luck to some extent. Or just go with it.


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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Joe Huber

Westborough
Massachusetts
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Status on my Essen list: Not Present

Why I got it: I traded three games for the original, 2004 edition, which I've been looking for for some time.

What happened: I _will_ write a History of Thebes review; just not sure when.
 
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Adam Kranzel
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Piedmont
California
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This game contains three sizes of cards.

Excavation cards:
Number of cards: 155 @ 40 x 60mm

Arcane Tinmen sleeve size: Mini - Orange (AT-10405, 100/pack) - (41 x 63mm)
Fantasy Flight sleeve size: Mini American - Yellow (FFS01, 50/pack) - (1-5/8” x 2-1/2” - 41 x 63mm)
Mayday sleeve size: Mini USA - Yellow: Standard (MDG-7039, 100/pack) or Premium (MDG-7075, 50/pack) - (41 x 63mm)
Swan PanAsia sleeve size: Mini Chimera: Standard (SWN-004, 160/pack) or Premium (SWN-501, 100/pack) - (43 x 65mm)
Thai Boardgame sleeve size: #8 for 42x64mm cards (120/pack)
Ultimate Guard sleeve size: Mini American: Premium (UGD010280, 50/pack) or Supreme (UGD010102, 50/pack) - (44 x 67mm)
Ultra-Pro sleeve size: Mini American - Blue (82662, 50/pack) - (41 x 63mm)

City cards:
Number of cards: 89 @ 49 x 70mm

Swan PanAsia sleeve size: 51x77 (SWN-012, 160/pack) - (51 x 77mm)

Excavation permission cards:
Number of cards: 20 @ 47 x 66mm

Swan PanAsia sleeve size: 47x70 (SWN-009, 160/pack) - (47 x 70mm)
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Joe Huber

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While there aren't any X or Y games which have managed to stick in my collection, there are a lot (well, 5) games starting with a J:

Jenseits von Theben - the game that became Thebes - if my favorite of the lot, and one of my very favorite games of all.

Jambo has been, for some time now, my favorite two-player game. I avoided it for a while because of some of the comparisons made, but once I tried it I was hooked.

Jati is an abstract I enjoy - my review can be found here.

Jericho is an enjoyable little filler - though the cards in the Uberplay edition are almost unplayable; the original Abacus edition doesn't have this problem. Best with 2-3.

Julchen und die Monster is, if not an inspiration for Love Letter, in the same family - and rather more interesting, at least for me.
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Agent J
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Coldwater
Michigan
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He's looking real sharp in his 1940's fedora. He's got nerves of steel, an iron will, and several other metal-themed attributes. His fur is water tight and he's always up for a fight.
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Another easy-peasy name. There's no way you could even possibly mispronounce this. You probably know exactly how to pronounce it. Probably.
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Kris Verbeeck
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leaving... trade
 
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Bob Duclos
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Orem
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Scott Petersen
United States
St. Louis Park
Minnesota
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Small crease in box cover

Soft reserve $40

2 lbs 5 oz
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Chris Lohroff
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Grand Rapids
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Prinz spiel edition. Played a few times.
 
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Greg Schloesser
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Talbott
Tennessee
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Game is in excellent condition with everything intact.

Soft Reserve: $8.00
Buy-it-Now: $25.00
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
jorrit jorrit
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Queen games multi lang. Edition.
Played once, good condition

Shipping: same as your shipping options.*

*If you get this item in your trade and you offer free shipping in the Benelux I will ship this item for free. If you charge the first x EUR outside your country I will charge you the same amount if I have to send it outside my country.
 
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Joe Huber

Westborough
Massachusetts
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2005 discoveries:

Jenseits von Theben 10
Indonesia 9
Jambo 9
Planet Steam 9
Älpler-Stafette 8
Ark 8
Auf Fotosafari in Ombagassa 8
Chinagold 8
Floriado 8
Hamstern 8
Kreta 8
Lines of Action 8
Louis XIV 8
Verflixxt! 8
Akaba 7
Armada 7
Battle of the Bands 7
Baubylon 7
Bist Du sicher? 7
Canasta 7
Cui Bono? (from Das Spiel) 7
Das Kollier der Königin von Saba 7
Das Prestel Säulenspiel 7
Deflexion 7
Diamant 7
Eden 7
Fiji 7
Fjords 7
Gavitt's Stock Exchange 7
Hoppla Lama 7
Hotel Life 7
Ice Lake 7
Jericho 7
Kopernikus 7
Maus Nach Haus 7
Mucho (from Das Spiel) 7
Odin's Ravens 7
Pool Position 7
Rasanto (from Das Spiel) 7
Rat Hot 7
Remmi Demmi 7
Schlangennest 7
Spinnentwist 7
Split 7
Tahuantinsuyu 7
The Game of Life Card Game 7
Ubongo 7
Wilderness War 7
Wolf im Schafspelz 7
Aber Hallo! 6
Antike 6
Atlas & Zeus 6
Bedlam 6
Boccerball 6
Castle Merchants 6
Consensus 6
Dancing Dice 6
Demono 6
Easy Come Easy Go 6
Fairy Tale 6
Farfalia 6
Frankenstein 6
Fredericus 6
Friesen-Törn 6
Gelb Gewinnt 6
Globetrotter 6
Gulo Gulo 6
Heckmeck im Bratwurmeck 6
Industria 6
Johnny Controletti 6
Kippit 6
Knock Out 6
König Salomons Schatzkammer 6
Leapfrog 6
Mad Mate 6
Mark 6
Master Thieves 6
Niagara 6
Oceania 6
Ostfriesenlauf 6
Palatinus 6
Palazzo 6
Pick Two 6
Piranha Pedro 6
Poison 6
Quanta Costa 6
Roma 6
Rook 6
Roundhouse 6
Spelunke 6
Tantalus 6
Time Pirates 6
Tohu Wabohu 6
Tolstoi 6
Trump, Tricks, Game! 6
Weg Damit! 6
Xe Queo! 6
1860 5
Affenraffen 5
Antiquity 5
Attribut 5
Axiom 5
Bakerstreet 5
Blue Moon 5
Bonaparte at Marengo 5
Brettfussball 5
Bumparena 5
Capt'n W. Kidd 5
Clue The Card Game 5
Dracula 5
Empyrean, Inc. 5
Enix 5
Exxtra 5
Fette Fünfzehn 5
Fettnapf 5
Flower Power 5
Freya's Folly 5
Garden Competition 5
Gülle Gülle 5
Haceinda 5
HeroScape 5
Hotu Matua 5
Kaivai 5
King Arthur - Das Kartenspiel 5
König der Maulwürfel 5
Lawless 5
Lift Off 5
Linkity 5
Lucca Citta 5
Manila 5
Mesopotamia 5
Monkeys on the Moon 5
Saga 5
Shadows Over Camelot 5
Shear Panic 5
Silberzwerg 5
Slow Freight 5
Strudel 5
Techno Witches 5
The Nacho Incident 5
Tier auf Tier 5
Tuchulcha 5
Uno Attack 5
Alles Klar? 4
Amazonas 4
Architekton 4
Australia 4
Das Ende des Triumverat 4
Das Gold der Inka 4
Dungeons & Dragons: The Fantasy Adventure Board Game 4
Emerald 4
Gold und Rum 4
If Wishes Were Fishes 4
Just Wait 4
Media Mogul 4
Monsters Menace America 4
Municipium 4
Neuland 4
Nuggets 4
Oh Pharaoh 4
Pussy Cat 4
Sackwas 4
Spy 4
Sushi Express 4
VOC! - Founding the Dutch East Indies Company 4
Walk The Dogs 4
Zauber Cocktail 4
Big Book of Outrageous Fun 3
Caylus 3
Cranium The Family Fun Game 3
Domination 3
Dream Team 3
Fiese Freunde Fette Feten 3
Fliegen 3
Gone Fishing! 3
In The Shadow of the Emperor 3
Kon-Tiki 3
Luftschlösser 3
Members Only 3
Murder on the Orient Express 3
Path of Pharaohs 3
Pecunia Non Olet 3
Polarity 3
Spinergy 3
Tower of Babel 3
Trüffeln Schnüffeln 3
Die Pyramide des Krimsutep 2
Dividends 2
Rotundo 2
Snorta 2
Mogelei 1
Pferdewetten 1

2004 was a remarkable year for new games, and (as usual) it took me into 2005 to find them all. I've grown to have a slight preference for Thebes, but I count it as the same game as Jenseits von Theben (unlike BGG), so this entry covers both games for me.
 
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
Bob Duclos
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Orem
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Edition: Prinz Spiele

Condition: good condition
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Thorsten Englert
Germany
Stuttgart
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Greg Schloesser
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Talbott
Tennessee
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Game is complete and in EXCELLENT condition. This is the Prinz Spiele version.

Soft-reserve: $40.00
Buy-it-Now: $90.00
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
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Signed copy. BGG indicates $30.
 
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Board Game: Jenseits von Theben [Average Rating:7.19 Overall Rank:1251]
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