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Having recently replayed this one (I own the Samurai Swords that I bought in 2000), it looked like it needed a recent review.

Completed Wednesday, March 28, 2012.
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This is the original version of the game. This contains approx. 4 games together into one large bundle. There is an original Shogun box and an original Samurai Swords box. Multiple game boards, rule books, etc., also hundred and hundreds of extra minis in addition to the complete set for the game.

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This is a collector's dream if you want a complete copy of the original and a ton of extras. You can either complete other copies of the game to resell or have larger armies, etc.

Starting Bid: $5.00
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NOTE: I can't stress how much stuff is actually included in this lot. The shipping weight will be quite high, so I would not recommend anyone from Canada getting this, although I would be happy to ship if you are willing to pay the extra for shipping. Shipping will be charged at actual cost and I will find the best shipping deal I can.
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For those who asked, I did take photos but won't be able to upload them until tomorrow, they are too large for me to upload and I can't shrink them down on my laptop tonight.

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Complete original MB big box Samurai Swords...$2.99 at SA.
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Pedantic Man says that the original MB Big Box was actually "Shogun":

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Very Good condition, overall (Excellent considering it's age). Box has some very minor shelfwear, but all corners still intact. About 99% of this game is still unpunched - including armies.

Opening Bid: $40
BIN: $50
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Box Condition:
Very Good condition, overall - Excellent considering it's age. Box has some very minor shelfwear, but all corners still intact.


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Excellent. About 99% of this game is still unpunched - including armies.


Version/Language Info:

Avalon Hill - aka "Samurai Swords"/English, not the version pictured.

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Free within the US, first $10 covered anywhere else.
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"Samurai Swords" (not "Ikusa") edition.

Relic of my youth!

Never opened - still in original shrinkwrap


Free shipping continental U.S. - up to $15 covered elsewhere.
 
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Edition: "Shogun" (not "Ikusa") edition.

Condition: Really great condition components, even for a more recent game. The box however, is not great looking.

Inventoried game and there are some extra pieces, so this will only cover the differences from what should be in box:
+2 ronin, +2 coin, -4 cards(have all province cards; the 4 missing are blanks), +3 red spearmen, +5 blue spearmen, +4 orange spearmen, +3 green spearmen, -1 green gun, +2 purple spearmen. Three ronin have broken swords(2 of those 3 are extras) and there are 3 other units with broken spears(still can tell what unit type easily though), but those are units in excess of what the game calls for so not an issue.

The box is in worse shape than I remember with a split corner and the dent in the box is bigger than I remember, but you can see for yourself. Contents are still in great shape and the map is perfect. I'd say this is perfect for people wanting to play that don't care about the box or people wanting to relive their childhood.










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Milton Bradley Shogun edition as pictured. Has a few broken and missing pieces for some items and some extra pieces for others. I would classify it as acceptable condition, overall. $7.99 from Savers.
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If you are parting it out I am looking for two of the swords. I'd be willing to pay for shipping etc. Send me a geekmail if you are. Thanks.
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Perfect Condition. Played once.

Buy it now: £40
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Nic Haynes
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Dropped price...I'm trying to give a deal and still get something for them
 
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Box Condition:
Very Good condition, overall - Excellent considering it's age. Box has some very minor shelfwear, but all corners still intact.


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Excellent. About 99% of this game is still unpunched - including armies.


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Avalon Hill - aka "Samurai Swords"/English, not the version pictured.

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Edition: "Shogun" (not "Ikusa") edition.

Condition: Really great condition components, even for a more recent game. The box however, is not great looking.

Inventoried game and there are some extra pieces, so this will only cover the differences from what should be in box:
+2 ronin, +2 coin, -4 cards(have all province cards; the 4 missing are blanks), +3 red spearmen, +5 blue spearmen, +4 orange spearmen, +3 green spearmen, -1 green gun, +2 purple spearmen. Three ronin have broken swords(2 of those 3 are extras) and there are 3 other units with broken spears(still can tell what unit type easily though), but those are units in excess of what the game calls for so not an issue.

The box is in worse shape than I remember with a split corner and the dent in the box is bigger than I remember, but you can see for yourself. Contents are still in great shape and the map is perfect. I'd say this is perfect for people wanting to play that don't care about the box or people wanting to relive their childhood.










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Met a fellow geek today thanks to this game (and the other two listed below), which I snatched up just before he came around the corner!

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The game is %105 complete (a few extra tokens and two extra soldiers for each army) right down to the paper mailing insert. All the pieces are immaculate. Even the rulebook is crisp. A handsome game indeed!

Just this Saturday I enjoyed a session of Axis and Allies, so I think I can get the guys to go for another GameMaster game...

$1.99 at Goodwill.
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Why isn't it called Samurai Swords anymore?
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Drew Hicks
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One player (also prone to AP) spent huge amounts of time planning each turn, ultimately placing her koku every turn into building castles and fortresses on widely scattered choke points (all the sea routes, all the paths onto the small islands) she controlled from the game's random distribution. She didn't levy enough troops ever to make any aggressive moves, and lost a huge number of territories early on, but those castles (full of troops and generals) remained on the board. She never established a solid territory of her own and instead sat in these castles, safe in the knowledge that anyone who amassed and spent forces attacking her would be devoured from all other sides. She was far from winning, but made aggression towards her (or through her) a losing proposition. She basically became an obstacle.

Stuck in a dumb stalemate, the game took several hours longer than it should have, and everyone hated it (including me).

I know the game isn't supposed to play this way, but can't convince the other players that it's usually a much shorter game than that.
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I played Samurai Swords twice, and both times you would get to a point where one person would suddenly sweep across the board (like in risk) and win the game, which is fine, there has to be a winner. The point is we could have just played risk and saved a bunch of time.
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Ninja that general. That is the game equalizer, success is determined by the roll of the dice, but very much worth the risk if an enemy's general is getting out of hand.
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There are so many good strategies for breaking Turtles in Shogun/Ikusa. Now that you know her strategy it will be easy to crush her good.
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charlieturtle wrote:
There are so many good strategies for breaking Turtles in Shogun/Ikusa. Now that you know her strategy it will be easy to crush her good.


It wasn't ever a matter of her being a problem in terms of winning the game. It was simply that she spent her resources building castles for several straight turns, castles which then blocked key routes on the board for other players.

She ended up essentially being a "buffer" between most of the major factions, either of which moving to take one of the castles would have probably resulted in the other player crushing them on the next round due to the loss of troops.

Since spending troops attacking those castles was a losing proposition, the game got sort of stuck.

Cynosure wrote:
Does your group not make use of temporary alliances, in such games? An obvious if not deliberate stalemate (or some other game interfering/spoiling ploy) being caused by one player, can (and should!) be countered by a temporary alliance between two or more of the other players.

Temporary alliances are within the spirit of this type of game, and most of the rulebooks for this type of game explicitly state that such agreements between players are allowed and even encouraged, in the game.


Obviously alliances are encouraged.

Alliances are also broken, especially when someone loses most of their troops attempting to push through a wall of fortresses.

In fact, taking advantage of the weakness afterward is the only reason I can think of to ally with someone and allow them to try and take a fortress.
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It wasn't ever a matter of her being a problem in terms of winning the game. It was simply that she spent her resources building castles for several straight turns, castles which then blocked key routes on the board for other players.

That's fairly easy to counter though. Just build castles, too. When there's just a few of them left in our games, everybody starts building them
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Nice! a grail for me!
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Wow, they hardly ever have anything worthwhile at that GW. Nice find.
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Hiddnfox wrote:
Nice! a grail for me!


How do you say 'ditto' in Japanese?
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MikeTuna wrote:
Wow, they hardly ever have anything worthwhile at that GW. Nice find.


What he said.
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I have fond memories of playing this with friends in the late 70's. Fun times.
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MikeTuna wrote:
Wow, they hardly ever have anything worthwhile at that GW. Nice find.


What he said.


What he said.
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MB Shogun version pictured. Box wear from storage. Components are in excellent condition and complete except missing original rules - instead I have a bound photocopy of the rules.
 
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Box is showing its age. Contents are in good condition. Will only deliver to TABScon.
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All the gamemasters needed a decent sized table. But needing to keep your player boxes on the table gave the need for a large surface.
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Player order is decided by a random draw of swords (at least in my Samurai Swords edition). Unless you really want to go first and than you can simply pay for the privilege.
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Box Condition:
Very Good condition, overall - Excellent considering it's age. Box has some very minor shelfwear, but all corners still intact.


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Excellent. About 99% of this game is still unpunched - including armies.


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Avalon Hill - aka "Samurai Swords"/English

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Edition: "Shogun" (not "Ikusa") edition.

Condition: Really great condition components, even for a more recent game. The box however, is not great looking.

Update:
Inventoried game and realized I have some extra pieces, so this will only cover the differences from what should be in box:
+2 ronin, +2 coin, -4 cards(have all province cards; the 4 missing are blanks), +3 red spearmen, +5 blue spearmen, +4 orange spearmen, +3 green spearmen, -1 green gun, +2 purple spearmen. Three ronin have broken swords(2 of those 3 are extras) and there are 3 other units with broken spears(still can tell what unit type easily though), but those are units in excess of what the game calls for so not an issue.

In comments I am including images of the broken units and box. The box is in worse shape than I remember with a split corner and the dent in the box is bigger than I remember, but you can see for yourself. Contents are still in great shape and the map is perfect. I'd say this is perfect for people wanting to play that don't care about the box or people wanting to relive their childhood.







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Shockingly modern for a game released in the 80s.
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We were playing late one night and one of us said,
"Hey! Attack me. Big Koku over here." In attempt to goad the player into some sort of positional trap. 'Koku' is of course the unit of currency in MB's Shogun strategy game. . .

20 years later, we still use this phrase any time we attempt to Goad another player into taking an action, regardless of games system or the irrelevancy of ancient Japanese currency:

"Dude, why are you attacking me? Look at Mike, he's got Big Koku over there."
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And twenty years later, my friends and I will still say of any resource planning/spending in a game "Ok, it's time to allocate koku."

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On my way into Everett, I decided to swing by the St. Vinnies and see what they had. I was not disappointed. First off, this bad boy (version pictured.) Appears to be complete, everything was baggied just the way I like! Box lid was split on one corner; not that big a deal, as I will probably hang on to it. I'll do an inventory later to make sure its all there.

Samurai Swords. $3.99, at St. Vincent DePaul

Meanwhile, down the aisle...
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Sooooo Jealous!!!
I wish Gamemaster series would show up here. Only thing I have found are like a billion Axis & Allies games.....
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  • Posted Thu Feb 2, 2012 1:24 am
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Board Game: Ikusa [Average Rating:7.05 Overall Rank:327]
James Pinnion
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Would this be too much; perhaps? I imagine your group would bid highly for the ninja!
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