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Now that FFG seem to be making app-assisted games, it struck me that this could be another one reworked as it was a beast to set up & play, plus had an overriding storyline of sorts.

What do you reckon?
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I doubt it. I don't see how it would help much.
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I don't know...seems like the apps in these games are all basically a GM replacement. Since there's no equivalent role in Android I'm not sure what function the app would perform. You could use it to simulate the board state but at that point you might as well make the jump from "app assisted" to "digital remake".
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    I think they'll wait until they've unloaded the 1600 copies they still have in the warehouse.

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corkysru wrote:
I doubt it. I don't see how it would help much.


LOL! Oh, that was funny. Tell another one!

Yeah, I think an app-enabled Android game is quite likely.
 
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ElAdoranSureshot wrote:
I don't know...seems like the apps in these games are all basically a GM replacement. Since there's no equivalent role in Android I'm not sure what function the app would perform. You could use it to simulate the board state but at that point you might as well make the jump from "app assisted" to "digital remake".


The role the app would play would be to know the details of the crime, conspiracy, motive, suspects, murder weapons, etc, all with a plausible story and without the players having to fiddle around with a billion different decks of cards to get it all to work properly (and without a player acting solely as a referee).
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ElAdoranSureshot wrote:
you might as well make the jump from "app assisted" to "digital remake".


    I think there's a place for a hybrid. Given Android's glorious presentation I think you could sell the physical aspect of the game but use an app as an assistant to vary the narratives of each of the main characters. The app would be dead simple to implement and the physical nature of the body of the game would make for a copy-protection mechanism.

    The game would lose a lot on a screen. But the ability to add new characters, new narrative, new encounters . . . that would be a boon to a game such as this.

    That said, I think FFG sees this title as done and won't develop for it anymore. It didn't sell well and its chief designer is gone. But I'd love to see the concept incorporated into other titles with a similar play concept to them.

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bleached_lizard wrote:
The role the app would play would be to know the details of the crime, conspiracy, motive, suspects, murder weapons, etc, all with a plausible story and without the players having to fiddle around with a billion different decks of cards to get it all to work properly (and without a player acting solely as a referee).


This is what I was thinking of.
 
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bleached_lizard wrote:
ElAdoranSureshot wrote:
I don't know...seems like the apps in these games are all basically a GM replacement. Since there's no equivalent role in Android I'm not sure what function the app would perform. You could use it to simulate the board state but at that point you might as well make the jump from "app assisted" to "digital remake".


The role the app would play would be to know the details of the crime, conspiracy, motive, suspects, murder weapons, etc, all with a plausible story and without the players having to fiddle around with a billion different decks of cards to get it all to work properly (and without a player acting solely as a referee).

Oh okay, so we're talking about another Clue-style remake of the game then.
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    I don't think you need that, and I don't think you even want it. I think having a game of Android end in a neatly-tied package is counterproductive considering its thematic concepts.

    That said an app could do that.

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Sagrilarus wrote:
ElAdoranSureshot wrote:
you might as well make the jump from "app assisted" to "digital remake".


    I think there's a place for a hybrid. Given Android's glorious presentation I think you could sell the physical aspect of the game but use an app as an assistant to vary the narratives of each of the main characters. The app would be dead simple to implement and the physical nature of the body of the game would make for a copy-protection mechanism.

    The game would lose a lot on a screen. But the ability to add new characters, new narrative, new encounters . . . that would be a boon to a game such as this.

    That said, I think FFG sees this title as done and won't develop for it anymore. It didn't sell well and its chief designer is gone. But I'd love to see the concept incorporated into other titles with a similar play concept to them.

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I think this sounds good in theory but I am less sure about the implementation. The narratives of the characters are bound up in the twilight decks and plot cards, so to get those on the app every player would have to add baggage and manage their hands from the device--including playing dark cards on another player's turn.
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Sagrilarus wrote:
I don't think you need that, and I don't think you even want it.

I definitely don't, for sure. But it's what springs to mind when someone talks about adding a referee to Android to keep track of hidden details about the murder and the conspiracy, implying that these are set in stone and need to be discovered rather than created by players over the course of the game.
 
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Sagrilarus wrote:


    That said, I think FFG sees this title as done and won't develop for it anymore. It didn't sell well and its chief designer is gone. But I'd love to see the concept incorporated into other titles with a similar play concept to them.



I wouldn't be so sure. Netrunner has brought a lot of attention back to the Android universe, and they've even created an Android universe "bible" to keep the backstory consistent across all games. Why would they do that if there weren't more Android games on the horizon? And with their current trend of releasing new editions of old games, Android seems like a good choice for a reboot (and an especially good choice for an app).
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ElAdoranSureshot wrote:
bleached_lizard wrote:
ElAdoranSureshot wrote:
I don't know...seems like the apps in these games are all basically a GM replacement. Since there's no equivalent role in Android I'm not sure what function the app would perform. You could use it to simulate the board state but at that point you might as well make the jump from "app assisted" to "digital remake".


The role the app would play would be to know the details of the crime, conspiracy, motive, suspects, murder weapons, etc, all with a plausible story and without the players having to fiddle around with a billion different decks of cards to get it all to work properly (and without a player acting solely as a referee).

Oh okay, so we're talking about another Clue-style remake of the game then.


No, the difference being that Clue is shit and a board game where you actually have to use your powers of deduction and reasoning to solve a crime would be amazing.
 
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Why would they do that if there weren't more Android games on the horizon?


    I think there are more Android games on the horizon. I just don't think Android is one of them. Here's hoping FFG proves me wrong. I think a version 2 of this game would be great, as I think its flaws are pretty fixable.

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I don't think it is out the question.

The fact that they are willing to release a second edition of Mansions of Madness is promising. This was a game that was very original, and was well received by many, but also had its flaws and suffered some harsh criticism by others. I think the same applies to Android.

If you had asked me two weeks ago if I thoughts a Mansions or an Android remake was more likely, I would have said Android. Mansions was already "fixed" to some extent by Call of the Wild. That news came out of nowhere for me!

I'm certain there is more Android on the horizon (and it's about time given the success of Netrunner) and I won't be surprised if it's a reboot of the original. But, I guess I won't be surprised if it isn't either.
 
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No app.

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2016/8/3/new-ange...



I know, not a new version of this game, either.
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4-6 players? Looks interesting but I'll wait to hear more about it. Glad to see they have not given up on the Android-world boardgames.
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I love their art choices on this line. Everything is so brown in their other games.
 
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