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England

County of Essex

Another great game destoyed by the AAA's insistance on publishing a full list of every house in the USA that had a poster of an Autoduel arena.

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William Hostman

United States
Eagle River
Alaska

Gaming in Greater Anchorage area, Alaska since 1978. Looking for Indy-willing RPG players in Eagle River (or willing to drive to Eagle River). Geekmail me if interested.

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Expansions weren't the problem. The 5th edition killed the game by an attempt to move to a "Collectible" model.

Ok, Tanks was a bit sucky. But Boat Wars and Aeroduel both expanded the game in useful ways for those of us running it as an RPG.

Even late in the line, really, all one needed was the Compendium, some road grid, dice and some counters. And the revised compendia (2nd ed & black cover) streamlined the game a bit again.

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steven slater

England

County of Essex

aramis wrote:

Expansions weren't the problem. The 5th edition killed the game by an attempt to move to a "Collectible" model.

Ok, Tanks was a bit sucky. But Boat Wars and Aeroduel both expanded the game in useful ways for those of us running it as an RPG.

Even late in the line, really, all one needed was the Compendium, some road grid, dice and some counters. And the revised compendia (2nd ed & black cover) streamlined the game a bit again.

But it was ot really an RPG, well not at first. I wouod say that defiens a game with too many expansios, it tries to be everything.

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William Hostman

United States
Eagle River
Alaska

Gaming in Greater Anchorage area, Alaska since 1978. Looking for Indy-willing RPG players in Eagle River (or willing to drive to Eagle River). Geekmail me if interested.

Yes, this really is what I looked like when I uploaded that avatar. Not that it's quite current anymore.

slatersteven wrote:

aramis wrote:

Expansions weren't the problem. The 5th edition killed the game by an attempt to move to a "Collectible" model.

Ok, Tanks was a bit sucky. But Boat Wars and Aeroduel both expanded the game in useful ways for those of us running it as an RPG.

Even late in the line, really, all one needed was the Compendium, some road grid, dice and some counters. And the revised compendia (2nd ed & black cover) streamlined the game a bit again.

But it was ot really an RPG, well not at first. I wouod say that defiens a game with too many expansios, it tries to be everything.

It was as much an RPG in the basic pocket box as it was later. Everyone I knew who played it played it as an RPG, based upon the basic box, and it was stocked in the RPG section of all 4 game stores that carried it.

It was, from the start, about making your driver & gunner better by dueling. And the first scenario I recall seeing published was Convoy - a programmed RPG mode adventure. And RPG-mode adventures were common through the run of ADQ.

The game had two very different constituencies: The Duelists seeing it as a pocket box wargame, and the RPGers, seeing it as a rules light RPG.

Steve Jackson has a history of blurring that line: The Fantasy Trip, Car Wars, GURPS/Man-To-Man...

And in the late 80's, the line was still blurry ... many RPG's combat systems were tactical boardgames, or were adapted to/from such games: Traveller/Snapshot&Mayday, DragonQuest, Warhammer FRP 1E, Warhammer 40K (sold as a "3D roleplay game" according to the sticker on 2E), FASA-Trek, Mechwarrior/Battletech, Renegade Legion...

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Sean Westberg

(TheFlatline)

United States
Ventura
California

aramis wrote:

Expansions weren't the problem. The 5th edition killed the game by an attempt to move to a "Collectible" model.

Ok, Tanks was a bit sucky. But Boat Wars and Aeroduel both expanded the game in useful ways for those of us running it as an RPG.

Even late in the line, really, all one needed was the Compendium, some road grid, dice and some counters. And the revised compendia (2nd ed & black cover) streamlined the game a bit again.

*pets my deluxe edition with all the rules and thousands of tiny cardstock chits*

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GeekList: Games Twisted By Removing The First Letter

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Alexander McKinney

(lexifer)

The Bahamas
Nassau
na

Arr Wars

Pirates yell at each other from deck to deck.

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Posted Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:50 pm

GeekList: Your Thrift Store/Bargain Finds: 20 - 26 February 2012

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Jason Hoover

(HakFoo)

United States
Kyle
Texas

Then one last stop at a Half Price books on my way home yielded a few games at $3 each with various degrees of box damage. $3 at Half Price Books.

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Posted Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:55 pm

GeekList: Your Thrift Store/Bargain Finds: 13 - 19 February 2012

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Bryan F

(Zom B)

Canada

Four or five years ago I found this at one of my local Sally Annes, still in the plastic, mint condition. It was downstairs in the "as is" section and I believe that I paid $12CDN for it.

I still haven't found anyone to play it with me, but there was no way I could pass up such a deal on such an old, campy product.

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Posted Wed Feb 15, 2012 12:27 am

Paul Boos

(pmboos)

Spain
Falls Church
Virginia

Welcome my fellow World Thrift Citizen! Not only have you found the best community site on the 'Net, but the best subcommunity within it as well!

- First Citizen

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GeekList: Math Trade ITALIA - Febbraio 2012

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Marco Sozzi

(Thasaidon)

Italy
Pisa

Lingua: Inglese.

Dipendenza dal linguaggio: manuale in inglese.

Stato: Buone condizioni, mai giocato, pedine staccate, regolamento con segni di evidenziatore.

Spedizione: Gratuita in Italia, possibile consegna a mano a Pisa.
Se si desidera assicurazione, costo a carico del destinatario.

Note:

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Posted Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:36 pm

GeekList: Games and RPG's of My Mis-spent Youth

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

John Peterson

(scubadawg1)

United States
Normal
Illinois

Got this game on the recommendation of the local hobby store. Several of us would get together in the children's library section of the local library. We'd usually have 4 to 5 players. It was a bit of an obsession for a while.

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Posted Sun Feb 5, 2012 5:02 pm

GeekList: Games for big crowds

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Enrico Viglino

United States
Phoenix, AZ
Arizona

As big a crowd as you like really.

Run this with 15 or so players.

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Posted Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:43 am

William Hostman

United States
Eagle River
Alaska

Gaming in Greater Anchorage area, Alaska since 1978. Looking for Indy-willing RPG players in Eagle River (or willing to drive to Eagle River). Geekmail me if interested.

Yes, this really is what I looked like when I uploaded that avatar. Not that it's quite current anymore.

In RP mode, it's really only good for 3-8 players, much like most RPG's.

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Enrico Viglino

United States
Phoenix, AZ
Arizona

aramis wrote:

In RP mode, it's really only good for 3-8 players, much like most RPG's.

Did Autoduel Gurps that way, but I can't say that
feels like what I'd consider the 'Car Wars' experience.

Had a nice duel track campaign, where people had whole
stables of vehicles and drivers. The core group wasn't
big, but we'd pick up more folk at open gaming.

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William Hostman

United States
Eagle River
Alaska

Gaming in Greater Anchorage area, Alaska since 1978. Looking for Indy-willing RPG players in Eagle River (or willing to drive to Eagle River). Geekmail me if interested.

Yes, this really is what I looked like when I uploaded that avatar. Not that it's quite current anymore.

calandale wrote:

aramis wrote:

In RP mode, it's really only good for 3-8 players, much like most RPG's.

Did Autoduel Gurps that way, but I can't say that
feels like what I'd consider the 'Car Wars' experience.

Then you didn't play CW in RP mode. You played GURPS.

Never could seem to get SJG to understand the difference, either.

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Enrico Viglino

United States
Phoenix, AZ
Arizona

aramis wrote:

calandale wrote:

aramis wrote:

In RP mode, it's really only good for 3-8 players, much like most RPG's.

Did Autoduel Gurps that way, but I can't say that
feels like what I'd consider the 'Car Wars' experience.

Then you didn't play CW in RP mode. You played GURPS.

Never could seem to get SJG to understand the difference, either.

Yeah, I think I know what you mean.

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GeekList: Vrroooom! Your Favorite Movie/TV Show Cars!

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Taylor Liss

(Samort7)

United States
Quincy
Massachusetts

From Deathrace 2000:

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Posted Thu Jan 19, 2012 3:28 am

Ethan Van Vorst

(StealthDonut)

United States
Spencer
North Carolina

I liked Herman the German's car, the one with the jet engine on top.

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Taylor Liss

(Samort7)

United States
Quincy
Massachusetts

StealthDonut wrote:

I liked Herman the German's car, the one with the jet engine on top.

Bottom left I believe:

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GeekList: Vrroooom! Your Favorite Movie/TV Show Cars!

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

J.L. Robert

(J.L.Robert)

United States
Sherman Oaks
California

Take a modified '69 Dodge Charger. Add a psychotic named Stuntman Mike (played by Kurt Russell). You get the B-movie inspired goodness that is Death Proof.

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Posted Thu Jan 19, 2012 6:02 am

GeekList: 5η Ελληνική maths trade

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Nick E. Papastergiou

(nepys)

Greece
Athens

Κατάσταση: Εξαιρετική (σε ζελατίνα, όχι η εικονιζόμενη έκδοση)

Γλώσσα: Αγγλικά

Μεταφορικά: Δωρεάν σε όλη την Ελλάδα

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Posted Sun Jan 22, 2012 6:16 pm

GeekList: January 2012 European Maths Trade

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Nick E. Papastergiou

(nepys)

Greece
Athens

Sealed in shrink.
English version, perfect condition.
Steve Jackson version, black box Deluxe edition (not the one pictured...)

Sweetener #1: Chart Wars
Sealed in shrink, Rare DipCo double edition with Space Waste game included.
English version, perfect condition.

Sweetener #2: A random chosen Cheap Ass envelope game, unplayed

Free postage in Europe

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Posted Sun Jan 8, 2012 7:33 pm

GeekList: What type of Gamer are you? (The Definitive Answer)

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Green Dan

(Greendan)

United Kingdom
Norwich
Norfolk

8 You are buying a new car, your first thought is:

a) I wonder what sort of fuel effeciency it has?

b) I need to weld some grills over the windows and attach a few guns.

c) I wish I could afford a Chieftain.

d) Better check underneath for car bombs.

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Posted Tue Jan 3, 2012 1:44 pm

(redsimon)

Germany

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b) I need to weld some grills over the windows and attach a few guns.

Hehe, yeah, that's what I am always searching for in a game. cool

"What, I only start with crappy infantry? Where are my giant tanks, walkers and gunships?"
or
"I want the big grenade launcher of death/sword of super-lightning, not just this crappy automatic pistol/knife!"

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Michael Hruza

(bigfriendlymike)

United States
Duluth
Minnesota

b)

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Paul Brillantes

(pmbrill77)

United States
Fort Drum
New York

B

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Anna Ziolkowska

(mrs_z)

Norway

Are you crazy? New car in Norway?! Do you even realized that it will cost me more than my brand, new, shiny apartment just to pay all taxes and insurance? No way!

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Michal Vit

(Shaddy)

Czech Republic
Zabcice

How many games will I fit in?

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GeekList: Joey's Top 50 Games of All Time (2011 Edition)

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

If Actions Speak Louder Than Words, Then Actions x2 Speak Louder Than Actions

(joebelanger)

United States
Hutto
Texas

One of the Original Twelve

Last Year's Rank: 22
Highest Rank: 8
Lowest Rank: 22

I could play this game everyday for the rest of my life and never get tired of it.

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Posted Tue Jan 3, 2012 3:31 am

GeekList: My school-days gaming days

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Chris Hartman

(AKQuaternion)

United States
Fairbanks
Alaska

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Posted Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:16 am

GeekList: The games I want to have and the ones that didn't really have a chance

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

General Norris

(General_Norris)

Spain

Wishlist 2: Love to Have

This one looks very interesting for a good reason: It plays fast, looks reasonably deep and should support team play without any problems while providing tons of replay value.

However and while it has a quite dedicated following I can't help but think that this might not be a "10" game but only a very good one or that I might really be looking for something lighter.

On the bright side, it's very cheap to get the rules and you can use matchbox cars IIRC.

How's the fifht edition btw?

UPDATE 5/01/2012: This is rising meteorically, and it really shouldn't a big surprise.

Sure, it might not be a 10 game but it fills a particular niche that no other game I know will. The theme is great, it's not as complicated as other wargames of it's kind and plays well with teams, free for all and scenarios while being quite interesting, many games seem to be either too complex to really get to the table or too simple to satiate the hardcore needs of my friends but this one doesn't.

So far I lean towards fifth edition. While I can see why the lack of vehicle design rules is a huge turn-off for many, it seems there's enough vehicle variety for a good while so it isn't a problem and gameplay wise I haven't been told of any big losses or even many small ones.

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Posted Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:24 am

Beer be with you.

(kjamma4)

United States
Northlake
Illinois

Last Ten Games I've Played: IGEL ARGERN, Glen More, PHASE 10 DICE, Phase 10, TANK CHARTS, Mexican Train, BLOKUS, TTR: Europe, RUMMY, Merchant of Venus

It CAN play fast but you really need to prepare ahead of time. Each player should have a copy of the movement chart and the handling and crash tables.

Pre-made cars should be a must for your first few games. After that, half the fun/battle is designing your own vehicles. I would recommend the spreadsheet by SPARK

http://www.cwspark.org/downloads/vehicles/

Since I have been playing Car Wars from the original zip loc version, my opinion of Fifth Edition (I don't like it) may be skewed. They are easy and cheap in the US - if you can get one for a decent price, give it a whirl.

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William Hostman

United States
Eagle River
Alaska

Gaming in Greater Anchorage area, Alaska since 1978. Looking for Indy-willing RPG players in Eagle River (or willing to drive to Eagle River). Geekmail me if interested.

Yes, this really is what I looked like when I uploaded that avatar. Not that it's quite current anymore.

General_Norris wrote:

Ey, sorry for not writting earlier!

kjamma4 wrote:

It CAN play fast but you really need to prepare ahead of time. Each player should have a copy of the movement chart and the handling and crash tables.

Noted. Those can be easily printed so it shouldn't be a problem.

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Since I have been playing Car Wars from the original zip loc version, my opinion of Fifth Edition (I don't like it) may be skewed. They are easy and cheap in the US - if you can get one for a decent price, give it a whirl.

Well, I'm not in the US but it's true they are pretty cheap. At 6$ per book it's a lot of bang for your buck!

No, not really. 2 cars, 3-4 variants without sheets, and a 3x scale turning key and 2-4 counters.

It really isn't that much bang for the buck, and the second is LESS bang for the buck, as the rules are 90% identical.

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That makes me wonder, how much would Car Wars Compedium cost?

US$14.99 for Revised 2E in PDF. http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=SJG30-7142

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aramis wrote:

I, too, don't much like 5th ed: it takes too much table space, lacks a design/modification system, and doesn't have a whole lot of variety. The little bit more simplicity was not worth the loss of design rules.

Other than the lack of building your own vehicles what do you think 5e did wrong so as not have much variety in comparison? You can get technical, don't worry

The lack of a design system, the lack of a consolidated rulebook (each duel book has some elements not in others - mostly weapon mechanics.

by not publishing the design rules, one is limited to the 25 to 30 published designs. And while there were 9 books with 2 each, and most have 2 variants, the variants are not significantly different.

Further, the published designs are all duelist vehicles in 5E. No decent highway haulers. No lorries, no big rigs. And there went 90% of my games...

The lack of a design system in print means one can't modify cars, either, save by GM fiat.

It lacks the character rules in any meaningful "not just a car component" way. Yes, it has almost as many skills as the pocket box... but lacking decent pedestrian rules means many scenarios are right out the window. And it loses the function as a Role-playing game, as well.

The collectible format, as well, made for needless increased expense. I hate buying the same rules 5 times...

Now, a good set of 1mm thick vinyl counters, I'd be thrilled...

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I also wonder, does 5e have scenarios? I know Car Wars Compedium does but not 5e.

Not really... it's pretty much just duels.

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Then, if you like MiniCW, pick up the PDF of the Car Wars Compendium. If you find a black-and-green copy of compendium, pick it up in dead tree; likewise, a "Deluxe Box" with the maps and counters is a good option, and should have a copy of compendium.

The Car Wars Compedium has two editions, guess it's the later one?

Actually, 3 editions, plus the original Deluxe Rulebook

White Deluxe Rulebook
Blue 1st edition Compendium
Blue 2nd edition compendium (labeled "second edition" in red on the front)
Black & green "2nd edition Compendium". It includes some errata, and is the edition available in PDF from e23.sjgames.com.

Keep in mind - if all you want is duels with premade stuff, CW5 is worth it. For those of us who saw CW as RPG, CW5 is a total waste of money.

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Beer be with you.

(kjamma4)

United States
Northlake
Illinois

Last Ten Games I've Played: IGEL ARGERN, Glen More, PHASE 10 DICE, Phase 10, TANK CHARTS, Mexican Train, BLOKUS, TTR: Europe, RUMMY, Merchant of Venus

aramis wrote:

Keep in mind - if all you want is duels with premade stuff, CW5 is worth it. For those of us who saw CW as RPG, CW 5.0 is a total waste of money.

Pretty much agree with what was said and IMHO, I don't like CW5 and I only play CW as a boardgame.

The other things I didn't like about CW 5.0 was the three phase turn. Your vehicle would move too far per phase making ram attacks that much easier. Additionally, the fact that you could only fire when you moved (unless fired upon) was too much of a change from the Compendium rules.

One thing I did like was that movement was "one inch per 10 mph of speed" rather than having to consult a movement chart. However, that only works because the vehicles were 3X the size of regular Car Wars and because there were only three phases per turn.

Seeing that a PDF of the Compendium is only $14.99, that would be my recommendation.

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William Hostman

United States
Eagle River
Alaska

Gaming in Greater Anchorage area, Alaska since 1978. Looking for Indy-willing RPG players in Eagle River (or willing to drive to Eagle River). Geekmail me if interested.

Yes, this really is what I looked like when I uploaded that avatar. Not that it's quite current anymore.

kjamma4 wrote:

One thing I did like was that movement was "one inch per 10 mph of speed" rather than having to consult a movement chart. However, that only works because the vehicles were 3X the size of regular Car Wars and because there were only three phases per turn.

That can be mimicked with a 4-phase turn, moving 1/4" per 10 mph per phase.

Per 10 MPH: 1/4" per each phase
+2.5MPH: +1/4" in phase 1
+5 mph: +1/4" in phases 1 & 3
+7.5 mph: +1/4 in phases 1, 2, & 3.

NOW it's easy enough to do it. Except that it means 40 MPH before a maneuver is easily done with a turning key.

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General Norris

(General_Norris)

Spain

Hi everyone! Those days I have been busy reading about the topic and trying the Mini Car Wars mini rules. They are great! Just adding the finesse to each of the mechanisms with scenarios would alredy make the game I want so I'm about to get Car Wars Compedium unless yoou think CW5 is better for that, which doesn't seem so.

Yes, this means a sizable part of the Compendium is kind of a hassle, I can't see myself using Helicopters or Boats anytime soon.

I have also discovered a Spanish edition of the compedium. Apparently when roleplaying games were starting to get released into Spain, Car Wars was one of them and, sure enough, the 2e Compedium was the version used for the translation. I'm very fortunate because unlike many other games picked up by the publisher this one was tretaed well and is not missing pictures or entire parts of the rulebook. The cover is the one with a car and a helicopter but I'm positive it's not the first edition of the compedium because of the release date (1991).

I can get the Spanish Compendium alone or I can pay 10 more Euro to also get two expansions in very good condition (L'Outrange and Muskogee Mayhem). Are they worth it or should I stick to the compedium and check them if I'm still interested?

I'm also interested in pimping the game out of the box and making it both more appealing and more playable. so I'm going to need a lot of help here. Besides the obvious, it's also a way to dodge the Imperial system you crazy Americans like to use. Everything is in Inches so I can just use Inch (or half-inch) as a scale unit and work from there.

I'm thinking about upscaling the game to Micromachine scale which, according to most sources, is 1.5X. Matchbox scale looks cool but I noticed how much space it would take for most scenarios and decided against it so I will stick to Micromachines.

Something I see a lot of people doing is using both a Turning Key and a grid. Why is that so? I can see it being useful, it would make all distances even but is it worth it compared to just using the key? I'm not opposed to redrawing maps, it doesn't look particularly difficult to do so usability is the main factor.

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Keep in mind - if all you want is duels with premade stuff, CW5 is worth it. For those of us who saw CW as RPG, CW5 is a total waste of money.

I can very much see how losing the campaing/RPG rules is a huge letdown, they seem to be a lot of fun if you have a group for it. That said, I don't think we would ever play campaigns, my group simply shouldn't be allowed play a RPG. Ever. Just trying to remember it makes me nervous*

That said, I think that just duels would quickly get stale, I'm looking for close-ended scenarios to add variety to the game. Things like protecting a truck or the stuff included in Midville look quite up my alley even if I don't particularly care for big rigs or guys on foot.

I just want something more interesting that just shooting to each other.

Thanks a lot for the help!

*How to deal with a guard? Eat him so there's no body!

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GeekList: Games with GIANT versions

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Andrew Walters

(andreww)

United States
Hercules
California

Cars Wars has been writ large at conventions many times. Here's a photo of a recent event in New Jersey.

For more see the [geekurl= http://www.sjgames.com/ill/a/2011-12-04]Daily Illuminator[/geekurl] on the topic.

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Posted Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:11 am

GeekList: Games with Variable Army/Character Selection

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Enrico Viglino

United States
Phoenix, AZ
Arizona

Completely customization of cars.

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Posted Fri Dec 9, 2011 5:12 am

William Hostman

United States
Eagle River
Alaska

Gaming in Greater Anchorage area, Alaska since 1978. Looking for Indy-willing RPG players in Eagle River (or willing to drive to Eagle River). Geekmail me if interested.

Yes, this really is what I looked like when I uploaded that avatar. Not that it's quite current anymore.

calandale wrote:

Completely customization of cars.

Not always - many people use stock vehicles (and no edition comes with LESS than a dozen except 5th - which has no customization to speak of, and no official design system.)

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Chris Nason

(Zimzerveran)

United States

Maine

I wish SJ Games would do a new edition of Car Wars. I don't need the ridiculous number-crunching customization of the older editions, but I do want some customization and not just stock vehicles. The potential for streamlining this game is there.

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Enrico Viglino

United States
Phoenix, AZ
Arizona

wow. Can't imagine Car Wars WITHOUT building your own cars -
that was the whole point (as with Starfire below).

Guess gamers have changed.

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Antti Hoo.

(Noburo)

Finland
Helsinki

Zimzerveran wrote:

The potential for streamlining this game is there.

Now, that would be something. I have fond memories of CW from the late 80s, but relearning the old rules would be a chore.

A friend of mine keeps suggesting we try this 'for old times' sake', but that's probably because he never lost a battle against anyone – not even when the rest of us ganged up on him. We all agree that designing cars was a major part of the fun, but while most of us just picked parts that seemed cool, he did the math, came up with some unbeatable combos and proceeded to turn our cars into debris counters. (It had something to do with rockets and targeting lasers... I hate those!)

But boy, was it fun... finding out that someone had actually tried to put together a 5K compact armed with a ram plate... realizing that your latest, greatest design (with the best name ever!) was just shot to bits after less than five seconds on the road... ah, the memories...

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Enrico Viglino

United States
Phoenix, AZ
Arizona

The rules for play weren't too complex - they were just
illogical in too many places.

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GeekList: What is your #1 boardgame of all time? - 23/11/2011

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Fabio Calzolari

(parduz)

Italy
S.Lazzaro di Savena
Bologna

This is my most beloved game.
I've fond memories, and a lot of anectodes about street combats.
The ability to "tell" a story, to transform a mechanic in somewhat epic, the "pre-game" game struggling to build the best car with the given funds (way before Magic and his deck building)...there's only another game that i played the same amount and returned the same fun, which is Space Crusade. But Car Wars beat it 'cause the car building process.

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Posted Sat Nov 26, 2011 1:25 am

Samuel Wolf

(MistWolf)

Australia
Adelaide
South Australia

A much deserved entry. I feel the same way about Battletech, so much of the game was working out the best payload and combination of mechs with the given weight/credit/unit limits. Ahhhh, good times

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Fabio Calzolari

(parduz)

Italy
S.Lazzaro di Savena
Bologna

Battletech is third in my list just 'cause it is basically a 2 players game (i have the luck to have a large group of playing friends), and with the two i previously mentioned it is the last of the games that i'll never sell, even if i don't play them in years.

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GeekList: Games in which you configure your playing piece at first

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Kai Bettzieche

(schattentanz)

Germany
Ladenburg

Not only do you configure your car, you also configure your driver in advance, before throwing both of them into battle.

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Posted Mon Nov 14, 2011 2:11 pm

Weintraub J

(Warbanner)

United States
Commack
New York

First game I thought of. Designing your car is half the fun. Hence the suck that is version 5.

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GeekList: Games that make you spend too much $$$ for additional stuff

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

steven slater

England

County of Essex

On the subject of floging a dead horse (and SJG come to that) this monster. Again a good game, but do I really need the Inthemiddleofnowhereville one car arena?

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Edited Sun Oct 30, 2011 7:09 pm
Posted Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:40 pm

Douglas Glisson

(krakenfan69)

Canada

Alberta

www.scottsigler.com/gfl

I'm gonna keep signing my posts so just let it go already.

I must have bought over $100 in Hotwheels and Matchbox cars to make them into deadly dueling machines. I think 2 or 3 of them are 60% done. I get distrac...ohh shiney! shake

Kraken Fan #69

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Freelance Police

(Sam and Max)

United States
Palo Alto
California

dprijadi wrote:

you put machine guns and flamethrowers on your HOTWHEELS ?????

Now, I feel awkward that I don't. laugh

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Douglas Glisson

(krakenfan69)

Canada

Alberta

www.scottsigler.com/gfl

I'm gonna keep signing my posts so just let it go already.

dprijadi wrote:

krakenfan69 wrote:

I must have bought over $100 in Hotwheels and Matchbox cars to make them into deadly dueling machines.

you put machine guns and flamethrowers on your HOTWHEELS ?????

Um, yeah, doesn't everyone?

Kraken Fan #69

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denny prijadi

(dprijadi)

Indonesia
jakarta
JAKARTA BARAT DKI

not everyone, some use those spike dropper and oil sprayer for nasty suprise

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Douglas Glisson

(krakenfan69)

Canada

Alberta

www.scottsigler.com/gfl

I'm gonna keep signing my posts so just let it go already.

I still like to reach out and touch someome though. devil

Kraken Fan #69

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GeekList: Games for Geekgold October 2011 - My Own Symphony

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Matt Nuttleman

(Atotalnutt)

United States
Lincoln
Nebraska

ITEM CLOSED!!

On October 29th of 2011 Sol's mighty CAT spoke, and using its powers of random generations it chose an winner. To check its bidding, click here. Below you can find the winner's name. Congratulations!

There were a total of 1 for this item:

Car Wars
With a total of 300.0 geekgold tipped, which gave him a 53.87% chance of victory, we salute:

Mathieu Perreault-Dorion

(Oeternalis)

Canada
Montreal
Québec

Here now for your Geekgold tipping consideration is a used copy of the Car Wars Deluxe Edition. This game is in great shape for its age, but I really don't see my wife and I taking the time to learn it (and I'd rather use her tolerance for combat-related games on other titles.)

This was a garage sale find. The box lid is somewhat smooshed, but none of the corners are blown out. All of the contents listed on the back of the box are there - rules, maps (both the truck stop and extra-large town), etc. I inventoried the counters and by my count at least 295 of the 300 advertised on the box are present. If you have any specific questions about counters or any other components please let me know!

Shipping: Free in the USA, and I'll pay the first $20 internationally.
If this item reaches 250 I'll pay the first $15 internationally. - ACHIEVED!
If this item reaches 400 I'll pay the first $20 internationally. - ACHIEVED!
If this item reaches 600 I'll pay the first $25 internationally.

Item will be drawn on October 29, using Sol's Copycat Awesome Tool.

Entries:

1 = 1 entry
10 = 12 entries
25 = 35 entries

Edited on 10/26 with shipping updates.

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Posted Thu Oct 6, 2011 7:16 pm

Matt Nuttleman

(Atotalnutt)

United States
Lincoln
Nebraska

Notification/reminder - this item closes in less than 24 hours. Good luck!

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GeekList: Only 2 years on but a lot has changed.

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Gabriel Mann

(gabrielward)

United Kingdom
Wigan
Lancashire

Favourite Game of all time:
That's right... I LOVE CAR WARS! That's probably an understatement ever since I picked up a copy of the deluxe box set I have been reading the rules and playing it non-stop! Unfortunately I don't own any expansions but I still enjoy the game greatly.

Honorable Mention:
Do your self a favour and check out this site ( http://www.seanet.com/~owenmp/swathome.html) if you are even slightly interested in auto duelling. The guy who owns it is great and his site is very informative.

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Posted Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:48 pm

GeekList: UNDIGNIFIED WAYS TO GO: Games with Horrible Fates for Some Players

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Michael Hovan

(mlhovan)

United States
Elkhart
Indiana

Pick your edition of this masterpiece. Pedestrians are charbroiled, skewered, riddled with bullets, and run over. The cars get mangled too.

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Posted Tue Sep 20, 2011 9:37 pm

Ron Glass

(ronglass)

United States
Tampa
Florida

Yep, lots of fun. Won in a Tournament where the final 2 (me and the now dearly departed) dueled around the city-scape arena for about a half-hour. He finally had to abandon his car and run for a sanctuary and I was going too fast to make the turn to run him down. Went the other way instead, cut loose with the oil slick as I made the turn, and as he was in the arc of the spray totally soaking him in oil, then popped a flare, made the GMs roll to see if it ignited the oil, and watched him become a...non-viable life-form.

One of the best
Ron

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GeekList: The Top Classics of Ameritrash (and how they continue to survive)

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

Sean Franco

(logopolys)

United States
Hammond
Louisiana

Car Wars

1981 (Steve Jackson): 6.24 x 1363 = 8505.12
Compendium, 1989 (Steve Jackson): 7.0 x 190 = 1330
Fifth Edition, 2002 (Steve Jackson): 6.18 x 185 = 1143.3

Massive: 10978.42
Average: 6.317

Latest English: 2002

In the future, players choose vehicles with not just custom engines, suspensions, and other car parts, but also weapons and armor. The winners come back with more abilities and money to buy upgrades. It is a little expensive but fairly easy to find a working copy of Car Wars.

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Posted Tue Sep 20, 2011 7:36 am

Sean Westberg

(TheFlatline)

United States
Ventura
California

In the early 2000's I picked up the deluxe edition of this that had pretty much the entire run. Only played it a handful of times but it was an absolute blast. Probably straddles the boarder between AT and wargame though.

Favorite Car Wars stories:

* One summer my friend decided to play car wars with his friends. They brought all their spare military model kits together and bashed out model cars reflecting the car they would drive in the game. They then scaled the game up to play on a garage floor, and modeled the damage suffered with soldering irons and stuff.

* Friend shows up for Car Wars with the military handbook. Normally the group would spend 150,000 on a car (which is quite a bit) and take an hour to kit out rolling death machines. Friend finishes his car in 5 minutes. Game starts, and my other friend is rolling in a compact car kitted out with all kinds of weapons, and is redlining the thing through the city streets. Here comes the first friend, bouncing down the street in his unmarked van, complete with armored beer cooler, 8-track player, and PA system so he can bump to Low Rider. He's doing about... 15mph, the compact is doing like... 70. They pull onto the same street and face off.

The van's driver says "Hidden weapon compartment."

Compact driver says "Okay what pops out?"

Van driver: "The entire back half of the van pops off. It's a cruise missile."

Compact driver: "A WHAT??? How much damage does that do?"

Van: "Um... *looks* 15 dice" (For reference a machine gun does like 2d6)

Compact: "Oh sh*t oh sh*t oh sh*t"

At which point the compact driver exits stage right into an alley, making a 90 degree turn at 60mph into an alleyway that's about 5 feet wider than his car, hoping to god to make it out of the alley before the van caught up.

Best. Turn. Ever.

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Ben Delp

(delp1871)

United States
Franklin
Tennessee

TheFlatline wrote:

Probably straddles the boarder between AT and wargame though.

Agreed. If someone wanted to call it a wargame, I wouldn't fight them on it.

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GeekList: Why are not everyone playing more older games

Board Game: Car Wars [Average Rating:6.25 Overall Rank:1429]

steven slater

England

County of Essex

SJG? how about cars wars then (the old one not the new crapier version).

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Posted Sun Sep 18, 2011 3:27 pm

Tim

(tofarley)

United States
San Antonio
Texas

Car Wars was another favorite of mine back in the day. I had a huge collection of stuff for it... but unlike many of the other games on this list, it didn't hold up quite as well for me. While I'd still be interested in playing a game of Ogre right now, I'm not so sure I could say the same of Car Wars. I wound up selling everything off in a lot on eBay for way less than it was probably worth.

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Ian Engleback

(ian54)

England
Croydon
London

I found the ziplock edition in a bargain bin in some Games Store back in the early 1980s, great game, I loved the "Uncle Albert Catalog" expansions.

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Tim

(tofarley)

United States
San Antonio
Texas

Hatonastick wrote:

This and Battletech were two of my favourites back in the 80's, probably because you could design your own vehicles. Wish I still had them.

Classic Battletech is still in print. My FLGS gets new stuff all the time.

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Pat Wilz

(pwilz)

United States
Bay St. Louis
MS

You cannot stop me from doing the Lambada just by calling it, "The Forbidden Dance."

And furthermore, I think tipping answers in GeekQuestions should be fixed.

I enjoyed this game. I'm still a bit of a sucker for any, 'Cars with guns' game. The problem I had with this back in the day was that it was that you could goof designing your car and give yourself an unfair advantage.

Now with spreadsheets and calculators, things are great. I keep meaning to break this out again and play it.

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