Shouldn't the 'Ithil Stone' card read 'Palantir'? I guess as there are several Palantiri, Ithil Stone makes more sense. And as for the Lidless Eye, well...
Shouldn't the 'Ithil Stone' card read 'Palantir'? I guess as there are several Palantiri, Ithil Stone makes more sense.
I guess it depends what the card is referring to in the game. There were originally eight Palantiri, seven of which were brought to Middle Earth by Elendil. The Ithil Stone was the one that was captured by Sauron when Minis Ithil was taken by the Nazgul. It was in posession of Sauron until it was destoyed during the fall of Barad Dur during the War of the Ring.
So, if FFG have done their research that card should be a Shadow card, in possession of Sauron. If it's the Palantir that is in possession of Saruman or the one in possession of Denethor, it shouldn't be caled the Ithil Stone
Shouldn't the 'Ithil Stone' card read 'Palantir'? I guess as there are several Palantiri, Ithil Stone makes more sense.
I guess it depends what the card is referring to in the game. There were originally eight Palantiri, seven of which were brought to Middle Earth by Elendil. The Ithil Stone was the one that was captured by Sauron when Minis Ithil was taken by the Nazgul. It was in posession of Sauron until it was destoyed during the fall of Barad Dur during the War of the Ring.
So, if FFG have done their research that card should be a Shadow card, in possession of Sauron. If it's the Palantir that is in possession of Saruman or the one in possession of Denethor, it shouldn't be caled the Ithil Stone
I think they have. They're pretty keen on things as such sometimes
I can find that Elendil and his sons took seven Seeing-stones with them when they fled from Numenor, but I can't find any reference to the eighth stone? What are Your sources?
In the Third Age on year 2002 when Sauron's minions took the Minas Ithil the Ithil stone was lost and only the Palantiri in Minas Tirith and Orthanc remained.
I can find that Elendil and his sons took seven Seeing-stones with them when they fled from Numenor, but I can't find any reference to the eighth stone? What are Your sources?
In the Silmarillion pg 291-292 there is a useful section in "Of The Rings Of Power And The Third Age". It says "Many treasures and great heirlooms of virtue and wonder the Exiles had brought from Numenor and of these the most renowned were the Seven Stones and the White Tree"
It goes on to mention that the seven were "...set in the towers upon Emyn Beraid and Amon Sul and in the city of Annuminas. But those of his sons were at Minas Ithil and Minas Anor and at Orthanc and in Osgiliath."
So, that's the seven that came to Numenor and then on to Middle Earth, but there is an eighth stone mentioned, a Master Stone. Pg 292 talks of when Elendil used to gaze out over the seas from the tower at Emyn Beriad and that "[i]...thus he would at whiles see far away, even the Tower of Avallone upon Eressea, where the Master Stone abode and yet abides."
Same feeling about this game. A hell of a chance wasted to create a new cooperative game "against the system". All that money can be saved for the really interesting new FFG-releases that are OF COURSE not even mentioned in their Upcoming file : "Tide of Iron Fury of the Bear" and "Battles of Napoleon : The Eagle and the Lion" (Nexus).
So, that's the seven that came to Numenor and then on to Middle Earth, but there is an eighth stone mentioned, a Master Stone. Pg 292 talks of when Elendil used to gaze out over the seas from the tower at Emyn Beriad and that "...thus he would at whiles see far away, even the Tower of Avallone upon Eressea, where the Master Stone abode and yet abides."
Since the different editions differ I was unable to find it but now that You mention it I recall the Master Stone. But from that I'm making a wild assumption - why would the elves keep the Master Stone but give all the Palantiri to men? It would be like hand out cell-phones but keeping the central office. Therefore I speculate that more than 8 were made... But I have no materials to prove my theories
But thanks for the reason to once again dive into the Book
I'm a bit late to the discussion, but I think the Ithil Stone is properly named (although I'm not a total Tolkien scholar)...it is the Ithil Stone with Sauron that caused Denethor to be driven to madness and Saruman to turn to the dark side. If there were no stone in Barad Dur, what would they have seen when they looked into the Palantiri?
(And besides, what other name could they give and still give the Sauron player a couple of options in case one of the cards had already been played?)
By the way, I love the fact that it is a many-versus-one game.
Hello, my game (Harbinger) is a "play against the board" type of fantasy RPG/board game, but you can also play with Evil characters who attempt to assist the board and antagonize the Good characters.
