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Subject: Attacking from a forest rss

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Mike Cook
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Looking at the rules (base game) I see if you attack from a forest you roll 2 dice max. I didn't see anything about attacking someone in a forest.

However, when looking at a terrain summary file here at Geek, I see a 2 dice limitation with a 2 way arrow, suggesting that attacking a forest may also limit you to two dice.

Wondering which it is.

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Bill Bennett
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The summary is correct, and the base game rules say: "A unit battling an enemy unit on a forest hex or a unit on a forest hex battling out, will roll a maximum of 2 dice in close combat." (page 19)
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Mike Cook
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Ok thanks, I believe you.

However, my rules don't say that, so are there newer rules?

I'm using 2nd Edition, and the description for forests is on page 17, not 19.

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Caleb
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GMT has living rules posted on their site.
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Dom Rougier
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In general, this is how terrain works in Ancients - both parties are limited to two dice (with some exceptions, like infantry fighting downhill).

This is one of those "design for effect" decisions that makes Ancients what it is - you don't need to make a ton of special rules that a Hoplite Phalanx can't fight as well in close terrain as Auxilia, you just need to make it so that the Auxilia suffer less of a penalty (three dice down to two, rather than four/five dice to two) - that way Auxilia are at least equal to Heavies when fighting in terrain, which usually means that you're losing more of their capability with the more valuable Heavies.

(The extra move and move+battle into woods help as well, but the dice are the main thing).
 
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2nd edition was 1st edition with a few typos fixed.

3rd edition and later incorporated all the feedback and FAQ.
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