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I love that this picture shows a really cute girl playing a board game with her geeky male buddies (hey I am geeky and fat, so that gives me a right to call these kids geeky - kinda) but hasn't been marked as mature. Wonderful!

My next plus is the guy in the background who looks bored out of his freaking mind, while his friends drool over the game they are getting to playing with the aforementioned cute girl.

My One Minus - I don't care how cute you are, keep your freaking sprite and pizza AWAY from the game!!! Oy, NO! (I am one of the Self-Righteous Brothers).

Really cool picture.
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CharmlessMan77 wrote:
I love that this picture shows a really cute girl playing a board game with her geeky male buddies (hey I am geeky and fat, so that gives me a right to call these kids geeky - kinda) but hasn't been marked as mature. Wonderful!

My next plus is the guy in the background who looks bored out of his freaking mind, while his friends drool over the game they are getting to playing with the aforementioned cute girl.

My One Minus - I don't care how cute you are, keep your freaking sprite and pizza AWAY from the game!!! Oy, NO! (I am one of the Self-Righteous Brothers).

Really cool picture.


We had just come back from a dance and decided to chill down with El Grande, which is she's all dolled up. Her boyfriend to her right is one of the most sought after guys on the dance floor. My roommate from Ohio is in the background, addicted to watching the Cavaliers lose basketball games. The guy to her left is the only non-dancer there: he's a member of the town's popular improvisational comedy troupe.
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You "just got back from a dance" and it's daylight outside?! How the hell does everyone look so 'alive' after an all nighter at a club?!?

Now I can only think of 3 possible scenarios that make sense here:
1) The drinks were REALLY expensive so everyone came home stone cold sober.
2) The drugs were REALLY cheap so everyone is still buzzing like happy little things.
3) It was a DAYTIME dance where no-one was under the influence and people hop, skip, and leap merrily until 4 in the afternoon when they go home for soft drinks and snacks (no thats tooo horrible to consider!!!)
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Oh, sorry I didn't clarify. It was a Saturday afternoon swing dance lesson that was called off early, so we came home. You don't drink to go swing dancing -- a few of the girls are high school and can't drink anyway, drunk guys get stupid and hurt people trying aerials, and quite frankly it's all way too much fun to miss by being bombed.

Of course, we also do blues dancing, and that's a totally different dirty late night sorta thing. Probably wouldn't be playing games after that weren't anatomically inspired.
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My roommate from Ohio, Joel, is in the background, addicted to watching the Cavaliers lose basketball games.


Ah! A Cavs fan... that explains why he doesn't look happy.
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Wow.... and I thought my wife and I were the only gamers who enjoy swing dance (or is that swing dancers who enjoy games? Actually, based on dance ability, it's the former!). Admittedly its a bit rarer in the UK

There ought to be a microbadge!!
 
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Since this addresses larger issues, I posted it on another BGG forum as well.

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Wow.... and I thought my wife and I were the only gamers who enjoy swing dance (or is that swing dancers who enjoy games? Actually, based on dance ability, it's the former!). Admittedly its a bit rarer in the UK


I'd have to say about half the folks I have over for game parties are those I know from swing dancing. In the realm of social activities between the genders, I find a great deal of similarity between the function of swing or social dancing (active) and game nights (sedentary) when compared to their prevalent alternatives: hip hop or club dancing (active) and movies, dinners or bars (sedentary).

1. Non-meat market atmosphere
Both of these focus on an ACTIVITY. I find club dancing to be sexually competitive, while social dancing is a much more a cooperative venture. Game nights, obviously, are a much less sexual way to interact with the opposite gender than going to a bar.

2. Emphasis on interaction and personality
I find that swing dancing is a social rather than a sexual interaction, while club dancing emphasizes dancing with an "object" - you're dancing with a bunch of body parts rather than a person. Watching movies emphasizes staring at a screen rather than interacting with the people you showed up with.

3. Non-commercial emphasis
I'm not saying that commerce plays no role in social dance or games, but the main reason you're getting together is not to spend money, as it often feels like when you go out to dinner, play poker, go to a movie, go to a bar or go to a club. Certainly the guy who owns all the games has forked out quite a bit, but selling the game rarely seems to be the focus when you get together to play. Similarly, the only drinks you're encouraged to go for in swing dance is water: it's outright dangerous to buy alcohol in a swing dance.

Please pardon me as I go into rant mode, but I think both of these activities performed a vital role in gender relations that has been missing since the 70's. The whole culture of couples getting together for "bridge night" has disintegrated. Many of the 19th century public buildings I've seen have an entire floor devoted to a ballroom which is no longer in use. Neither of these activities are prevalent anymore, which blocks access to the opposite gender for those who do not have an exhibitionist approach to their sexuality.

This isolation, in my opinion, creates a level of repression amongst those who are not sexually extroverted, a repression that I think can get expressed in stalking and other deviant behavior. I have some anecdotal evidence: several guys in swing dance who used to give girls "creepy vibes" but, after a few years of swing, contra, or other forms of dance, no longer exude such an aura, while many of their compatriots have gotten worse.

Since I'm the only one organizing game nights that I know of around here, I cannot provide similar evidence for that. What I can say, though, is that I feel GOOD about myself after a night of swing dancing or gaming, while I feel vaguely guilty coming out of a bar, a club, a movie, or a dinner.
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All I got to say is, you give me hope for the younger generation! Keep it up bud! Take care and have FUN!!
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I love to dance!

Contra dance and Swing dance (preferably lindy hop) is where it's at.

Keep dancing!
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Love the green plastic canteen on the table... water? Or kikapoo juice?
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There is a swing dance microbadge.
 
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Love the green plastic canteen on the table... water? Or kikapoo juice?
He's in the army.
 
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Since this addresses larger issues, I posted it on another BGG forum as well.

tomski wrote:
Wow.... and I thought my wife and I were the only gamers who enjoy swing dance (or is that swing dancers who enjoy games? Actually, based on dance ability, it's the former!). Admittedly its a bit rarer in the UK


I'd have to say about half the folks I have over for game parties are those I know from swing dancing. In the realm of social activities between the genders, I find a great deal of similarity between the function of swing or social dancing (active) and game nights (sedentary) when compared to their prevalent alternatives: hip hop or club dancing (active) and movies, dinners or bars (sedentary).

1. Non-meat market atmosphere
Both of these focus on an ACTIVITY. I find club dancing to be sexually competitive, while social dancing is a much more a cooperative venture. Game nights, obviously, are a much less sexual way to interact with the opposite gender than going to a bar.

2. Emphasis on interaction and personality
I find that swing dancing is a social rather than a sexual interaction, while club dancing emphasizes dancing with an "object" - you're dancing with a bunch of body parts rather than a person. Watching movies emphasizes staring at a screen rather than interacting with the people you showed up with.

3. Non-commercial emphasis
I'm not saying that commerce plays no role in social dance or games, but the main reason you're getting together is not to spend money, as it often feels like when you go out to dinner, play poker, go to a movie, go to a bar or go to a club. Certainly the guy who owns all the games has forked out quite a bit, but selling the game rarely seems to be the focus when you get together to play. Similarly, the only drinks you're encouraged to go for in swing dance is water: it's outright dangerous to buy alcohol in a swing dance.

Please pardon me as I go into rant mode, but I think both of these activities performed a vital role in gender relations that has been missing since the 70's. The whole culture of couples getting together for "bridge night" has disintegrated. Many of the 19th century public buildings I've seen have an entire floor devoted to a ballroom which is no longer in use. Neither of these activities are prevalent anymore, which blocks access to the opposite gender for those who do not have an exhibitionist approach to their sexuality.

This isolation, in my opinion, creates a level of repression amongst those who are not sexually extroverted, a repression that I think can get expressed in stalking and other deviant behavior. I have some anecdotal evidence: several guys in swing dance who used to give girls "creepy vibes" but, after a few years of swing, contra, or other forms of dance, no longer exude such an aura, while many of their compatriots have gotten worse.

Since I'm the only one organizing game nights that I know of around here, I cannot provide similar evidence for that. What I can say, though, is that I feel GOOD about myself after a night of swing dancing or gaming, while I feel vaguely guilty coming out of a bar, a club, a movie, or a dinner.


Everything you say I agree with.
 
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Ambrose wrote:
Everything you say I agree with.

Yay! Thanks for the support!

Unfortunately, I fear that our swing environment here is unique. Upon visiting another town, I was saddened to find that a certain elitism was evident (i.e. "Oh no thank you, I'd rather not dance with you - I prefer someone who actually knows what they're doing").

Other friends of mine report a similar experience visiting other towns.

Nevertheless, both swing and games, if used properly, can be used to create a stronger sense of community, as is discussed in the following thread:

http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/181204
 
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Say, you dance?
Yeah, I started it as a form of rehab for my back, and next thing ya know I got all these great friends. You'd never catch me dead on a dance floor before then - just goes to show that the greatest misfortunes can carry the greatest opportunities if you've got an open mind.
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Ambrose wrote:
I love to dance!

Contra dance and Swing dance (preferably lindy hop) is where it's at.

Keep dancing!


contra dance?
what do you move up up down down left right left right
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contra dance?
what do you move up up down down left right left right

Well, "contra" to popular opinion (hee hee), everyone is organized into two big lines alternating guys/girls.

You do a "called" sequence of movement patterns with your partner and your "neighbor", which finishes with you moved down a slot. You repeat the pattern - same partner, but now with a different neighbor. Thus, by the time you're done, you've danced with everyone in the line.
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I came upon this thread, read down the posts, and saw the photo of a contra dance. Aha! Looks like Tracey Hall in Norwich. Lets see if I recognize anyone. Nah. Too blurred.

Then I mouse over the flag and discover Sight Reader lives in Colorado.

Pause a minute to reflect on the contra dance community being so large that Vermont melds into Colorado and we all share the joy of music and dancing. Peace.

Oh! Startled awareness. This photo is on BGG. This site melds even more people together to share the joy of board gaming. Life is good.

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I came upon this thread, read down the posts, and saw the photo of a contra dance. Aha! Looks like Tracey Hall in Norwich.

Hee...

Yes, the photos from our local dances here in Colorado are from a low angle, meaning they all just looked like a big clump of people milling about. In addition, our floor is a lot less open, meaning that the lines are much closer together so it's hard to see the structure.

This photo was the first one I found that clearly showed the structure so people could figure out how it differs from other types of dance.
 
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What I can say, though, is that I feel GOOD about myself after a night of swing dancing or gaming, while I feel vaguely guilty coming out of a bar, a club, a movie, or a dinner.


I've heard a theory that the reason that swing dancing exploded during the Great Depression is that people were depressed in the mental sense, and that intense cardio activity releases endorphins, which is a potent natural anti-depressant.
 
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hrhtomas wrote:
I've heard a theory that the reason that swing dancing exploded during the Great Depression is that people were depressed in the mental sense, and that intense cardio activity releases endorphins, which is a potent natural anti-depressant.

Interesting idea, although I don't know if it would be wise to do a lot of cardio when starving (nervous chuckle)...

Anyway, I think Swing exploded in the 20's mostly because it was one of the first ways to get that foot-tapping Afro-American rhythm into partner dancing. As far as any Depression uptick is concerned, I imagine it would have affected whatever dance was in style, whether it be waltz, barn dance or whatever. Any of those can be as energetic or laid-back as desired...


With all that being said, I find it tough to go out dancing when depressed. It takes energy to be presentable!
 
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