Those are pretty cool miniatures. I think it is a neat idea that they are selling the game separate from the miniatures so you don't have to invest an arse-load of money upfront (and, presumably, you would be free to find other sources for them as well).
Does anyone know if the Memoir '44 miniatures and the Tide Of Iron game pieces are the same or "very" similar in size to the Axis & Allies Board game pieces? Not the A & A Mini's that are the largest around.
Also, i'm selling all my Axis & Allies Mini's. I have almost everything.
how does this compare with the flames of war minis? Anyone have both? thanks in advance
All of them are smaller than the 15mm FoW Minis. While I don't have a FoW Panzer, both FoW and the newer, standardized A&A minis (sets 6, 7 & 8 -- 1939-1945, North Africa & Eastern Front) are 15mm. Here you can see the size difference between the old A&A mini and the new 15mm A&A mini from the North Africa set.
I am far, FAR from a tank expert (or a minis expert) but that M44 German tank looks to me a bit more like a Tiger than a Panzer, at least going by these pics ... (granted, I know there's an M44 scenario for sale that has "actual" Tiger tank minis in it, too, that don't look like those).
It doesn't look a LOT like the Tiger, but it doesn't have any armor over the tracks, its "superstructure" (???) isn't as wide as wide as the others, and the backside of the turret is different ... unless maybe they're different versions of Panzers, eg a Panzer II vs a Panzer IV or something?
Anyway, the ToI tank definitely looks better, but those WTM and A&A ones are pretty impressive.
I am far, FAR from a tank expert (or a minis expert) but that M44 German tank looks to me a bit more like a Tiger than a Panzer, at least going by these pics ... (granted, I know there's an M44 scenario for sale that has "actual" Tiger tank minis in it, too, that don't look like those).
It doesn't look a LOT like the Tiger, but it doesn't have any armor over the tracks, its "superstructure" (???) isn't as wide as wide as the others, and the backside of the turret is different ... unless maybe they're different versions of Panzers, eg a Panzer II vs a Panzer IV or something?
Anyway, the ToI tank definitely looks better, but those WTM and A&A ones are pretty impressive.
Not an expert here either, but the Memoir 44 Panzer looks, to me, like an early Panzer IV (Ausf. A-F1 perhaps) because of its shorter gun barrel. And not all Panzer IV's had armored skirts over their tracks/turret.
Ausf F1
Doesn't have any resemblance to a Tiger I or II, at all.
If anybody still cares. The model from M44 is a Panzer III. Which saw use throughout WW2. The other models are Panzer IVs. The Panzer IV made its appearance later in the war and early versions didn't even have the extended armor plating to cover their tracks.
If anybody still cares. The model from M44 is a Panzer III. Which saw use throughout WW2. The other models are Panzer IVs. The Panzer IV made its appearance later in the war and early versions didn't even have the extended armor plating to cover their tracks.
From what I've read, the Panzer IV was used throughout the war, including the Poland and France campaigns. Though in limited numbers, their were more PZ IVs used in Poland than PZ IIIs, but France more IIIs. Every model of the PZ IIIs from the first mass produced PZ Ausf E (1939) on had six road wheels, while the PZ IVs had eight. The number of wheels is the generally accepted way of determining whether a model is a production version PzKfw III or IV. If I'd have to commit to one or the other, I'd say the M'44 tank was a IV.
If anybody still cares. The model from M44 is a Panzer III. Which saw use throughout WW2. The other models are Panzer IVs. The Panzer IV made its appearance later in the war and early versions didn't even have the extended armor plating to cover their tracks.
Think I read in another post here that one of the definitive ways of identifying a tank is by the number of wheels within in tracks. The PzIII has 6, and the PzIV has 8 as in the M44 mini; so I'm still voting PzIV.
