My name is Glenn! Long have I carried Cyrus's hopes and dreams, and now I bear the Masamune as well! Henceforth, I claim them as my own! I shall slay the Fiendlord Magus and restore our honor!
Ah once again someone posts a picture that has a pretty lady in it and all of you who still live in your parents basement go bonkers with the inappropriate comments. In the words of William Shatner " go out and kiss a girl!"
Just another reminder of why I will never posts pics of my wife of daughters here.
Sad....
I think a lot of you owe Jason, who I do not know, an apology.
Ah once again someone posts a picture that has a pretty lady in it and all of you who still live in your parents basement go bonkers with the inappropriate comments. In the words of William Shatner " go out and kiss a girl!"
Just another reminder of why I will never posts pics of my wife of daughters here.
Sad....
I think a lot of you owe Jason, who I do not know, an apology.
Thanks - that is kind of what I wanted to say, but I didn't know how to say it.
Sure, people can say "if you don't want to be offended by certain pictures, don't click on them". Problem is, they show up on the front page of BGG, and I always click on the pictures on the front page of BGG to see what pics are new. And since I am running my screen at 1280x1024 on a 17", I can't see detail until AFTER I click on the picture. Given the nature of the content, one can't help but read the comments, then feel ashamed to consider myself a geek.
But then again, it doesn't surprise. For some of the people that I know that play games at my FLGS, there are quite a few "boardgamers" that could really take Shatner's advice to heart.
Ah once again someone posts a picture that has a pretty lady in it and all of you who still live in your parents basement go bonkers with the inappropriate comments.
You should be really ashamed for defining the human in this pic as a "pretty lady." You have no right to comment on the attractiveness or unattractiveness of a person who might be someone's girlfriend, wife, or mother. I think someone owes Jason and "the Pretty Lady" an apology.
(sorry . . . I got all hot and bothered with all the preaching going on in the thread and I'm a sucker for a bandwagon.)
For the record, this is simply a picture of my wife playing Bausack. It's one of a few gaming pictures I have that I dug out and decided to post. I don't really think anyone owes me an apology - the reaction wasn't entirely unexpected.
I am more disappointed in the responses that seem to indicate that I should have NOT posted a picture of her enjoying the game. I certainly could have tried to convince her to cover herself with big baggy sweatshirts or burlap for a BGG photo op, but since it wasn't staged, she just appears as she is. Sorry for any offense to those who think gaming should be a male-centric hobby or that women shouldn't wear tank tops when playing games. If there's a dress-code policy I've missed somewhere in my years of gaming, please point me in the right direction.
ANYHOO, for those that complimented her, thanks from her. She most definitely is worthy of the compliments. For those that are disgusted by the appearance of an attractive woman enjoying a game, all I can say is "really?" (Please make the "really" as sarcastic as I intend it.)
Ah once again someone posts a picture that has a pretty lady in it and all of you who still live in your parents basement go bonkers with the inappropriate comments. In the words of William Shatner " go out and kiss a girl!"
For the record, this is simply a picture of my wife playing Bausack. It's one of a few gaming pictures I have that I dug out and decided to post. I don't really think anyone owes me an apology - the reaction wasn't entirely unexpected.
I am more disappointed in the responses that seem to indicate that I should have NOT posted a picture of her enjoying the game. I certainly could have tried to convince her to cover herself with big baggy sweatshirts or burlap for a BGG photo op, but since it wasn't staged, she just appears as she is. Sorry for any offense to those who think gaming should be a male-centric hobby or that women shouldn't wear tank tops when playing games. If there's a dress-code policy I've missed somewhere in my years of gaming, please point me in the right direction.
ANYHOO, for those that complimented her, thanks from her. She most definitely is worthy of the compliments. For those that are disgusted by the appearance of an attractive woman enjoying a game, all I can say is "really?" (Please make the "really" as sarcastic as I intend it.)
Finally someone with sense around here.
Let me just say, great catch! You get an amazingly attractive wife who plays board games and she gets a nice guy with brains, win-win there!
I guess I should stop trying to get quality pictures through the geekmod process and just submit stuff like this instead.
This picture is of the highest quality. ygos?
Please explain how this photo is of the highest quality? There is an empty chair, a date stamp covering the game, a kitchen that has nothing to do with the photo, and a hanging picture, table, and a display cabinet that create weird diagonal lines that make everything in the photo look askew.
There is one reason this got through the geekmod process and it is not a good one. It is the same reason that this photo has so many thumbs.
For the same reason, I will never post a revealing picture of my wife in a male dominated public forum
hmmm...I thought this was a boardgaming site, not a photography/art site. I'm not captain photography, nor am I captain photoshop, so I have no clue how to get rid of the date stamp or "properly" compose a photo. I will make an effort in my next submissions to crop out ANYTHING that doesn't relate to the game (i.e. The kitchen, hanging picture, etc. - am I allowed to keep the table in the photo? )
Again, thanks to those with the positiv comments, and thanks to those less than positive that were constructive in their criticism!
The truly sad thing is the lack of respect some of the comments show for the woman in the picture and her family, including disrespect for the user who posted the picture. This is supposed to be a community of sorts, but we treat each other by saying of other users and their spouses things like "I'd give her a double entendre". That is just pathetic. Show some respect. Game players are often stereotyped as being tools, and the disrespectful comments help perpetuate that. Of course, if this picture was posted on a non-gaming website, say a sports website, I'm sure some of the comments would be just as disgraceful. So maybe it has nothing to do with gaming, maybe some men are just disrespectful, sexist morons. A person should be able to post a totally innocent picture of a family member playing a game without subjecting the photographed person to such juvenile nonsense.
For the record, this is simply a picture of my wife playing Bausack. It's one of a few gaming pictures I have that I dug out and decided to post. I don't really think anyone owes me an apology - the reaction wasn't entirely unexpected.
I am more disappointed in the responses that seem to indicate that I should have NOT posted a picture of her enjoying the game. I certainly could have tried to convince her to cover herself with big baggy sweatshirts or burlap for a BGG photo op, but since it wasn't staged, she just appears as she is. Sorry for any offense to those who think gaming should be a male-centric hobby or that women shouldn't wear tank tops when playing games. If there's a dress-code policy I've missed somewhere in my years of gaming, please point me in the right direction.
ANYHOO, for those that complimented her, thanks from her. She most definitely is worthy of the compliments. For those that are disgusted by the appearance of an attractive woman enjoying a game, all I can say is "really?" (Please make the "really" as sarcastic as I intend it.)
My personal objection seems to be in line with the general objection here. My objection is not that a pretty lady is shown in modestly revealing clothing. My objection is to all of the inane comments. This is a perfectly appropriate picture to post in my opinion. I just wish that my children could more freely use this website without the insinuation these kinds of comments and attitudes are appropriate.
On the other hand, I am impressed that the objections are made here. I don't think other Internet forums would be so balanced in this way.
There is something to be said for ALL of the pictures, in that most folks try and show off a certain aspect or attraction or composed element, showing off games. Its not scientific or misogynistic all of the time, and thats what makes for a good variety of images. The degree to which we allow all others to enjoy their experience and share OUR experience is the hobby and "geeking". I wish my wife would play more games, but she's much more of a puzzle and computer-game person (she KILLS me at anything anagramy or Scrabbly) but I enjoy most of my games with my kids, and have enough "serious" games for my group of guys. I get a lot of ideas from my kids, and figuring out ways for them to enjoy and benefit from, great gaming experiences. It enriches our lives.
So, thanks for sharing a photo of your lovely wife, and I hope you continue to have the wonderful shared experience of gaming with her for many, many years.
I guess I should stop trying to get quality pictures through the geekmod process and just submit stuff like this instead.
This picture is of the highest quality. ygos?
Please explain how this photo is of the highest quality? There is an empty chair, a date stamp covering the game, a kitchen that has nothing to do with the photo, and a hanging picture, table, and a display cabinet that create weird diagonal lines that make everything in the photo look askew.
Askew? Good heavens, good sir!
The only thing your posts are missing, when considering your avatar and attitude, are the words "POPPYCOCK!!" and "RUBBISH!" tacked on to the end.
I guess I should stop trying to get quality pictures through the geekmod process and just submit stuff like this instead.
This picture is of the highest quality. ygos?
Please explain how this photo is of the highest quality? There is an empty chair, a date stamp covering the game, a kitchen that has nothing to do with the photo, and a hanging picture, table, and a display cabinet that create weird diagonal lines that make everything in the photo look askew.
Askew? Good heavens, good sir!
The only thing your posts are missing, when considering your avatar and attitude, are the words "POPPYCOCK!!" and "RUBBISH!" tacked on to the end.
Please allow me to vent my gall. You, good sir, have affronted me grossly. Expect my barrister to contact your barrister posthaste. I will warrant it!
Please explain how this photo is of the highest quality? There is an empty chair, a date stamp covering the game, a kitchen that has nothing to do with the photo, and a hanging picture, table, and a display cabinet that create weird diagonal lines that make everything in the photo look askew.
Theres a chair? date stamp? kitchen, what? I didn't see any of those things when I looked at that picture.
The truly sad thing is the lack of respect some of the comments show for the woman in the picture and her family, including disrespect for the user who posted the picture. This is supposed to be a community of sorts, but we treat each other by saying of other users and their spouses things like "I'd give her a double entendre". That is just pathetic. Show some respect. Game players are often stereotyped as being tools, and the disrespectful comments help perpetuate that. Of course, if this picture was posted on a non-gaming website, say a sports website, I'm sure some of the comments would be just as disgraceful. So maybe it has nothing to do with gaming, maybe some men are just disrespectful, sexist morons. A person should be able to post a totally innocent picture of a family member playing a game without subjecting the photographed person to such juvenile nonsense.
Which is worse the "picture police" or the "comment commissars?"
The truly sad thing is the lack of respect some of the comments show for the woman in the picture and her family, including disrespect for the user who posted the picture. This is supposed to be a community of sorts, but we treat each other by saying of other users and their spouses things like "I'd give her a double entendre". That is just pathetic. Show some respect. Game players are often stereotyped as being tools, and the disrespectful comments help perpetuate that. Of course, if this picture was posted on a non-gaming website, say a sports website, I'm sure some of the comments would be just as disgraceful. So maybe it has nothing to do with gaming, maybe some men are just disrespectful, sexist morons. A person should be able to post a totally innocent picture of a family member playing a game without subjecting the photographed person to such juvenile nonsense.
Which is worse the "picture police" or the "comment commissars?"
What...What?
So where do we draw the line? If someone posted a picture of his wife playing a game, and she was less than attactive so to speak, would it be okay to say things like "wow, your wife's a disgusting pig", or "gee, can you really get aroused by that beast?"? I think most people would agree that such comments would not be socially acceptable. So what makes it acceptable if it goes the other way? And don't say they are compliments; several of the comments on this thread alone are barely disguised versions of "I'd like to have sex with your wife". To me that shows a total lack of respect. The funny thing is, if someone were to make such a comment, even some of the milder comments on this thread, about someone's wife to their face they'd probably get punched in the face. But somehow it's okay to say such things virtually anonymously, via computer, from far away while hiding behind an avatar. I think that's cowardly and wrong, and disrespectful. If that makes me a "comment commissar", so be it.
The truly sad thing is the lack of respect some of the comments show for the woman in the picture and her family, including disrespect for the user who posted the picture. This is supposed to be a community of sorts, but we treat each other by saying of other users and their spouses things like "I'd give her a double entendre". That is just pathetic. Show some respect. Game players are often stereotyped as being tools, and the disrespectful comments help perpetuate that. Of course, if this picture was posted on a non-gaming website, say a sports website, I'm sure some of the comments would be just as disgraceful. So maybe it has nothing to do with gaming, maybe some men are just disrespectful, sexist morons. A person should be able to post a totally innocent picture of a family member playing a game without subjecting the photographed person to such juvenile nonsense.
Which is worse the "picture police" or the "comment commissars?"
What...What?
So where do we draw the line? If someone posted a picture of his wife playing a game, and she was less than attactive so to speak, would it be okay to say things like "wow, your wife's a disgusting pig", or "gee, can you really get aroused by that beast?"? I think most people would agree that such comments would not be socially acceptable. So what makes it acceptable if it goes the other way? And don't say they are compliments; several of the comments on this thread alone are barely disguised versions of "I'd like to have sex with your wife". To me that shows a total lack of respect. The funny thing is, if someone were to make such a comment, even some of the milder comments on this thread, about someone's wife to their face they'd probably get punched in the face. But somehow it's okay to say such things virtually anonymously, via computer, from far away while hiding behind an avatar. I think that's cowardly and wrong, and disrespectful. If that makes me a "comment commissar", so be it.
By that idiotic logic no one should ever compliment people. I mean if "you are stupid" isn't OK, why should "you are brilliant" be OK? ... Right? At least that is what you're saying, which is completely off basis.
A few of the comments are boardering on rude, but nothing is overtly rude and the poster doesn't seem to have a problem that people are oogling his wife, so I don't see why YOU should get bent out of shape. If he had a problem I could understand why you would stop making comments about her, but he and she doesn't seem to mind, so leave it as it is.
I think your touch with reality is off basis too. I've told many people that their wife is attractive or joked around like that and never been punched in the face -- the worst I've gotten is a snide look, but usually we just laugh about it.
People I know are comfortable with their wives and don't think people are going to be hitting on their wife as an attempt to get some action with them -- it is THEIR WIFE so obviously they are taken, and I don't think they are so insecure that they would think their wife would cheap on them.
The truly sad thing is the lack of respect some of the comments show for the woman in the picture and her family, including disrespect for the user who posted the picture. This is supposed to be a community of sorts, but we treat each other by saying of other users and their spouses things like "I'd give her a double entendre". That is just pathetic. Show some respect. Game players are often stereotyped as being tools, and the disrespectful comments help perpetuate that. Of course, if this picture was posted on a non-gaming website, say a sports website, I'm sure some of the comments would be just as disgraceful. So maybe it has nothing to do with gaming, maybe some men are just disrespectful, sexist morons. A person should be able to post a totally innocent picture of a family member playing a game without subjecting the photographed person to such juvenile nonsense.
Which is worse the "picture police" or the "comment commissars?"
What...What?
So where do we draw the line? If someone posted a picture of his wife playing a game, and she was less than attactive so to speak, would it be okay to say things like "wow, your wife's a disgusting pig", or "gee, can you really get aroused by that beast?"? I think most people would agree that such comments would not be socially acceptable. So what makes it acceptable if it goes the other way? And don't say they are compliments; several of the comments on this thread alone are barely disguised versions of "I'd like to have sex with your wife". To me that shows a total lack of respect. The funny thing is, if someone were to make such a comment, even some of the milder comments on this thread, about someone's wife to their face they'd probably get punched in the face. But somehow it's okay to say such things virtually anonymously, via computer, from far away while hiding behind an avatar. I think that's cowardly and wrong, and disrespectful. If that makes me a "comment commissar", so be it.
By that idiotic logic no one should ever compliment people. I mean if "you are stupid" isn't OK, why should "you are brilliant" be OK? ... Right? At least that is what you're saying, which is completely off basis.
A few of the comments are boardering on rude, but nothing is overtly rude and the poster doesn't seem to have a problem that people are oogling his wife, so I don't see why YOU should get bent out of shape. If he had a problem I could understand why you would stop making comments about her, but he and she doesn't seem to mind, so leave it as it is.
I think your touch with reality is off basis too. I've told many people that their wife is attractive or joked around like that and never been punched in the face -- the worst I've gotten is a snide look, but usually we just laugh about it.
People I know are comfortable with their wives and don't think people are going to be hitting on their wife as an attempt to get some action with them -- it is THEIR WIFE so obviously they are taken, and I don't think they are so insecure that they would think their wife would cheap on them.
Beat me to it. Obviously, if the poster or his wife was insulted, then some of us leering pig-dogs of men would need to apologize for our libidinous eyes. Since neither seems offended, then can we chalk it up to the normal male/female bantering of a quasi-sexual nature that many many healthy adults engage in?
The truly sad thing is the lack of respect some of the comments show for the woman in the picture and her family, including disrespect for the user who posted the picture. This is supposed to be a community of sorts, but we treat each other by saying of other users and their spouses things like "I'd give her a double entendre". That is just pathetic. Show some respect. Game players are often stereotyped as being tools, and the disrespectful comments help perpetuate that. Of course, if this picture was posted on a non-gaming website, say a sports website, I'm sure some of the comments would be just as disgraceful. So maybe it has nothing to do with gaming, maybe some men are just disrespectful, sexist morons. A person should be able to post a totally innocent picture of a family member playing a game without subjecting the photographed person to such juvenile nonsense.
Which is worse the "picture police" or the "comment commissars?"
What...What?
So where do we draw the line? If someone posted a picture of his wife playing a game, and she was less than attactive so to speak, would it be okay to say things like "wow, your wife's a disgusting pig", or "gee, can you really get aroused by that beast?"? I think most people would agree that such comments would not be socially acceptable. So what makes it acceptable if it goes the other way? And don't say they are compliments; several of the comments on this thread alone are barely disguised versions of "I'd like to have sex with your wife". To me that shows a total lack of respect. The funny thing is, if someone were to make such a comment, even some of the milder comments on this thread, about someone's wife to their face they'd probably get punched in the face. But somehow it's okay to say such things virtually anonymously, via computer, from far away while hiding behind an avatar. I think that's cowardly and wrong, and disrespectful. If that makes me a "comment commissar", so be it.
By that idiotic logic no one should ever compliment people. I mean if "you are stupid" isn't OK, why should "you are brilliant" be OK? ... Right? At least that is what you're saying, which is completely off basis.
A few of the comments are boardering on rude, but nothing is overtly rude and the poster doesn't seem to have a problem that people are oogling his wife, so I don't see why YOU should get bent out of shape. If he had a problem I could understand why you would stop making comments about her, but he and she doesn't seem to mind, so leave it as it is.
I think your touch with reality is off basis too. I've told many people that their wife is attractive or joked around like that and never been punched in the face -- the worst I've gotten is a snide look, but usually we just laugh about it.
People I know are comfortable with their wives and don't think people are going to be hitting on their wife as an attempt to get some action with them -- it is THEIR WIFE so obviously they are taken, and I don't think they are so insecure that they would think their wife would cheap on them.
If you can't see the difference between "your wife is beautiful" and "your wife has a great rack and I'd like to ______" then I think you are the one who is out of touch with reality. You are right about one thing, however. The poster seems less offended by it than me. Maybe I'm just too old-fashioned.
Beat me to it. Obviously, if the poster or his wife was insulted, then some of us leering pig-dogs of men would need to apologize for our libidinous eyes. Since neither seems offended, then can we chalk it up to the normal male/female bantering of a quasi-sexual nature that many many healthy adults engage in?
First, lets not make more of this than it is. We are all presumably adults voicing our opinions. That is all, no venom, no hatred.
Now, I find your comment interesting. You want to "chalk it up to the normal male/female bantering of a quasi-sexual nature that many many healthy adults engage in". I tell you it is offensive. Can you and others take me at my word that it offends me? Do I have any right to hope that BGG can be a cut above a typical Internet forum? Board games being rather more family oriented in nature, I do expect BGG to be a little more family oriented than other parts of the Internet.
Not everyone will agree. So be it. My opinion will be heard though. Please keep lewd and suggestive comments to yourself. Thank you.
I've avoided commenting on this because I'm a woman and I'm sure all of you will jump all over me for being "overly-sensitive-blah-blah-blah" but here is my two cents: This man posted a photo about a game. If your comments were related to the game that the player is playing, or the player's game play, or the player's apparent pleasure in her game, that would be ON topic. Spinning off into a flurry of boobie jokes has NO relation to what we discuss on this site, which is games, and is therefore inappropriate. (And yes, if you're talking about Busen Memo, then discussion of the boobies within the game is valid).
Furthermore, you may want to consider (or perhaps you just don't care about this point) that other women will see this and think those of you who commented inappropriately are infantile and further perpetuate the "geeks aren't worthy of a date" feeling that I have seen so many of you complain of.
I've avoided commenting on this because I'm a woman and I'm sure all of you will jump all over me for being "overly-sensitive-blah-blah-blah" but here is my two cents: This man posted a photo about a game. If your comments were related to the game that the player is playing, or the player's game play, or the player's apparent pleasure in her game, that would be ON topic. Spinning off into a flurry of boobie jokes has NO relation to what we discuss on this site, which is games, and is therefore inappropriate. (And yes, if you're talking about Busen Memo, then discussion of the boobies within the game is valid).
Furthermore, you may want to consider (or perhaps you just don't care about this point) that other women will see this and think those of you who commented inappropriately are infantile and further perpetuate the "geeks aren't worthy of a date" feeling that I have seen so many of you complain of.
I rightfully agree and disagree. This is a website not just about board games, but about the GEEKS who play them (note the name).
If it was JUST about the games, then they would not allow pictures of people playing the games in the shot (like they used to do). So indirectly it is still on topic, although I guess you could argue that all the banter about talking about the girl is off topic.
Furthermore, the only women I would want to date would be ones who would see my comments and judge them as JOKES and wouldn't take life so serious as to complain about it every chance they get.
Finally, there are remarks about any picture -- girl or otherwise -- that could be considered immature or rude in nature, but I don't see everyone else getting bent out of shape about it. For example, what about all the phallic references to the king in El Grande? Is that immature and childish? Probably, but it is also damn funny and true. What about people commenting on a designer's crazy green hair (you know the one)? Is making silly remarks about it wrong? I guess it depends on how you define "wrong" and where you set your standards. But I don't think it is wrong.
In the end, each person has their own idea of what is "right" and what is "wrong," so why do you complain on what they think is correct? Obviously the uploader of the picture doesn't have a problem with the remarks (he is a wise person) so why do YOU? If you don't like it, don't read it -- it isn't that complex people!
Stexe, I haven't yet played El Grande, but I'm assuming the king isn't an actual person; so you're making phallic jokes about a game component, which I think is very appropriate (and funny). It's fine to objectify an object. Not so with a person.
I think that the kind of jokes being made here have a time and place. I make boob jokes myself when I'm doing comedy for an audience, or joking with my friends. A public forum dedicated to games (and the geeks that love them) is not the place.
First off, I love these comments. Second, I think you sold this game to my girlfriend, she says it looks lots of fun. So no matter what the thread devolves to, you sold a game lol.
First off, I love these comments. Second, I think you sold this game to my girlfriend, she says it looks lots of fun. So no matter what the thread devolves to, you sold a game lol.
Ya. I just have to buy the game. Not because of this picture but because my friends are obsessed with stacking game pieces on top of each other while they listen to instructions and they have a strange interest in the perverse... and a game with a name that sounds like ballsack, it just fits so perfect.
Stexe, I haven't yet played El Grande, but I'm assuming the king isn't an actual person; so you're making phallic jokes about a game component, which I think is very appropriate (and funny). It's fine to objectify an object. Not so with a person.
I think that the kind of jokes being made here have a time and place. I make boob jokes myself when I'm doing comedy for an audience, or joking with my friends. A public forum dedicated to games (and the geeks that love them) is not the place.
Ok, and then what about people making funny of Friedemann Friese's green hair? Is that immature and childish?
What about the fat people who post pics of themselves and get silly comments? Is that immature and childish?
The answer is "yes" to all of the above -- but that doesn't mean it is WRONG. As long as the comment isn't purely spiteful I don't think there is a problem with it.
Well, if when you make fun of Friedmann Friese's green hair by implying that it's sexually arousing and would like to make sweet sweet love to it, I would also call that inappropriate.
Well, if when you make fun of Friedmann Friese's green hair by implying that it's sexually arousing and would like to make sweet sweet love to it, I would also call that inappropriate.
So, now the problem isn't the fact that people aren't speaking about games or being immature, now it's about sexual attraction... The picture has a 5% of boardgame. As somebody said before, the picture barely shows the game. The picture is about the player. The player is a (by my standards) very attractive woman. The user who posted it was clearly expecting (and desiring?) this kind of comments.
Well, if when you make fun of Friedmann Friese's green hair by implying that it's sexually arousing and would like to make sweet sweet love to it, I would also call that inappropriate.
So, now the problem isn't the fact that people aren't speaking about games or being immature, now it's about sexual attraction... The picture has a 5% of boardgame. As somebody said before, the picture barely shows the game. The picture is about the player. The player is a (by my standards) very attractive woman. The user who posted it was clearly expecting (and desiring?) this kind of comments.
And the picture got approved...
The picture shows a person and a board game, that is why it is categorized under the "People" section. I don't see what the problem is. Maybe I could understand if it was categorized under the Games section, but it isn't so you shouldn't complain.
Did anyone *really* look at the picture? There's two pieces at the side, on the table - a red and a black one. This is not allowed by the rules of Bausack. All pieces have to go on top of the base block.
You guys really are distracted by women, aren't you
several of the comments on this thread alone are barely disguised versions of "I'd like to have sex with your wife".
They are? I've heard people say those things about marble statues: do they want to have sex with marble statues? And since the statements are disguised, who are you to judge the intent behind the mask?
relic10 wrote:
To me that shows a total lack of respect.
Then you have a funny idea about what respect means. Maybe watch a little less Oprah. I honour and worship the beautiful and the sexual in every manner it reveals itself to me. My reverence could not be any more "respectful."
relic10 wrote:
The funny thing is, if someone were to make such a comment, even some of the milder comments on this thread, about someone's wife to their face they'd probably get punched in the face.
Nothing anyone could say would warrant violence as a response. Respect, indeed.
Wrayman wrote:
My opinion will be heard though. Please keep lewd and suggestive comments to yourself. Thank you.
If you insist your opinion be heard, surely you cannot in the same breath ask other to stifle theirs?
Y 
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