The Hotness
Games|People|Company
Dominion: Dark Ages
Fantastiqa
Mage Knight: Board Game
Mice and Mystics
Eclipse
Among the Stars
Collapsible D: The Final Minutes of the Titanic
Thunder Road
Agricola: All Creatures Big and Small
Lords of Waterdeep
Descent: Journeys in the Dark (Second Edition)
Dungeon Fighter
Virgin Queen
Skyline
The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game
A Game of Thrones: The Board Game (Second Edition)
Twilight Struggle
Dominion
Android: Netrunner
1989: Dawn of Freedom
Agricola
The Big Bang Theory: The Party Game
Total War
Arkham Horror
7 Wonders
Village
Dungeon Command: Sting of Lolth
Wrong Chemistry
The Castles of Burgundy
Ace of Spies
War of the Ring
Through the Ages: A Story of Civilization
Alien Frontiers
Ora et Labora
Le Havre
Kingdom Builder
Twilight Imperium (third edition)
Trajan
Glory to Rome
The Swarm
Race for the Galaxy
Caylus
Battlestar Galactica
Tammany Hall
Small World
Zombicide
Hawaii
Quarriors! Quarmageddon
Power Grid
Space Alert

Geeklists for China: Grenzstreitigkeiten

Hide All Comments

Board Game: China: Grenzstreitigkeiten [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
Spiros Kangas
Greece
Patra
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Professionally printed on a 3mm thick paper hardboard, A2 size.
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 0 comments
Board Game: China: Grenzstreitigkeiten [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
Keefe Pang
Singapore
Singapore
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Since BGG Store has released CHina - Embassies, Why not the previous PnP expansions?
3 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 0 comments
Board Game: China: Grenzstreitigkeiten [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
Zé Mário
Portugal
Senhora da Hora
Matosinhos
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
http://spiele-aus-timbuktu.de/planneu.html
7 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 0 comments
Board Game: China: Grenzstreitigkeiten [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
Mr. Bunny
Canada
Calgary
Alberta
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Not sure if this would count as a game but according to some stats, this is the most unusual game I own. I made this print-n-play map by myself.

Printed it, mounted it on cardboard and modpodged it

It's a fun map.

Apparently only 11 users have rated it. Though there are 35 owners.

I like this map.
4 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 0 comments
Board Game: China: Grenzstreitigkeiten [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
Drew
United States
Eau Claire
Wisconsin
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Goa ended just before midnight, and the general rule is, if it's before midnight, we must play something else.

I'd recently made myself a copy of the "Border Wars" map for China, and had been bringing it each time in the hopes of trying it. This time we got a chance. Mark had to leave so it was just three of us. We also used the fortifications and the mini-expansion (China Erweiterung) for some extra scoring. Though China provides 50-pt cards to indicate when you've "lapped" the score track, I'd never seen them used before. But with extra scoring for harbors, double-points from fortifications, and extra points from the bonus chips, we all lapped the track easily.

I can't say the "Border Wars" map felt all that different to me, but I liked the addition of scoring all the harbors together as a region. I also can't say I consciously attempted to collect particular sets of bonus chips (the mini-expansion) but I think I was still unconsciously swayed in the placement of my houses, because I ended up with 5 red chips, an easy majority.

But Craig, who I believe has played this game far more than either Dan or I, won easily.

Final scores:

Craig - 80
Dan - 61
Drew - 61

Anyway, it was a nice change of pace . . .
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Craig Davern
United States
Chippewa Falls
Wisconsin
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Yes, a nice change of pace from the 2+ hours after Goa. I would of liked to get Stone Age to the table, but I also felt we would be better off playing games the rest of the night we all knew, without having to get into more rules explanation.

I'll take the victory, but this game is still a struggle for me. You must manage your monestaries for the end game bonus. The fortificaitons were a nice twist.

I felt the different board, the harbors, the fortificaitons and the China Erweiterung were great suttle expansions or varitaions to the game, and done very well. Unlike some games (like El Grande, Puerto Rico, Fisherman for Settlers, etc.) where the expansions are just more coin for the game board companies
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Sun Jun 15, 2008 5:50 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Drew
United States
Eau Claire
Wisconsin
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
People typically consider this "best with three." I might agree. I know that with more than three it starts to get chaotic and it's harder to get long chains. But how long was your chain of houses, anyway? 8? And then doubled because of the Fortifications. Wow.

 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:28 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Daniel Lunsford
United States
Chippewa Falls
Wisconsin
mbmbmb
My losing strategy was to go after bonus chips. I found myself opening up territories for their chips. Of course, it didn't help that I didn't have any cards that matched until later in the game. (I couldn't have placed two houses even if I wanted.) What kept my score up was a presence almost everywhere. Whenever someone else scored, I got to count the number of houses it took for them to claim the province. Usually, this was a large majority.

I would have done better to worry less about the bonuses and more about conventional scoring. Next time, I'll be more careful to balance my strategy.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Tue Jun 17, 2008 3:14 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Board Game: China: Grenzstreitigkeiten [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
J C Lawrence
United States
Campbell
California
designer
Avatar
Takes China, which isn't as good as Web of Power, and brings it back into contention. Slightly deeper, more confrontational, slightly better rewards for card counters, and of course and like the rest, best with exactly three players.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 0 comments
Board Game: China: Grenzstreitigkeiten [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
J C Lawrence
United States
Campbell
California
designer
Avatar
Right/Left Binding

Otherwise known as Player to the left of the newbie wins! Blech. It is each players role to lean on the player to their left, to do their damnedest to ensure that the player to their left has the absolute minimal chance to ever gain an advantage while meanwhile also fighting against the similar attempted suppression coming from the player to the right. And yet there are a few games I like which rely on this damnable feature. China - Borderfights, like most card games, relies on right/left binding heavily. For me it is saved purely by the fact that it plays in 45 minutes and features a considerably more complex relationship and incentive/disincentive pattern than just right/left binding. If either of those things were missing then it would be right out. Likewise for Web of Power and China.
2 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
Richard Irving
United States
Salinas
California
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Unfortunately, the only way to prevent this problem is to reduce interaction, so that it doesn't matter what play the newbie makes.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Sun Dec 3, 2006 2:39 am
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Colin Hunter
New Zealand
Auckland
Stop the admins removing history from the Wargaming forum.
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
I agree with your sentiment "person to the left of the newbie wins" but i don't know if it is huge problem... you can always play without newbs.
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Sun Dec 3, 2006 10:44 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Sam Carroll
United States
Champaign
Illinois
Soli Deo Gloria!
badge
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Quote:
I agree with your sentiment "person to the left of the newbie wins" but i don't know if it is huge problem... you can always play without newbs.


. . . thereby preventing anyone else from learning the game. I hope your comment was sarcastic, but a goo or something would have made that clear.
2 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Mon Dec 4, 2006 4:09 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Stephen Groves
New Zealand
Auckland
mbmbmbmbmb
Unfortunately this is a problem with several Euro games especially where there is some "action point" limit to your moves. And it is not always newbies as the differently abled can also be relied upon to give the game to the player on their left. The best you can do is tactfully offer advice regarding the consequences of a players actions(or not so tactfully if you play with my gaming group). Besides, any competitive games player knows they would have won if they were sitting in that position at the table
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Mon Dec 4, 2006 11:25 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Brian Mc Cabe
United States

Arizona
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
I don't understand the complaint of the player to the left of the newcomer winning.

Who cares if in one game a player wins becaue of the location of the newb?

If it's that big a problem, draw straws or keep track of who had the newb to his left last and share the wealth.

Relatively speaking, it isn't like a huge percentage of the games have a new player. Or put him to the right of the worse player, who isn't going to win, anyway.

Brian
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • Posted Fri Sep 10, 2010 9:44 pm
    • Choose your Dice
      • Roll
      • Comment (Optional)
    • Reply
    •  
    • Quote
Board Game: China: Grenzstreitigkeiten [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
Dave Eisen
United States
Silicon Valley
California
mbmbmbmb
 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 0 comments
Board Game: China: Grenzstreitigkeiten [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked] [Average Rating:7.78 Unranked]
Michael Christopher
United States
Seattle
Washington
designer
Avatar
mbmbmbmbmb
Spiele aus Timbuktu offers three expansions for Chine:

A 2-player variant, a small expansion that was given away at Essen '05 and an alternate game board.

http://www.spiele-aus-timbuktu.de/index0.html
1 
 Thumb up
 tip
 Thumb up
  • 0 comments
Front Page | Welcome | Contact | Privacy Policy | Terms of Service | Advertise | Support BGG | Feeds RSS
Geekdo, BoardGameGeek, the Geekdo logo, and the BoardGameGeek logo are trademarks of BoardGameGeek, LLC.