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Robert Stewart
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In a game at the weekend, as blue team leader, I opened with "The Crystal Maze: 4" - a reference which two of my three team-members got, correctly guessing "aztec", "lock", "time" and "cell", though they were also considering the civilian "tube". In the third round, I tried "Esuna: 2" only for all three of them to draw a complete blank.

If I had to guess which reference would be more likely to stump players, it would have been the early 90s TV game-show rather than the world's best-known JRPG...
 
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rmsgrey wrote:
In a game at the weekend, as blue team leader, I opened with "The Crystal Maze: 4" - a reference which two of my three team-members got, correctly guessing "aztec", "lock", "time" and "cell", though they were also considering the civilian "tube". In the third round, I tried "Esuna: 2" only for all three of them to draw a complete blank.

If I had to guess which reference would be more likely to stump players, it would have been the early 90s TV game-show rather than the world's best-known JRPG...


Both would have completely stumped me.
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"The Crystal Maze: 4" would have been an invalid clue in our games.
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"The Crystal Maze" and "Esuna" would have also stumped me.

While playing Codenames: Pictures at Dice Tower Con, I gave the clue "Crusoe 3" ... and it turned out that neither of my teammates was familiar with Robinson Crusoe: Adventures on the Cursed Island. They went off of general knowledge about Robinson Crusoe, but that didn't help them very much.

The pictures I was describing were a rain cloud over a book, a skull and crossbones poison bottle ... and I can't remember the third.
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My husband went for Jon Snow: 5 once and his team mates where clueless. It was a disaster. I didn't mind as I was on the other team.
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rmsgrey wrote:
rather than the world's best-known JRPG...

Shoot, I didn't even know what "JRPG" stood for.
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rmsgrey wrote:
In a game at the weekend, as blue team leader, I opened with "The Crystal Maze: 4" - a reference which two of my three team-members got, correctly guessing "aztec", "lock", "time" and "cell", though they were also considering the civilian "tube". In the third round, I tried "Esuna: 2" only for all three of them to draw a complete blank.

If I had to guess which reference would be more likely to stump players, it would have been the early 90s TV game-show rather than the world's best-known JRPG...


I don't know a JRPG called Esuna, so I assume you're talking about the spell in the Final Fantasy series, which I would probably struggle to make a connection with when playing a game. So I've got to break down to the base level of a game without knowing I'm meant to be thinking about that game because I'm in the middle of a meta- of another game. Plus how you pronounce Esuna which I've never heard officially spoken might not agree with my head canon for the word.

Whereas The Crystal Mage is the title most people will remember, it will be easier to break down from the top to think what was contained in The Crystal Mage. Then they can make quick connections with what is on the board.

Anyway, The Crystal Maze is 3 words not one, so I blame the spymaster who didn't call it out as an incorrect clue.
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JBH1 wrote:
rmsgrey wrote:
In a game at the weekend, as blue team leader, I opened with "The Crystal Maze: 4" - a reference which two of my three team-members got, correctly guessing "aztec", "lock", "time" and "cell", though they were also considering the civilian "tube". In the third round, I tried "Esuna: 2" only for all three of them to draw a complete blank.

If I had to guess which reference would be more likely to stump players, it would have been the early 90s TV game-show rather than the world's best-known JRPG...


I don't know a JRPG called Esuna, so I assume you're talking about the spell in the Final Fantasy series, which I would probably struggle to make a connection with when playing a game. So I've got to break down to the base level of a game without knowing I'm meant to be thinking about that game because I'm in the middle of a meta- of another game. Plus how you pronounce Esuna which I've never heard officially spoken might not agree with my head canon for the word.

Whereas The Crystal Mage is the title most people will remember, it will be easier to break down from the top to think what was contained in The Crystal Mage. Then they can make quick connections with what is on the board.

Anyway, The Crystal Maze is 3 words not one, so I blame the spymaster who didn't call it out as an incorrect clue.


We were playing the flexible rule allowing proper nouns.

The entire other team got the Final Fantasy connection for Esuna (which I also spelled) - in fact, one of them mentioning it let my team guess "spell" for their third guess (the first two were spent guessing the answers to the previous round's "Mannequin: 2" where they'd touched the civilian "suit" first rather than "model" or "arm") so I don't think it was that much of a stretch...

I forget what the other team's words were that game, but their third round hit "straw" which was our 8th word, so I could give "Venom: 1" to mop up "poison".

The assassin was "staff", so I had some bad moments when my team thought Final Fantasy characters might use staffs to cast spells - it's just as well that they whiffed on Mannequin the previous round.
 
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JBH1 wrote:
Anyway, The Crystal Maze is 3 words not one, so I blame the spymaster who didn't call it out as an incorrect clue.


It can be valid since it's a name. The section Proper Names on page 7 makes it an official variant.
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We don't play with proper names to keep the rules simpler. One word or ask the other spymaster about compound words. Works for us.
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We have decided that proper names means only names of people. No book titles tv shows or movie titles.
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DoveBar wrote:
We have decided that proper names means only names of people. No book titles tv shows or movie titles.

So, not "proper names" then. "People names" is the moniker you're looking for.
 
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DoveBar wrote:
We have decided that proper names means only names of people. No book titles tv shows or movie titles.


What about place names like New York or Los Angeles?
 
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rmsgrey wrote:
DoveBar wrote:
We have decided that proper names means only names of people. No book titles tv shows or movie titles.


What about place names like New York or Los Angeles?

Indeed. And what about Optimus Prime? Person or Thing? (choose your answer carefully...)
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DoveBar wrote:
We have decided that proper names means only names of people. No book titles tv shows or movie titles.


That's what we do, too. Sometimes we also allow place names.
 
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We will also allow place names. I think we would probably allow Optimus Prime or even the name of an animal e.g. a horse like War Admiral. The movie and book titles are too long and make the clues too easy.
 
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DoveBar wrote:
We will also allow place names. I think we would probably allow Optimus Prime or even the name of an animal e.g. a horse like War Admiral. The movie and book titles are too long and make the clues too easy.


They only make things easy when the films are ones people know - clue a book no-one else on your team has read, and things can fall apart very quickly.
 
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