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Board Game: Chicago Express [Average Rating:7.33 Overall Rank:156]
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55 Magic: The Gathering x 64 Chicago Express

Preliminary Rd 1: d. Yomi - 85 x 36

Comment: Chicago Express steam rolled over poor Yomi, the weakest of the contenders in Pre-Rd 1. Now it has a tougher opponent, can it win again?
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I voted for CE. Still, this would be a huge upset in my mind.

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64 Chicago Express x 85 Yomi

Comment: Another train game! Can this came ahead of the others? But first it needs to fight Yomi.
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Princes of the Renaissance
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Amun-Re
Clippers
TurfMaster
Uptown
Get Bit! x 3
The Resistance
Manila
Texas & Pacific

Taught Web of Power to two new players on two separate occasions, and lost to them both times. Very displeasing, as I fancy myself a strong WoP player.

Met a couple who are friends of friends, and though they are somewhat familiar with boardgaming, the types of games I favor are foreign to them. I thought Tower of Babel might be a nice introduction. The guy part of the couple, in his words, is "a Dominion junkie" and "loves anything medieval and anything by Fantasy Flight". The gal part prefers "fun stuff without calculations". The guy never really caught on to the abstract nature of Tower of Babel scoring. The gal went on to beat us all.

Oregon online against Mikko and Anna, both of them managing to beat me. My reign in jeopardy!

Playing Puerto Rico got my euro juices flowing, and I had a craving to try the Cuba: El Presidente expansion. Plain vanilla Cuba fell kind of flat for me back when we first played it. This expansion certainly adds some other considerations, but the most important is the simplest: Increased game length by two turns. That alone might make it more interesting. We'll see.

A game of Arkadia at yucata with Mikko, and though both of us did some stupid moves, mine must have been less egregious, since I did end up snagging it at the end. Arkadia seems to be pretty good with two.

Gamestorm madness! And for the first couple days of the con, I was on fucking fire, astounding Claudio, Anna, and all other challengers with rampaging victories in 5p Chicago Express, 5p AoS Ireland, 4p Kogge, Kardinal & König - Das Duell, 5p AoS China, and 4p Brass. One of my typical patterns when playing, I've been told, is "whine, whine, whine, win". Well apparently the greater red flag is absence of whining, cause that means I am seriously crushing.

Some of the highlights in these games include:
--Outbidding chief threat Anna for a Locomotive action I really didn't need, essentially destroying her game and driving her to near bankruptcy.
--Raiding a city in Kogge and going on to do a double DP move my next two turns, abruptly ending the game.
--Counting up points in Brass with the dramatic climax of my winning by one point. Can't get that online.

Fortunately, I started losing from here on out, keeping my ego in check.

Though Princes of the Renaissance lasted far longer than normal -- about 5 hours with 5 very chatty negotiators -- it was still very much worth it. One of our most entertaining moments came when three of us colluded to combine Influence currency to secure the attacker and defender roles in a war, only to realize afterward that amidst the discussions, we had inadvertently swapped the roles for our intended actors, giving a result the exact opposite of what we intended. Ha. Damn. The big warmonger in our game came out on top, with me a decent 2nd.

Drunken, late night Godzilla variant Manhattan is starting to become a con tradition with me and the Portland boys. One thing I learned in this session is that I don't really like malty beer. I assumed "malty" meant "toasty, nutty", but it actually means "sweet". I don't like sweet. Still searching for my beer of choice. Here's what I favor, if any of you can help:

Toasty, nutty, roasted flavor.
Low fizz. Even almost no fizz.
Low on the sweet scale.
Not too cold. Even closer to room temp is fine.

Still loving Kingdom Builder, especially when played seriously with three.

Amun-Re with some newcomers, one of which ran out of money early in the first half. Come intermediate scoring, I deflected attention away from me, saying that he (as if!) was actually the one winning. Turns out he was. And he did. I guess the joke was on me.

I have to depend on the kindness of out of town strangers to get in a 5p game of Clippers. Yes, Claudio would have gladly joined in, but he was busy with Indonesia. Clippers is so good. Why does no one locally share my enthusiasm?

TurfMaster is hailed as perhaps the best racing game, bar none. Now that I've finally got a chance to play it, I'm inclined to agree. Granted, when you're trailing behind with no chance, it's a drag. But when you're up front with the leader horses, this game is pure racing tension with the added bonus of very minimal chance effects. Lorna, you have a copy. Let's play!

Tried Uptown with the recommended designer scoring variant. Seems an improvement.

Bottle of wine at our side, we played a few boisterous games of Get Bit!. The best one being when Claudio sat down for our third game, and we decided to not even explain the rules, just tossed him in the deep end and made him figure it out. It was still fun! In fact, even funner! My gag in this game was spreading out my little guy's arms and legs while everyone else had limbs nibbled away by the shark, declaring in whitey gangster voice, "I'm a splaya!"



Anna hates The Resistance. Or maybe she just hates being a spy in The Resistance. Because less than 10 seconds after we all opened our eyes at the beginning and before anyone had said a single word, I (one of the good guys) scanned the table of faces, and immediately correctly detected two of the three spies -- one of which being Anna -- at our table of seven. Anna told me after our Resistance win that she was flabbergasted at my ability to read players.

Claudio has convinced me that yes, there is enjoyment to be had with Manila, a game I rejected after a single play some time back. This one might be about who you play with...

Cruel, nasty 5p session of Texas & Pacific that left one of our players, a chaplain who had just acquired the game, disillusioned at just how unpleasantly cruel and nasty it can be. I consoled him with the suggestion that perhaps the 3p game might actually see trains Go West, especially if the three include more...kind and constructive types. Anna won this holding only two shares. She did manipulate the chaplain, though.
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My defense against his whinemaking is merciless preemptive teasing, as occasionally his whining would begin even prior to the game starting, and then it was just too obviously brilliant metagame strategy.
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John is annoyingly good at convincing people its in their best interests not to bother him.
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Toasty, nutty, roasted flavor.
Low fizz. Even almost no fizz.
Low on the sweet scale.
Not too cold. Even closer to room temp is fine.

cask conditioned pale ale
you could also ask for porter, for the roasted flavor, or mix half and half: a black and tan.


A schwartzbier could be your style. Or a nut brown ale. Fuller's 1845 could be worth a look also.

If you really want to brute force it, go to a specialty beer store (I'm positive they exist in Eugene) and buy one of every darker British beer they have. British beers tend to have the character you are looking for without having tons of malts to drown it out in sweet (as Belgians or many American microbrews do).
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Cruel, nasty 5p session of Texas & Pacific that left one of our players, a chaplain who had just acquired the game, disillusioned at just how unpleasantly cruel and nasty it can be. I consoled him with the suggestion that perhaps the 3p game might actually see trains Go West, especially if the three include more...kind and constructive types. Anna won this holding only two shares. She did manipulate the chaplain, though.


Shame on you! Picking on a poor chaplain. Tsk! Tsk!

I notice you didn't mention it was the chaplain who kicked your butt in Amun-Re!
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Me? Anna was the manipulative bitch!

Very impressive win in Amun-Re though, Chaplain.
 
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My plays, with details here.

Web of Power
Chicago Express
Age of Steam Expansion #1: England & Ireland
Kogge
Kardinal & König - Das Duell
Age of Steam Expansion: Mexico & China
Brass
Princes of the Renaissance
Manhattan
Kingdom Builder x 2
Amun-Re
Clippers
TurfMaster
Uptown
Get Bit! x 3
The Resistance
Manila
Texas & Pacific

Our third year at GS, and our most fun one yet.
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I only did 2 days this year, and didn't sign up for anything in advance, but would have loved to get some Age of Steam, Brass, or Winsome in.

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I think this was the coolest game I've played and the one most outside my comfort zone. When I saw Alastair rifling through this box I bounded over about three tables to get in on it. Then he tried to explain it to me by comparing it to other train games I have never seen. And then Jason wondered over and offered to teach us, paragon of infinite patience he is. The explanation sent me into a stupor reminiscent of my attempts at schooling. Kylie jumped in before the start and once underway it all clicked instantly.

Well, the mechanics did. Despite the best attempts of our tutor the tips for playing competitively were ignored in favour of aggressive refinancing. I was amply warned about the end game scenarios but got a little share price crazy "Oh no! It's the last share in My majority owned railroad! I better put my entire savings into it for future development!"

And the game ended soon after that. Absolutely stunned with this one, I can see how the game could play out in many different ways as people get better. The play flow was so simple and yet so enthralling. I never felt like I was waiting for anyone to go. And the only non-deterministic thing about it was the inner workings of your opponent's minds. I want to play this again!
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Stop laughing. I'm actually taking this to a family game night tonight. We played it a couple of weeks ago and went over extremely well. There are three possible actions that couldn't be more straight forward.

Yes people may stress about valuing the shares. But, don't let them stress about it. Auctions should be fun. You don't have to win your first time out of the gate. Wait for the second game.
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Despite how easy it may be to learn the rules, this doesn't even come close to being a good fit for your list.
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manchuwok wrote:
A group who could easily pick up Ticket to Ride and Carcassonne could probably learn how to play this. They might even have a lot of fun. They would also have no idea what was going on.


Enjoying something and being good at it/"knowing what is going on" are not mutually exclusive.


Absolutely right. In fact, I think they come together more often than not. Which is why Chicago Express is perhaps not a great gateway game.
 
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What's the different between knowing EXACTLY what is going on, as opposed to just having SOME idea what's going on.

The way I play games I almost purposely have no idea what's going on the first time I play it. I also like to play games more than once or twice and enjoy learning the ins and outs over a couple of plays. But, I at least have "some" idea what's going on after the first game.

A good game should slowly unravel its strategies to you over multiple plays. Obviously this depends much on your left brain vs right brain predominance.

I choose to shut off my left brain for as long as possible. Otherwise, I would probably starting hating board games and rather go play music or paint.
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A good game should slowly unravel its strategies to you over multiple plays.


Totally agree. A game is not worth playing many times if it can be unravelled immediately.
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As promised: On gateways, trains and discernability
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Mixed feelings here, we really enjoyed it but we had no idea what we were doing. It works in a way that doesn't match our experience, we had a hard time just stopping to think what it meant to auction a share, who already had one, what happened if I won a 2nd, or if she won the other one, what the dividends would be, what its worth. Of course we also developed loads since we at some point ended up with shares in a company the other one didnt, and apart from track building we thought pushing up value in shares only we had was good. Seems that the expert players NEVER develop haha, and do something called "null auction", which I think means auction action but dont actually auction anything. I havent even begun to get my head round this yet. I really need to sit down and think about it, so I would be happy if anyone wants to shed some basic light on this game without spoiling the strategy. It was nice to play with 2, even though it obviously needs more, its quick, which Petra liked, and its nice to see the trains spread out across the map. We never made it over to Chicago. I played a bit meaner in terms of blocking the routes she was invested in but of course she won.

I am really interested in Paris Connection which I also have but isnt meant for 2, I think I am really falling for these winsome style quick games, I just hope I can get my head round how they work properly to get the most out of them, as I see there's a lot more cleverness going on than I am utilising, and it would be nice to get somewhat competent and play with equally competent opponents to really let the systems shine

A note about graphics though, and again, I have to slightly backtrack here,I think I might agree with ... clearclaw?... I really prefer the minimalist clean look of the Winsome maps, and in fact, I intend to print out my own copies of these maps, colour shaded to my own design and play with wooden cubes or discs and not trains. I think there's something really beautiful about them

I also have a huge amount of admiration for the homemade works of people like Cary (garygarison) and Peter (photocurio)
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are you someone who prefers this kind of clean and simple look, or the more lush and busy designs such as Michael Menzel? do you think its game dependent or do you have a strong preference for one or the other? What game do you love despite its graphical design, and what game do you love the look of, even though you dont much care for the game?

I understand that Winsome is a special company and more or less a 1 man job, but I am still not sure I understand the rationale behind artificially limiting the availability of these games. Why not charge a reasonable amount for a PNP hex map, the printable file must exist, its a trivial matter to make this available electronically and trivial for people to use poker chips and wooden cubes for the other bits.

Aside from "that's how they choose to do it", is there any other reason why this is so, is it not... a bit odd, from both a financial point of view, and just from the point of view of spreading the joy of these games to many more people. Is it the hardcore followers of the Winsome sets that want these to be closed group releases? I am having a hard time understanding the motivation for this when it seems such a simple thing to make available to the profit of both the company and the buyers.

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I definitely prefer the lush designs of Michael Menzel. Of course, the graphics should never obscure important information, or in any other way make the game hard to play. Beautiful, but also functional, is what I like.

The board of Chaos in the Old World is a bit over-worked in my mind. It works, but could be easier to interpret. The game is good though.

Claustrophobia looks great, but the game play was a bit too shallow for me. I much prefer Descent, even though it plays much longer.

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2p CE/WC doesn't really work. Texas & Pacific is a bit better for that. Gulf, Mobile & Ohio is even more better. Two-handed German Railways can be a kick if you have just two players.
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Thanks, I wish I'd known that about GR, that one specifically lists 3-5 while CE at least lists 2, and I saw a couple of reviews that said it was actually excellent with 2. I tend to agree with you based on my own experience, notwithstanding your far greater experience of the genre!

I still have a PnP version of T&P to try actually whistle I will see how that goes before hunting down a G,M and O.

Was actually surprised at how recent some of these Winsomes are, I thought they were blasts from the past, but it seems some of them are only a few years old in original form!
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Well, the 2P is more by necessity, well, ok, I have a choice, but we're quite happy the 2 of us for the most part.

Yeah, I get that, but if Sarah played as much as it seems Petra does, I'd probably concentrate more on games specificially designed for 2p.

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Have you played any of them with 2 and found them really lacking?

I've played 2p T&E on BGG a few times and it was OK, but that was with the smaller map which forces conflict.

LoV only with 4, and one of my favourite things about it is that a 3rd player could worm one dice into a big casino being contested by two others and still stand a chance of taking it over 'by accident'.

CE I think just doesn't work with 2. The whole point of the game is temporary alliances and getting other players to do your work for you. That just can't happen with 2 because it becomes zero-sum.

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how do you compare CE to Paris Connection and German Railways etc.

I haven't got any others, but I bought PC recently, having played SNCF a while back, and I like it. It's *so* minimal in the rules, but still interesting and quite opaque. I just wish it didn't take so long to set up compared to the very quick play time.
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As far as I can see Winsome Games is something like Alan R. Moon's White Wind was in the beginning of the 90s when he got fed up with large publishers sitting on his prototypes for years and he published 300-copy releases of board games, hoping big publishers would buy the rights for these games (as it happened later, even though WW went broke by then).
Still I'd hope for a bit better-looking games. These look like games in the '60s or more like prototypes and nothing else. I'm not a Menzel fan (nor a hater) and I do think Chicago Express has visibility problems but I still prefer that one over Wabash Cannonball's cheap look.
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Don't think I've been to a Rosliston and not played this.

A lot of game in just 1 hour.

Would quite like to give the expansion a go this time round
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Sounds like me and Andy are going to be playing a few train games...
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Count me in. Chicago Express is a fine game.
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Smashing. How many hours are there in a Saturday...?
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Smashing. How many hours are there in a Saturday...?


24 so I've told Dave F and Steve H.
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That'll be 24 I won't be playing this game in.
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Still leaves you 2 1/2 days in which you CAN play it...
 
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James and I have played this twice. We wanted to try it with more people. It's a "train game" ... but it's really more of an economic game. The whole point is to try and make money buy developing trains like in the "robber baron" days. So you don't play as a train company, but rather a financier who owns a stake in any of the 4 companies in the game and can play with any one he/she owns.
 
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I've heard this/Wabash typically plays in about 45 minutes, and that it's a fairly meaty train game, especially given the playing time. I almost bought it, and then the guy at the store, a hardcore 18xxer, said that once you've played it once, there's no need to pay it again, as every game plays exactly the same as the last. I'm probably still going to hunker down and get it eventually, when/if I find myself more fiscally solvent.
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This has tremendous replay value. That clerk unfortunately doesn't know what he is talking about.
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After I'd played this game once I felt the need to play it many, many more times.
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Well if he played it once, then I am sure that every game he played played out exactly the same way.
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When I first played this one, the first thing I thought I needed to do was play it again immediately. And it was nothing like the first time. And I know that clearclaw's group is so far beyond what our group is doing that they sometimes don't even get to Chicago...wow

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Jythier wrote:
When I first played this one, the first thing I thought I needed to do was play it again immediately. And it was nothing like the first time. And I know that clearclaw's group is so far beyond what our group is doing that they sometimes don't even get to Chicago...wow



Really, it's reading session reports and the like from clearclaw and others that got me interested in train games in the first place. It's just a matter of finding train gamers somewhere in Metro Detroit.
 
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Andrew and Scott tend to break out a lot of train games, and this night was no different. I know this was Ethan's first time to play this game, and I do not know about Dan. It looks like Andrew dominated.

Andrew 87
Scott 55
Dan 52
Ethan 38
 
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Aussi inclus l'extension http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgameexpansion/47400/chicag...
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Great gateway in its own genre.
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I traded Le Havre for this and never played it. Old owner played it a few times. There is some light wear on the rules and box.

Sweetened with Chicago Express: Narrow Gauge & Erie Railroad Company. The expansion has been removed from whatever packaging it came in originally and it now resides in the main game box.
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Can teach in 5 minutes. Deeper than every game put on this list so far.
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Deeper than Go? Wow! zombie
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Deeper than Go? Wow! zombie


Haha yea. To call his statement hyperbolic would be a gross understatement.
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Yep. Old and terrible abstracts don't impress me. Memorizing books of strategy against other people's memorization of books of strategy.
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Yep. Old and terrible abstracts don't impress me. Memorizing books of strategy against other people's memorization of books of strategy.


...what impresses you and which is strategically deeper are two different arguments.
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Konnyu szabalyok, de annal nehezebb jol jatszani! Talan a legnehezebb a listan.
 
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