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Himeji Samurai Castle? What the? Himejijo or Himeji castle should have explained enough... haven't been there, I would not call it a wonder of the world either.
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It's the same thing in Civ Rev and Civ 5.
Don't blame FFG =)
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I've been to Himeji, and were thoroughly impressed by the level of detail in its defenses. Allegedly the only castle in Japan that has never been conquered.
I don't know what cultural impact the castle has had, but merely as a defensive construction, and the size of it, I'm ok with considering this a wonder... at least as much as I'd do the Statue of Liberty and the Sidney Opera House... if not more so.
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It was never attacked. I'm not sure that's correct that it is the only one never conquered, I know Osakajo was never attacked as well.
 
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I'm completely prepared to accept the possibility that the japanese guide fibbed in order to impress the tourists
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Where are the PYRAMIDS???



I like the wonders, really, but isn't it a bit strange that the pyramids aren't part of them? Especially since you can play the egyptians?

But beside this I really like the wonders. Would be nice to see Taj Mahal, the Alhambra or the Voyage of Magellan, too, in a future expansion Perhaps a wonder of south american origin, too?
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Konwacht wrote:
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Where are the PYRAMIDS???



I like the wonders, really, but isn't it a bit strange that the pyramids aren't part of them? Especially since you can play the egyptians?

But beside this I really like the wonders. Would be nice to see Taj Mahal, the Alhambra or the Voyage of Magellan, too, in a future expansion Perhaps a wonder of south american origin, too?



For the pyramids, you'd better buy 7 wonders
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Konwacht wrote:
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Where are the PYRAMIDS???


FFG needs to save something for the expansion.
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Plenty of stuff they can do for an expansion:
-New Wonders
-New Techs
-New Civs
-New Culture cards

They don't even really need to design new mechanics. There's so much room to expand on existing mechanics!
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Plenty of stuff they can do for an expansion:
-New Wonders
-New Techs
-New Civs
-New Culture cards

They don't even really need to design new mechanics. There's so much room to expand on existing mechanics!


Indeed, I would prefer adding such new stuff (more options to choose from) rather than adding new game mechanics that most times only tend to make a game more complex
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Konwacht wrote:
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Where are the PYRAMIDS???



I like the wonders, really, but isn't it a bit strange that the pyramids aren't part of them? Especially since you can play the egyptians?

But beside this I really like the wonders. Would be nice to see Taj Mahal, the Alhambra or the Voyage of Magellan, too, in a future expansion Perhaps a wonder of south american origin, too?


I'm also a bit disappointed with the selection of Wonders. Sure, there's an opportunity for an expansion there, but in order to be worthwhile it will take more than a few new cards. (I'd like to see a Diplomatic victory condition and City States a la Civilization V.)

As to South American Wonders, Civilization V has Machu Pichu and Cristo Redentor. Civilization IV also had the Moai, which could be considered part of South America.
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MasterDinadan wrote:
Plenty of stuff they can do for an expansion:
-New Wonders
-New Techs
-New Civs
-New Culture cards

They don't even really need to design new mechanics. There's so much room to expand on existing mechanics!
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Just to expand on what MasterDinadan said:
This game IS ripe for expansions and they did a good job designing it so that expansions could be added in without having to change any rules.
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-New Wonders

This is needed, with only 4 wonders from each age, they get kinda stale fast. An expansion that doubled these and then let the players select (randomly of course) the 4 to be used would be great.
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-New Techs

This is not needed. There are already plenty of techs for each level.
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-New Civs

This is needed. Civ with only 6 civs to choose from seems woefully inadequate. I expect to see alot of fan-made content popping up to fill this role pretty quick though.
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-New Culture cards

Meh, the culture deck seems pretty varied as it is, but I'm sure the designer could come up with a few more interesting uses for them.

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I'm pretty sure Civ the board game is based on the rights to Civ Rev, not Civ anything else (e.g. 5). So don't hold your breath for city states.
 
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The UN is not a Wonder of the World.

Period.
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Albireo wrote:
The UN is not a Wonder of the World.

Period.


I couldn't disagree more, I wonder what the hell it is doing in the world every time there is a news story about it.
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Albireo wrote:
The UN is not a Wonder of the World.

Period.


Didn't the UN defeat the Nazi forces of Charlie Chaplin and save the world?


That seems pretty WONDER-ful.
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Of course the UN is a wonder.

As in, "I wonder how something that costs so much can accomplish so little" or "I wonder how any organization can be taken seriously, when it elects Iran to sit on the Women's Rights Commission?"

Truly, the UN is the greatest absurdist wonder of the age.
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Well, the UN was in the first comptuer version of Civ if I recall, so blame Sid Meier for that one.
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Of course the UN is a wonder.

As in, "I wonder how something that costs so much can accomplish so little" or "I wonder how any organization can be taken seriously, when it elects Iran to sit on the Women's Rights Commission?"

Truly, the UN is the greatest absurdist wonder of the age.


Apparently, you've never heard of the TSA.
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The picture for Angkor Wat is focused far too much on the elephant rather than the actual building.
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Konwacht wrote:
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Where are the PYRAMIDS???



I like the wonders, really, but isn't it a bit strange that the pyramids aren't part of them? Especially since you can play the egyptians?


Humans didn't make them.
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I'm pretty sure Civ the board game is based on the rights to Civ Rev, not Civ anything else (e.g. 5). So don't hold your breath for city states.


Actually, I'm pretty sure all those wonder illustrations are direct copies of Civ 5 in-game artwork.
 
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It was never attacked. I'm not sure that's correct that it is the only one never conquered, I know Osakajo was never attacked as well.



If you're referring to the modern concrete reconstruction, then it would be true to say Osaka Castle was never attacked. However, earlier versions of Osaka Castle saw a lot of battle action during the Sengoku Period.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osaka_Castle
 
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Konwacht wrote:
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Where are the PYRAMIDS???



I like the wonders, really, but isn't it a bit strange that the pyramids aren't part of them? Especially since you can play the egyptians?


Humans didn't make them.



The "Alien Invasion" expansion pack will be coming later in 2011.
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ralpher wrote:
Himeji Samurai Castle? What the? Himejijo or Himeji castle should have explained enough... haven't been there, I would not call it a wonder of the world either.


I would call it a wonder of the world. However, I agree that simply Himeji Castle would have been more than enough -- why include the term "Samurai" for no reason?

Heck, let's change Sydney Opera House to Sydney Opera Singing House then...?

As for their choice in "World Wonders," I'm sure they chose these specific things to give a large selection and not overlap on similar powers too much. In the expansion, which is sure to happen (considering it is FFG and the success of this game already), I'm positive they will have more Wonders.
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