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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Philip Newman
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Match 88: Container vs. Chicago Express
/ Wabash Cannonball


Round 2: Container (19), Medici (16)
Round 1: Container (18), Fauna (13), Thunder
Alley (8)
Nominated by: Jugular, larryjrice
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
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 8   Cuba Libre
 6   Qwirkle
 8   Cockroach Poker
 N/A   Splendor NEW!
 9   Container
 5   Coloretto x2
 4   Cards Against Humanity x3
 5   Yardmaster Express
 5   Dominant Species: The Card Game

Got up early this morning and played DS:tCG and YE with my boys.

Yesterday I started a unit on games with my EFL students. Years ago I'd made a student-safe version of CaH for classroom use. I finally brought it to class and it was a huge hit. Funny thing: my military/police and history majors had no idea even what the concept of sexting (the raciest card in my deck) was. My natural science majors did, and all admitted to having either sent or received sexts.

A colleague taught me Splendor. I've played worse.

Two great gaming highlights this week. The first was basking in Cuba Libre victory for all of 6 hours before learning of the undercover cop who took it from me. Though I should say that it was the compliments of my fellow gelati that really made me smile.

Second was a no-holds-barred Game Club session with Container (whose rating I've upped to a 9). It wasn't apparent to me right away because I was a bit too focused on my own thing, but I soon realized I was positioned for my first big win at this tremendous game. My hunch was correct, as I trounced the field 167-148-113-85-78. (Not to say my acumen doesn't need work: I'd thought the guy with 78 points was my main competition.) Nevertheless an evening I'd be happy to re-create anytime. One last wrinkle: the scarcity of the game (and the only oringinal copyin our group moving away in September) drove one of our fellowship to hand-craft his own out of balsa wood. Looks pretty good, too:



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Cuba Libre x2 (one Gelati, one here in the office)
1989 x2 (Wendell and Roger)

Acquisitions
Hoping to report that Falling Sky is shipping by this time next week...
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
O.Shane Balloun
United States
Bellingham
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The games that represent my profession the best are: Container, Panamax, Francis Drake, Pirate's Cove, Blackbeard, etc.
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Very good. Includes the expansion, Container: The Second Shipment (components only, no box, very good).
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Andy Mesa
United States
Portland
Oregon
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I finally got me a copy of this yesterday and put it on the table tonight. We played with five, and it was everyone's first game except my friend Jacob who had played once before. It was...a weird game.

Everyone's goods seemed overpriced to me from the start, and worse yet, people paid for them. I kept doing the math in my head thinking I must be playing this game wrong, or people know something I don't. I would put in bids and be way overbid by someone else. People kept taking out loans and overbidding, and other people would get huge payouts, and I was afraid I was missing out.

As the game went on, there were less and less containers available, and none on my side of the island. I was getting worried, and often considered buying my own goods, but objectively couldn't when I was being offered more than they were worth to me. Because I was always flush with cash, I never took out a loan.



So how'd it turn out? This was the final haul before removing containers. I only had two containers on the island after removal. I won with $122, only one other player cracked $100. Even if I had zero containers on the island, I still would've won.

So yeah, definitely a game where people need to know how to value things. The math seemed simple to me, but I guess not so much to everyone else.

It's an interesting game, though honestly I'd rather play Goa or Neue Heimat. I'll try it out as many more times as people will let me over the next month and update my thoughts.
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I haven't rated any game 10 and only nine games have gotten a 9 from me so far so it's quite easy for me to find out. Container is the game with the lowest average rating and it isn't low: 7.10

If I go down to 8 then MarraCash would be the one with 6.84.
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
George Leach
United Kingdom
Godalming
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 N/A   Specter Ops NEW!

So I got Container to the table for the third time in a month I believe. It was a good play as everyone seemed to enjoy it. I suspect I could fairly easily get it to the table again if I tried. Which I may do in future.

Then we played a Mister X / Scotland Yard game for the Kickstarter generation; Specter Ops. Poorly written rules (or at least, poorly explained), slightly stilted theming, BOOOTIFUL miniatures and pretty decent gameplay (if we played right). I'd play again though (just with some rule clarifications!)

Work
 9   Santorini x6

I convinced a Greek work colleague (Stelio for those LoBsters who might know him) to play Santorini which was an easy sell. He really enjoyed it especially when I brought the God abilities in after three plain games. Really good time thinking through the paths.

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 9   Catchup x2
 9   Mini Shogi
 10   Go

With Sophie (eldest)
 8   Loopin' Louie x2
 6   Ker Plunk x2

She still can't quite work out Loopin' Louie. I think it really needs four players to make some sense to her. we have a bee themed version of Kerplunk which she really enjoys, and frankly I quite enjoy setting it up. The little bees really help.
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Philip Newman
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Match 60: Container vs. Medici

Round 1: Container (18), Fauna (13), Thunder Alley (8)
Nominated by: Jugular, larryjrice
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Dan
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The economic themes developed in this game are fantastic!

Inflation or deflation
Government subsidies
Supply/Demand
Opportunity Cost
etc.

For an excellent review, read: https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/299037/container-review

Here are some excerpts:

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The endless run of economic games where it's impossible to lose money does become tiresome at some point; how can it be a real economic game if you always come out ahead no matter how badly you play?


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...the capacity for the occasional train wreck is a side-effect of Container being as interesting and authentic as it is.


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So, Container is pretty unforgiving of uncomprehending play. Fair enough. But for players who can grasp the fairly straightforward but subtly textured economics here, Container is tremendously rewarding. With wall-to-wall tough choices, an economy that evolves and grows in interesting ways that require the players to constantly adapt, relentless pacing, tough money management choices, and a great deal of freedom for players to develop their own economic models along fundamentally different lines, Container is a great game.
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Philip Newman
United States
Richardson
Texas
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Match 19: Thunder Alley vs. Container vs. Fauna

Nominated by: Jugular, larryjrice
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Matt Highfill
United States
Boston
MA
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Jon
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Urbana
Illinois
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Games Played:

_8_ Panamax x1
New to Will and Mindy. I had a lot of fees in the final round which knocked me out.
James 113
Will 102
Mindy 104
Jon 88

_9_ Container x1
After Panamax taught this to Will and James. They both started heavy in container production while I grabbed some warehouses and brought over the first few auctions. Lost one auction by a dollar that I really wanted.
Will 59
Jon 49
James 33

_8_ Panamax x1
New to Greg and Rachel. Youngest son didn't do well but says he enjoyed the game. A lot of cross investing in this game.
Greg 137
Jon 101
Rachel 83
Youngest son 82
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Chris Klarmann
United States
Staten Island
New York
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
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Germany
Munich
Bavaria
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Item for Geeklist "All for your lovely games ❤✩♛"
 
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
George Leach
United Kingdom
Godalming
Surrey
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 8   TZAAR
 8   Hex
 N/A   Dameo x2 - This really isn't as fun a game as Christian Freeling makes out. Sure, it might be a slight improvement on International Checkers and the various national games out there but it's only slight.
 8   Amazons

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 8   Container - I tried getting UR to the table but we needed a 5er so I got to teach Container to a table of newbies. I explained the money coming into and out of the economy and they decided it would be best to just copy what I did for the first two turns. Then they decided they would carry on buying warehouses/factories/producing and almost tanked the economy. Just before my third turn I pointed out that £70 of the £100 starting money had left the economy of the game. This seemed to wake them up but it did make for a slightly stilted fist half of the game. I won handily when I received a bid of £25 for a full set of 5 containers which I'd bought for £10. That tidy £40 profit set me up for a comfortable win after having been blocked out of the market for all of the mid-game. Great fun. Hopefully I'll get it played again. I've vowed to keep taking the same four games to the club until I have played them all three times there.
 8   Codenames x2 - A nice closer to gather players finishing other games. I was paired with someone on my wavelength and we cleaned the opposition's clocks twice over.

With Family
 7   Cartagena - With Kathryn. She quite enjoys it but this time, one on one, I won handily.
 N/A   Guess Who? NEW! - Taught this to Sophie who enjoyed asking questions but wasn't all that good at removing options or asking good questions!
 7   Animal Upon Animal - Played this with Sophie though she just wanted to watch me do everything I still count her as being involved.
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Jason Obermeyer
United States
Irvine
California
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4/7/16: Downloaded the redesign.
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GeekList: 2016 PnP Projects
Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Garry Rice
United States
Perkasie
Pennsylvania
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Downloaded the files Heiko had put together and made available before he took them down again due to Valley Games no longer having the rights to the game. I've never tried this, and I'm not sure it's really my type of game...but I'm curious to give it a try, and I like the redesign...so I'm giving it a try

Status:
(1) Printed out most of the files, although I need to wait until some supplies come in to finish it up: 4/7.
(2) Cash and loan cards completed: 4/10.
(3) Counted out the plastic cm cubes needed for the 5 sets of 20 containers...I'm not thrilled with my brown color as it's very close to black in poorer lighting...
(4) Completed all the boards in the game (mounting) and the five end game scoring cards: 4/16
(5) Ordered parts for the warehouses and machines: 4/16. Received.
(6) Need to visit my brother's woodworking shop and play around with his bandsaw and drill to see if I can put the boat together with wood instead of the foam board...we'll see
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
David B
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Virginia
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Have you ever dreamed of shipping clandestine containers to a mysterious island? Live your dream in this Dharma Initiative inspired game.
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Kevin Young

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Arizona
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Trying to get one with the 2nd shipment.

PM me if interested in selling/trading.
 
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Geoff
United States
Natick
Massachusetts
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I keep getting thwarted in my attempts to gather people to play Container. Surely a gathering of this size should be large enough to fill a table.

And apparently it is! Full up

Sunday 3pm. Yell if something changes and this time isn't good for you anymore.

Location TBD

1. Geoff / imyourskribe
2. Agent Emme / mmazala
3. Aaron / beek
4. Rory / roary11oreo
5. Jeremy / jrmytllmn
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Steve S
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Rockford
Illinois
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Got 'er done... something to hold me over until the reprint comes out in a year or two (we hope)....


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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
Garret Wehrman
United States
Garden Grove
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This is the first PnP project that I decided to take on. Container is a game that's been on my radar for some time now and when I saw Heiko's redesign I instantly knew that this was where I was going to dive into the PnP world.

I wouldn't classify myself as an extremely artsy person but I did do a lot of crafts when I was younger with my grandmother so assembling a PnP should be within my skillset. I am somewhat of a perfectionist so when I pursue something, I want it to turn our spectacular, so I did a lot of research before starting this PnP about how to make everything the best it could be. Ideally, I wanted someone to pick up this box and have no idea that I was the one who put it together, not a publishing company.

The first thing I researched was printing and how to go about it. I have a basic inkjet and while it's usable this wasn't going to do the job I had in mind. I debated between printing on full page labels and sticking them to chipboard or printing on card stock and mounting it with adhesive spray. Ultimately, I went with the card stock and decided to get a couple of test copies printed at my local Staples but ultimately the quality wasn't what I was looking for. I ended up going to a local print shop and the quality difference was amazing. I had everything printed on high quality 110 pound card stock that has a little bit of a glossy finish and I think it really adds to the prints. I was very happy with how the prints turned out and I will definitely be printing all future PnP projects with them.




After I got everything printed I also picked up a key item to use during the course of this project, a rotary cutter. I've always used a utility knife but I read that a rotary cutter may be better suited for long straight cuts and I couldn't agree more. I didn't get any small tears while using the rotary cutter, something that could happen on occasion with the utility knife, and it was so much easier to stand and apply pressure as you roll the rotary cutter.



I cut out all the money, scoring cards and loan cards with the rotary cutter and I was astounded with how straight my cuts were. I took my time and lined everything up and was really pleased with how everything came out. Here are some pictures of the money that Heiko designed and I think they look terrific.





I did change one thing from Heiko's original redesign and that was one of the colors of the containers. I wanted to change the color of the goldish brown container because I wasn't the biggest fan and I know that the expansion uses gold containers so I wanted to avoid that if that's something I pursue down the line. I reached out in Heiko's thread if anyone could help me and Steve was able to point me in the right direction by recommending that I use GIMP. As you may have guessed by now, I don't have any skills in Photoshop but after watching a Youtube video I was able to easily change the color from a goldish brown to a royal blue with the nifty magic wand. This may seem like a simple edit for some of you but I was really proud of my work I also decided to score the container cards on the fold which helped out a bunch and ultimately I decided to store them in sleeves (mini Euro) and because of the thickness I ended up not having to glue them together. Had I still been using the smaller scaled version of my prints the container cards would not have fit as well in the sleeves and ultimately would have not looked as good.




I did run into a problem with the loan cards in that when printed on the front and back of the same page that the loans don't line up correctly as you'll see in the picture below with the loan on the right. So ultimately I decided to stick them into sleeves as well and that seemed to do the trick although I may reprint them and score them as I did with the container cards for a cleaner look.




Finally, all my wooden bits arrived and I was ready to start painting. The factories only came in grey so I decided to order grey cubes as well to ensure that everything would match once painted.




I started off great while painting blue, black and white but red and yellow really gave me a lot of trouble. As soon as I sprayed the cubes yellow I realized I should have primed them white first but I ordered a couple extra sets so I'll be redoing those in a few weeks and I think red wasn't drying as fast as the other colors so when I went over them they stuck to the newspaper. I was able to clean most of them up but these will be getting redone as well. Overall I think everything came out really nice and I'm really happy with the color blue that I picked to replace the brownish gold container.




Next were the boats. I used Super 77 adhesive spray as it was recommended by a lot of people here on BGG and I was really happy with it. After I sprayed it on I had about 20-30 seconds to line everything up before it bonded and the strength of the hold is amazing. The boats gave me a lot of problems while cutting out the center piece, mainly with the two short sides. I ended up redoing a few because I wasn't happy with them and although they still aren't perfect I can live with how they turned out. All I can say is keep your blade sharp and go slow. I'd love to find someone locally who can make some wooden versions of the boats as I think those would look great and that may be something I look into in the future.




So now all the components are done and the last thing to do is the box. I posted to Reddit if anyone had any tips on how to recover an old box as I was planning to cover it in a solid color and stick a decal on the front. Instead, I received more help then I could have ever asked for. A user by the name of Numpska had seen my thread and offered to help me design a box template for my box. We ended up going with the original Container cover but made a few changes including changing the font to match what Heiko used in the redesign and we replaced the photo on the back with a photo with the updated components and art. I had a hard time finding a local print shop to print it out as the final image was 14" x 18" but I was able to eventually get it printed. They used a huge printer and printed it out on 24 lb paper which looked really nice and was an ease to work with. After I got it home and cut out I went ahead and peeled off the original box art on the Keyflower box. Then I went ahead and folded the templates around the box just to have a guide while gluing. From there I just took it slow using a glue stick to create an even spread of glue one area at a time. I would glue one side down and then glue down the part that wrapped around to the inside of the box and this was pretty successful and I started each box by gluing the center area down first. In the end I am very pleased with how the box turned out.





Finally, I'd like to thank Heiko for creating this gorgeous redesign and for answering a lot of questions that I had for him. He was nothing but helpful and I appreciate him for that.

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Includes base game plus Container: The Second Shipment expansion.

SR $120
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Board Game: Container [Average Rating:7.10 Overall Rank:461]
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Simple, easy to hide, easy to tell apart. My favorite game currency.
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Container: The Second Shipment in shrink

One boat has a small chip. Can take a picture if desired.

UPDATE: I noticed that the black ship has a small chip as well. Pictures included.

SR: $150
BIN: $250

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John Rogers
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1) Container
2) Indonesia
3) Pax Porfiriana
4) Andean Abyss

5) Grand Cru
6) Greed Inc
7) Dominant Species
8) Reef Encounter
9) Star Trek Fleet Captains
10) Commands and Colors Ancients

1-4 are pretty solid. 5-10 are pretty fluid. Games that could easily make the cut include Vanuatu, Kaivai, Neue Heimat, Cavum, and Chicago Express.

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