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Board Game: Russian Civil War 1918-1922 (first edition) [Average Rating:6.88 Overall Rank:2234]
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TOTAL PLAYS: 6

Face to face: 2
Solitaire: 4


I was introduced to this 1976 game at my weeknight game group. We played it twice and it's a blast! By luck, Decision Games was just about to republish this (listed as Russian Civil War 1918-1922 (second edition)[/]), so I grabbed it and played some solitaire games (there is a solitaire scenario), too. (I listed all my plays under first edition, for some reason.)

A session report from one of our four-player games:

A somewhat impressionistic report of a wild Russian Civil War, with a surprise ending
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Another appearance of pink; this time from SPI.

I like the 2nd edition recently done by Miranda and gang. Game map from that version below:

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A blast of a multiplayer game. Good recent S&T reprint also.
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Box good, contents very good. Free U.S. shipping, first $10 elsewhere.
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Box good, contents very good. Free U.S. shipping, first $10 elsewhere.
 
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At the same table was this, punched but complete (I counted them!)
Was informed the next day that this was reprinted in S&T but would have purchased it anyway....

$10
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Part of a larger stash (see above)

Cost £2.86.
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this has some resale value.
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The game that pioneered the practice of killing your own units for victory points.
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acceptable: game player's version. I played it a lot decades ago and it shows. Pieces that go in the cup are worn. a couple pieces are missing with replacements made. The mounted board is in exc cond though. The box is damaged because tape was used on it by a mover, but no corners are broken.

Free within CONUS & first $10 elsewhere
 
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Game on the list is actually Mr.Miranda's recent 2nd addition from S&T. Hats off to S&T for updating. Like the new rules/chrome/map. But, ohhh, those counters...
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Honestly, I don't think the new counters are that bad!
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I don't think the old game needed updating -
but I'm very very glad that it got a reprint.
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wifwendell wrote:
Honestly, I don't think the new counters are that bad!


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With it's light mechanics and easy play,
this is where this belongs.
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Classic multiplayer about the Russian Civil War. Recently re-issued by S&T (the version I own and would like to give a try).

Chaos, conflict, chrome, backstabbing, etc.
 
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posted by Lancer4321 of Washington; USA
 
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Played FOUR solo games of the new Decision Games version this evening, in about two hours (not counting setup, which was already done).

Seems tough for the Reds. Three games ended extremely quickly, with enemy forces in Moscow and/or St Petersburg. The fourth game, the Reds avoided early calamity but could not quite eradicate the core of the country (Greater Russia, White Russia, Don Cossacks, Ukraine) of enemy units in time to get a win.

Quite different from the multiplayer version, but interesting.
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Is the reprint a solo game Wendell?

Lord help me, the counters are ridiculous though.
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Is the reprint a solo game Wendell?

Lord help me, the counters are ridiculous though.


The reprint is for 1-6 players. Solitaire rules are quite different from the multiplayer rules.

In fact, the rules say you can play with MORE than six if you want, but you would have to make up control markers for players beyond six.
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So, DG has included solo rules for the reprint? If so, that's pretty cool...
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Nice! Another solitaire game on my radar!

Question: Is the reprint readily available? And from where?
Answer (my own question per usual): Current issue of S&T.


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When was it out? I have this one on order.
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hammurabi70 wrote:
When was it out? I have this one on order.


The current S&T (267 I think); I received my copy about 3 weeks ago.
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Yeah, I know it came out in 1976. But I'd never played it. Played two four-player games in January, and WOW I like this game. Chaotic, full of back-stabbing and double-crossing and Czar-murdering. Really, what's not to like? I just wish I'd discovered it earlier because my teenaged/college era game groups would have LOVED this game, like Kingmaker on the Volga.

AND - a new edition is coming out in the March edition of Strategy & Tactics. I've already ordered it.
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Board Game: Russian Civil War 1918-1922 (first edition) [Average Rating:6.88 Overall Rank:2234]
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We started a four-player game of the Russian Civil War last night. Half-way thru the game (I'm guessing, never played before) after a good start, things look bad for the White Russian forces. The Tsar is dead, too. The British have pulled out, the Poles are invading. Bunch of lesser Red leaders have bitten the dust, but White forces are now in full retreat and mostly holed up in the Trans-Caucasus. I don't think I can win, but the game is a lot of fun.

I wish I'd had this game when SPI first released it in the '70s. It would have been PERFECT for my game group back then! Multiplayer (2-6). Diplomacy, treachery, backstabbing, combat, executing nobles (well, the Tsar anyway). Shifting factions. Random force allocation. Kind of like Kingmaker on the Volga!
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I am excited that this is going to be re-released. I hope against all hope that Decision Games will produce a beautiful package.

Personally I think this game could really use the Euro treatment, cubes and all.
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It will take time with DG anyways...
Ans please no cubes!!! cool
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I misspoke, I was thinking of blocks, but used lying on their "backs" as they are in Worthington's Clash for a Continent: Battles of the American Revolution and French & Indian War series.

You know, pimp this thing!

Of course, I'd no more ask Decision Games to pimp a reprint than I'd ask ... sorry, I've got nothing here. :-D

 
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We finished this last night. Wild end-game, a maelstrom of suicide attacks, assassinations, and death.

But I don't know who won.

Further details in this session report: A somewhat impressionistic report of a wild Russian Civil War, with a surprise ending
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But I don't know who won.


So you got the historical result.
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citizen k wrote:
wifwendell wrote:

But I don't know who won.


So you got the historical result.




Reminds me of the comment attributed I think to Chou En-Lai, a Chinese Communist leader. When asked aroud 1960 or 1970 what he thought of the French Revolution, he said "it's too soon to tell." (or words to that effect)

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Strategy & Tactics magazine is doing a special edition with a redesign of this game in a couple of months.
Strategy & Tactics Issue #267
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I am working with the new Decision Games update which will be released soon in an S&T magazine double issue.
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Cool, how do you like it?
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I like it quite well. I have not played the original, but this seems to be close, with a few tweaks. Joe Miranda added anarchists to the mix.

I am playing a four player game solo. I keep forgeting who I am.shake
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I'd love to see this game updated and given a deluxe Euro treatment - to could appeal to a wide audience - in a genre I like to call "educational Euros" - Euros beyond the mindless worker placement pap.

Sadly, I'd no more trust Decision Games to give a game "the deluxe" treatment than I'd expect a politician to tell the truth.
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I recently achieved a long standing (30 year!) ambition to get my hands on this beauty (SPI version that is). Is there anybody out there with a Vassal or CB?
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Great, fun game.
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Pick youself up a copy of this for your group. Playtime 3 to 4 hours if I recall correctly. A blast. Short rules. Unique game where each player controls both the REDs and the WHITEs and manipulates things to have the side win that most favors them.
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I have SUCH fond memories of this game, and it's interesting from a game design standpoint too because you switch sides, sit on the fence, etc., which captures the political nature of the war really well; one of Jim Dunnigan's best and soon to be republished by Strategy & Tactics.
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When I saw this cover for the first time, it made me want to dive right in. One of the most haunting box covers of all time.
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I no longer have this, but actually it had a lot going for it. You didn't control a specific side in the war, but could back parts of different forces. Reminds me of Imperial in that way.
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I still play this every couple years, with alot of the expansion rules and counters I found on the web. I have my edited rules with all uploaded on BGG. I have alot of other RCW games but still think this one comes closest to the feel of my readings on the period.
 
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Recently "revised" and re-published in S&T #267.
 
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Very clever mechanics allowed players to play both sides at once.
 
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