I mean even to a non-painter it is obvious that this paint job is extremely amateur and executed using a base coat and a lousy dry brushing technique using some kind of metallic paint. If you ask me - it's a ruined raptor. I these overly joyful and encouraging comments like 'hurray, way to go!' and 'wow, it's awesome', when there is a dreadfully painted mass of colors in the picture above. Go check http://coolminiornot.com/ or something to get a clear idea of what is considered 'cool' and what is considered 'low level painting'. You should encourage PROGRESS not continued failure by praising something that is not worth the praise.
These are plastic minis that come with a board game. 90% of players don't ever take a brush to them (I made that up.) I would hapily trade my boring gray raptors for these ones.
Not everyone has disposable income and time to hone their skills. If people don't recieve encouragement, then there will be far fewer model painters, amatuer or not.
Yes, I must agree with your point. All the overjoy, however, is still somewhat disturbing
What is more disturbing is the desire to deride the efforts of a beginner, who has never claimed to be an expert. Some people take pleasure in running others down, others in lifting them up. I like to encourage people. You must be the other sort.
I used to be seriously into miniature painting and spent time on coolmini. I have some models up there that were well received, but stopped spending time there, and on miniatures in general, due to the egotistical and downright mean-spirited lot that feel the need to act as critics for, really, only their own benefit.
This is a board gaming site, not a minature painting competition.
And how does a painted mini help you board game better? If somoene PAINTS something, you evaluate the PAINT JOB. That's how I see things. And criticism is mainly a thing that drives people to perfection. If everyone became happy and positive it would stop the progress of our society. Naturally, there are societies that encourage such behaviour as 10 million like minded "robots" are easier to control than people who tend to express themselves and do not fear to tell how they actually feel about something. AT LEAST say something like, yeay, thanks for trying, but you could improve on this and that. As I said before, you just encourage people to stay bad at something. I mean, why get better if everyone is extremely happy with the way it is now? I see that this board gaming site is about posting positive comments or staying out whatsoever. Very democratic indeed. Cheers!
I mean even to a non-painter it is obvious that this paint job is extremely amateur and executed using a base coat and a lousy dry brushing technique using some kind of metallic paint. If you ask me - it's a ruined raptor. I these overly joyful and encouraging comments like 'hurray, way to go!' and 'wow, it's awesome', when there is a dreadfully painted mass of colors in the picture above. Go check http://coolminiornot.com/ or something to get a clear idea of what is considered 'cool' and what is considered 'low level painting'. You should encourage PROGRESS not continued failure by praising something that is not worth the praise.
As someone with a few years of Warhammer and a few painting awards under my belt, I'll go ahead and chime in on this one:
I come to BoardGameGeek looking for cool discussions about board games and neat modifications to board games. This mini is better than stock, and that adds to the experience this player gets while boardgaming. You can deride his technique all you want, but the truth is a simple drybrushing adds a LOT to a tiny fig.
Furthermore, I have to complement the artist's camera work. Photographing small minis is no easy task (as can be seen by the depth of field on the top of the image) and you really brought out the detail in the model.
Getting back to Plaukai's post, however: There are times when you want to win a Golden Daemon, paint in all Non-Metallics, and make things shiny and clean. A raptor that's been through the muck is not one of those times. Is the technique a simple one? Sure. Is it not the cleanest method? Absolutely not. Was it the right technique for this model? Yes.
Good on you, Dodya, looks great. Keep up the good work
Dude Sarunas...What is gained by this post? Do you feel better now that you've brought someone else down? Please don't post things like this again unless you are being helpful. Maybe something like. "Hey nice first run! If you want some tips on how to hone your skills go to this website..."
Yeah, do that! Just expressed my negative opinion which is a no-no in the states I've heard that people in the US tend to be extremely positive about anything and even when clearly despise something keep smiling and saying nice things always pat someone on a shoulder and encourage him/her. I wanted to test the extent of this positivism and there I have it! One thing about the states I like. It's Doug Stanhope who says things other people aren't telling you. Give him a chance, he just might make you understand. In Europe my negative comment would be counted as a good one as it actually says something new on the subject. Having 25 comments saying "wow", "way to go", "awesome" when I know my drawings aren't top notch does not make me feel better.
Yeah, do that! Just expressed my negative opinion which is a no-no in the states I've heard that people in the US tend to be extremely positive about anything and even when clearly despise something keep smiling and saying nice things always pat someone on a shoulder and encourage him/her. I wanted to test the extent of this positivism and there I have it!
It's not that you expressed a negative opinion, it's that you expressed it in an insulting manner. Don't try to pretend you were being attacked just because you weren't a cheerleader. You were attacked because you came out swinging in a way that was totally unnecessary.
Okay, I was a bid of offensive... my temper must have gotten the best of me. Expressing negative opinions is tricky, I'll try and be more careful next time. I appreciate everyones input as through these kinds of things a person learns.
