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Board Game: Button Men [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1854]
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Sometimes it's good to step into the frame and talk about the monster. It makes even Godzilla approachable, people sized, harmless.

Gaming is intense. I mean, sit someone down to build a cute farm in Agricola and suddenly they discover they're in a tightening vice & freak a bit. So this item is for your stories of freak outs big and small, your's and others, and how this has formed your thoughts about gaming, about people, about yourself.
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Last week I had a terrific game of Sekigahara. Now this is a game I've fallen in love with, so it was pretty special to get it back on the table. Now the thing is, I've played gold (Ishido) each time, and lost suddenly each time. I think the furthest I made it (before defeat) was Week 3 (out of 7). I say this to point out that I've never seen the full arc of the game to a 'natural' conclusion. It's as though you'd never seen the Late Game in Twilight Struggle.

Wargames are new water to me. Here's one way they're different. They're bloody. Things die & leave the game and get piled over there. Reinforcement tempo isn't something I've done alot of in Euro's. I mean, look at what I call it... reinforcement tempo. Jeez. That's Euro-speak for desperately getting blocks out so they can die too. Shoot, there's a whole different language to these games. Attrition, maneuver, command control. It's pretty cool when finally these things aren't abstractions cause you're doing them.

Or not, as the case may be.

Such as this case, at mid-game, and I'm getting that sinking feeling. Now, I've kept my leader out of the fray, so I won't suddenly lose this one by exposing my leader (if you lose a particular leader in this game, it's instant loss of the game). And I was disciplined about it, insistant... I needed that guy out there to lend his maneuver & leadership, but no way was I going to lose this one like that again. But things are looking pretty bad. I'd lost any position on the entire west side of the map and was getting compressed.

But I made it through Week 4 ... Week 5 ...

I was struggling with how to control the game, things were looking worse & worse from my view. I came to a moment when I forgot a rule which informed my last play in a round. As we're heading into the new round, bookkeeping, I realized it & wanted takebacks. No said M., rightly, we're past that. I saw my misplay as a fatal error. I stepped from the table and screamed at the floor, an Arrggghhhhh! of frustration. Then I went back to the board to finish out the game. For all sorts of reasons, this particular game had gotten to me. I wanted to do well at this game, tonight, now.

Now, this is simply a terrible thing to do. I wanted to crawl under the table in embarrassment. Like there was a needy beast hidden inside of me. And M. just saw it.

We finished the game. It turned into a beaut, we both had fancy endgame maneuvers, M. had just sealed a 3 point lead in the last round of the final week, and I made my final move. All I could do was take a castle and pull to a 1 point defeat. I took the castle and looked up to congratulate M. He had his hand out, grinning. Congrats, you won, he said. His 'particular leader' was hidden in that castle. On a game I'd have lost by a point, I won by killing his exposed leader, unknowing.

Of course, this made that scream of frustration the more ironic.

I tell you this story because it makes me look bad. Because I was bad. But I realize in the course of these games we play, game in & game out, moments can build once and a while to a beautiful night at a window overlooking the night hunched over an intense, wonderful, mind-ripping effort and ... we scream at the floor. Now, this isn't a scream about possibly losing by the way, it's that we tie ourselves up with these intricate finger traps (remember those?) of games that stimulate pressure & once in a while we crack.

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About the arc of this game, by the way. I'd misread it's progress out of ignorance. We both had moments of victory, moments of painful fragility, as that is the narrative of this game, perhaps of war as well.

Just so you know, I'll never scream at Sekigahara again. I understand it, and hopefully myself, just a bit better now.
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This is a tough one. I can honestly say that I've never had any freak outs during a gaming session. I've ran the full range of emotions but at most that usually results in a sigh, a head shake or some other such sign of frustration. That is certainly not to say that there isn't a lot going on inside that I have noticed and learned from.

- Arrogant people piss me off. I've always known this but an experience during a game of Caylus reinforced it for me. A player far in the back of the pack decided to play kingmaker between myself and another player at the end of a very close game of Caylus. I actually assumed he might not realize what he was doing and so asked him. He responded that he was fully aware and when I then asked then why he would act in such a fashion he had a flippant reponse, "because I can." That might be the closest I've come to going off on someone during a game. It hit a nerve and I've avoided gaming with that guy ever since. This usually ends up with me simply getting frustrated at myself for granting people like that the power to get into my head and have any influence over me.

- I can be intolerant of what I feel are ignorant decisions made by others that directly impact me. Nope not a political rant. This one goes back to another recent kingmaker situation. This time I asked my friend, a damn fine guy, if he realized the implications of a particular action he was taking in the game. He did not and felt bad about it after I pointed it out. It was really no big deal but it still irritated me more than it really should have. Tori tells me often that my expectations of others can be unfair. I'm certain this is directly tied to the expectations I hold for myself and how hard I push to meet those expectations. I hate feeling like I let someone down, messed something up or in some sense failed. Which leads to my next point.

- I can doubt myself and beat myself up over mistakes. This has happened multiple time while gaming. A stupid end game move during my last session of Sekigahara cost me a win and drove me a bit nuts. Struggling with a game like Imperial gets into my head and makes me start to doubt my ability to wrap my head around a game. That can be an ugly spot to be at.

Gaming provides all sorts of opportunities to explore various facets of my personality. Some good, some not so good. Perhaps not always an excercise I enjoy but one that I know there is value in.

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My one moment of ranting came in a game of Illuminati: Deluxe Edition. There were six of us playing I think. I don't even remember which power I was playing, but I was in a position to win on my next turn. Everything would have had to go right, including the die rolls, but I was willing to risk it.

The player after me, let's call him Fred, was also close, although his odds were not as good as mine, and assuming he worked to stop me on my turn, that would diminish his odds of winning because some of his money would be used up, etc...

Anyways, all this is going through my head, as I'm watching the other player power structures, the cards available to take, etc, when one of the other players does his turn and then says "and for my second action I give these two groups to Fred and he wins."

If he'd pulled out the win for himself, that would have been ok, and I certainly would have been ok if it had been a joint victory ("I do this and we both win"). But no, it was "well, you were probably going to win on your turn, so I stopped you".

I lost it. I yelled at him that he'd just wasted two hours of my life and that I would never play this game with him again. Not my finest moment, but I don't think I was too out of line.
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I'm with you, Max. Occasionally I have to chime in with a terse "Play your own turn. Let him play his."

You would hate playing with me!
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Anyways, all this is going through my head, as I'm watching the other player power structures, the cards available to take, etc, when one of the other players does his turn and then says "and for my second action I give these two groups to Fred and he wins."

That is inconsiderate, which is a huge hot button for me in general, not only in gaming.
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This is for a copy of the very rare "Guillermo" button; it was one of 5 Button Men in the Renaissance Button Men promo set issued by Stone Press.

Language: English
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Games Played from Dec 30, 2011 to Jan 10, 2012

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How was Eclipse? I am mildly interested in trying it. Would I enjoy it?
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What is this Escape from Aliens blah blah blah? Really cool looking cover.


The first couple times I felt so-so about the game, this last time was a lot of fun.

But, yeah there isn't much to he game. There's a lot of trust needed for the game. ALL movement is hidden and there are cards you draw to see if you have to give a clue and if it can be a lie. Those cards are never seen either.

But, it is different.
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How was League of Six? (This is going to be easy, lots of you playing the first game by one of my favourite designers, anyone would think you were all together or something)


Yup, it's one of the games we all played together with Mary. It wasn't bad. I did feel wow'd by it, but would gladly play it again. My two concerns were that the initial bid had to be at one, so you couldn't try to take a city right away and that if you got outbid, you immediately got to rebid. So, some times the 4th and 5th player would get left out until the three best ones were already decided.
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How is BSG with the "real" Baltar?

EDIT: I of course meant without... voices in my head confused me whistle
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How is BSG with the "real" Baltar?

EDIT: I of course meant without... voices in my head confused me whistle


I was wondering what you were getting T, there wasn't anyone playing Baltar that game.

We miss you Charles, maybe that's why we don't play as much.
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This is for some assorted buttons.

Included:

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A winner has been selected:

As a check, this geeklist item should have received 184 thumbs.

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*LOL*

I have a button on buttonmen.com
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Ooh, some Buttonmen we don't have!


"leece is a fine artist who really should consider drawing things other than animals for a change. She likes drawing, going to SF conventions and beating people up."
Count my thumb for Alicia, since I'd like to win a dragon drawing of hers meeple
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Ooh, some Buttonmen we don't have!

"leece is a fine artist who really should consider drawing things other than animals for a change. She likes drawing, going to SF conventions and beating people up."


I have a thing for dragons

My thumb for Alicia please


Aw, gee thanks Eurojuegos! blush
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Completing your collection is a very good cause!

Gladly donating my thumbsup to you as well, Alicia!


Thank you very much! You guys are so generous!
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"leece is a fine artist who really should consider drawing things other than animals for a change. She likes drawing, going to SF conventions and beating people up."
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Thanks Victor! Hope the karmic faery visits in a good way!
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Button Men is by far my most played game ever. Sure, the majority of those games were played online, but I have a bag full of buttons at home, and more dice than any one person should own. I like the quickness of this game and how it teaches you about math and probability while being wildly entertaining. The rules are now free along with a set of cards of the basic characters to print out instead of using buttons, so everyone should at least give it a try.
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This is a Lunch Money set for Button Men. I received it in a little celophane bag; the rule insert states the catalog number as AG3333 and "Hope & Chastity" but inside are 6 buttons: Hope, Chastity, Faith, Temperance, Charity and Prudence. All are in clean unblemished condition. Based on the Atlast Games website, it looks like this is all 3 sets (pairs) of Lunch Money Button Men (but only 1 rules insert).

(Image from BGG gallery shows 4 of the 6 LM BM.)
 
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Released by Cheapass Games for free, get the rules here:

http://www.cheapass.com/freegames/buttonmen

Print up cards using this file:

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/filepage/68179/pdf-to-print-as-...

All you need then is some dice
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This can be fun to do by making a Button-Men-like template (I made one using MS Paint) and sticking it over pictures from favourite movies/comics. Then make up numbers and Button-Men abilities that seem to make sense for that guy/girl/robot/pirate/ninja.
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There's lots of decision making going on. "Rolling dice" is one of the game instructions. Read the rules, or better yet, play a game.
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Another cheapass game recently released for free through the site. I have to say I like this one, as do the kids who helped me test it. It's fast, fun, and quite fiendish. May need to do up some formulas with my own art or have kids make their own characters using die points, but that makes it all the more fun!

ACCEPTED (Free rules and formulas, easy to adapt and expand BY KIDS!)
 
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7 2-packs of Button Men: CAG301-306, and XFB028 XXXenophile promo buttons. All in original bags with cards.
Free shipping in US, I will pay first $8 out of US.
 
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Promo for Button Men (1999)

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Promo Carson (Dork Tower) Button Men


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2 players, 5 mins

This game gained a quick following after one of the major gaming conventions of 1999. It features several characters, represented on actual stickpin buttons, that each have a unique allowance of polyhedral dice. These dice endow each character with fairly unique combat abilities. Players roll the dice against each other and take their opponents' dice as casualties. The object of the game is take out the most die 'sides' during the combat. It's quite simple, quite inventive, and deeper than it would seem at first.
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2 Player Light Customizable Games

1686 Button Men (1999) 5 mins
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2217 Harry Potter Trading Card Game (2001) 20 mins
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And next to Brawl, in another bag, 7 2-packs of these for $1.99.

Another random game I'd never heard of...that won an Origins award.

All righty.

Might be the first 6 CAG + 1 XXXenophile pack.

Anyway, just a random-ass find.

EDIT: Edited because "random-ass find" has a whole different meaning from "random ass find".
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I was thinking more of "ass" as the location, and that probably nothing good would be found there. gulp
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Dan Edelen
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The hyphen: power cloaked in a tiny stroke.
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  • Posted Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:41 pm
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I first read the name of this game as "Button Men." blush
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  • Posted Thu Jul 21, 2011 3:03 am
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Robrob wrote:
I first read the name of this game as "Button Men." blush


That would certainly be a random ass find, then.
I wonder if the Butt Men have Red Mage?

-Alex
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  • Posted Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:39 am
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Board Game: Button Men [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1854]
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This is a set of 5 Button Men from the Renaissance set.
Condition: New in ziplock bag (as originally sold).
Language: English.
Publisher: Stone Press.

Shipping: Will ship free to US and Canada.
 
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This is a set of 5 Button Men from the Renaissance set.
Condition: New in ziplock bag (as originally sold).
Language: English.
Publisher: Stone Press (Renaissance).


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Funny I just found out about this game yesterday!
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  • Posted Mon Jul 4, 2011 5:41 pm
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You need a LOT of different types of dice. It's helps if you have tons of D&D dice already.
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  • Posted Tue Jul 5, 2011 4:30 pm
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Feature: Where's the Off Button???

Problem: So if you're subscribed to a guild, you can't UNsubscribe from any thread! When you look at a guild thread, the button says "Subscribe", implying that you're NOT subscribed, but you are.

Solution: Your guild subscription should work like a game subscription. You get a single notification for a forum thread, but you then have to subscribe to the thread to get further updates for that thread.


Edit: This is merely a preferences issue. Oops.
 
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Unless I'm missing something here, this works exactly like game subscriptions. You have subscription preferences that determine whether you get a notification for new threads, replies, images and GeekList items when subscribed to a guild. Sounds like you want to change replies to no, so that you get threads only.

And this is why a thread still has the subscribe link: because you aren't directly subscribed to the thread but to the guild - if you clicked subscribe on the thread, you'd end up getting 2 notifications, one at guild level and one at thread level.

So if your preferences are to subscribe to threads and replies at the guild level, you can't unsubscribe from an individual thread, but you should be able to block it instead (drop-down the arrow by the subscribe link), which overrides your default preferences.
 
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  • Edited Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:02 pm
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Yes, you're right! I haven't looked at the preferences page in years. I just needed to turn of "Replies" on Guild subscription settings.

Again, a minor usability improvement for dumb people like me: When you hit a page due ot be subscribed to all replies for the Guild (or item), disable the Subscription button at the top, because a) You already are subscribed to all replies, and b) To give a clue that you can't change subsciption to replies from this page. Of course the home run would be to have mouse-over text saying you are subscribed via user preferences.
 
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Nice in theory but they couldn't really do that. For instance, now you've just changed your preferences, what if a particular thread is so interesting to you that you want all it's replies as well? That's when you subscribe to the individual thread, in addition to the guild subscription, to get replies to that one thread only.
 
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  • Posted Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:05 am
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col_w wrote:
Nice in theory but they couldn't really do that.

I don't understand why.
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For instance, now you've just changed your preferences,...

To what? To NOT subscribe to replies? Sure, in that case the Subscribe button for a thread should be enabled. As I said, I was talking about when you hit a page because you ARE subscribed to guild replies.
 
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Board Game: Button Men [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1854]
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a true classic, cheapass game was pulled out and played.
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This is a set of 9 Button Men including the 4 from the Freaks set and 5 from the Renaissance set.
Condition: New in ziplock bag (as originally sold).
Language: English.
Publisher: Cheapass (Freaks) and Stone Press (Renaissance).

Will ship to anywhere in the US, and will do so for free.
 
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This game looks so great on the iphone and plays so well. Everything about it is perfect. It even had bluetooth multiplayer available when it came out. Sadly, the developer James sold the rights to is uninterested in persuing this fabulous port with what is now basic features like retina, gamecenter and ipad support. And it's been two years.

The dice rolled onto the floor and there's noone to pick them up - Abandonware.
 
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Warren Adams
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BGG #17

Men of Buttons, do I want thee?
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Cute and harmless. Which might be the most positive comment I have about any game from Ernest...
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  • Posted Sun May 29, 2011 6:22 pm
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Darren Zeidler
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I'll button your men... ummm... no, maybe not that one...
 
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Price (05/26/11): $0.99
Developer: Thrust Interactive
Features: AI; Local multiplayer on one device or Bluetooth



http://click.linksynergy.com/fs-bin/stat?id=Smq3RC8yf5I&offe...
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Really fun game, would love to see something new though regarding it, it seems to have stagnated a bit.
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  • Posted Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:25 am
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Yoki Erdtman
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I have some sort of addiction to Button Men, and will readily play this great and quick 2-player dice game. The game is played in best-of-5 game matches, but even then it rarely takes more than 5-10 minutes to play an entire match. The game is math heavy, and knowing how to calculate odds will definitely give you an edge. The game's two original sets from Cheapass Games were just made available free as print and play, so please give it a try!
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