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Subject: PSC games seem to planning a re-release under a new name. rss

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Mike Smith
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Just seen on the back page of PSC Games Summer 2016 catalogue (inside their new release Victory or Death), amongst their future releases:
For King and Company - a remastering and upgrading of the old Martin Wallace classic, Struggle of Empires.

That means, I would think, plastic ships, soldiers, and forts. Wow! Instant buy if done right. Its my number one game.

The catalogue also has this:
Lincoln - an exciting and innovative American Civil War grand strategy game from the renowned MARTIN WALLACE giving a new, fresh approach to a popular subject.

Agog with interest (though it will have to be really good to beat A House Divided).
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Mike Smith
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The name is no improvement but I can live with that.
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The plastic ships, soldiers and forts is no improvement, and I cannot live with that.
gulp

Interested to know more about Lincoln though.
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Carlo Marinozzi
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Desiderata wrote:
The plastic ships, soldiers and forts is no improvement, and I cannot live with that.
gulp


I concur, give me pretty cardboard every time

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Ahh, you have killed the small child inside then!! Mine is still alive and kicking.... I already use the 18th Century-looking pieces from Risk, but they have no ships.

They could redo the map graphics in such a way as to make the area relationships more obvious also.

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Carlo Marinozzi
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Yes, the map is a bit confusing, I have to re-read the part about the borders and the mediterranean every time we play.

Now, if PSC redoes 1630 something, clearing up all the loose ends and strengthening the historical aspects, I would accept a little bit of plastic, not a lot, just to be clear

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Not played 1630 Something, though looked at the PnP files for it. The Thirty Years' War as a period is a fascination for me (check out my username), but with sadly few decent games...
 
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Carlo Marinozzi
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Yeah, I noticed the username


I share with you the interest and the feeling, too; some games have surfaced in recent years, both strategic and tactics, then again I'm still waiting for the definitive 30 years war and sun king era game.

1630 is a good game but a bit rough on the edges, there is a shortage of cards that imbalances the game with 5-6 plyers and the secret objectives mechanics falls apart after a couple of turns, Struggle of Empires is a better and more mature product, still I like the XVII century more...

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Its time, Carlo, that you and I bombarded Ed Beach with pleading, begging and flattering emails about the need for a completion to his estimable trilogy:
Here I Stand...
Virgin Queen...
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"Putative 30 Years' War game"....

Possible suggestions for title:
The Winter King
Mother Courage
The House of Austria
Bohemian Tragedy
 
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I had this conversation before on BG; alas mr. Beach is working on a video game project right now, our dream-game is over the hills and far away, I fear.

Besides, someone rightly pointed out that his games are more focused on a period than a war, albeit massive as the 30 year's one, so I modified my expectations, and now I'm begging mr. Beach about a twin set of games set in Europe during the years 1610-1660 and 1662-1715 (maybe titled "The Age of Louis XIV, first and second part?)

If I become a nuisance enough maybe he'll design the games, if only to shut me up whistle

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Mantuanwar wrote:
"Putative 30 Years' War game"....

Possible suggestions for title:
The Winter King
Mother Courage
The House of Austria
Bohemian Tragedy
Given the proclivity for armies getting lost and invading allies simply to eat I suggest: "Can't get there from here"
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I hope they don't forget to rewrite the rulebook
 
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Carlo M. wrote:


I had this conversation before on BG; alas mr. Beach is working on a video game project right now, our dream-game is over the hills and far away, I fear.

Besides, someone rightly pointed out that his games are more focused on a period than a war, albeit massive as the 30 year's one, so I modified my expectations, and now I'm begging mr. Beach about a twin set of games set in Europe during the years 1610-1660 and 1662-1715 (maybe titled "The Age of Louis XIV, first and second part?)

If I become a nuisance enough maybe he'll design the games, if only to shut me up whistle



Yeah, that "video game project" is Civilization VI. It's coming out 21 October.
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Carlo Marinozzi
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I take note of the date, I'll start harassing him on 24 october, just to leave him some respite
 
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