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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/08/republicans-think-trump-migh...

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It's flavorful and interesting at first, but will hurt like hell in the end.
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I doubt Trump will drop out of the race. The GOP may not like him, but his poll numbers are solid. However, if Trump does win in November, Congress will block him much the same way it did Obama.
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At this point I fully expect some kind of hail Mary pass. Trump seems to be spending more time attacking Republicans these days than beating up on the eminently beatable Hillary Clinton. So it wouldn't surprise me if a large number of Republican politicians just say "Screw you, Donald."

On one hand, "let's you and him fight" is always pleasurable. On the other, how can these two supremely awful people be our candidates? I still can't accept that there's not another option (not someone named Gary Johnson, either).
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Maybe it'll be Joe Biden.
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remorseless1 wrote:
his poll numbers are solid.

Solidly in the shitter!
 
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remorseless1 wrote:
I doubt Trump will drop out of the race. The GOP may not like him, but his poll numbers are solid.


His polling is probably far better than is being reported. Which is simultaneously funny and scary.
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Dropping out would be admitting defeat, and Trump's ego can't handle that.
Better to get slaughtered at the polls in November and then claim "the system is rigged by Crooked Hillary and Barack Hussein Obama, and that made me lose."
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Drew1365 wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
I doubt Trump will drop out of the race. The GOP may not like him, but his poll numbers are solid.


His polling is probably far better than is being reported. Which is simultaneously funny and scary.
Or not true.
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Vis-à-vis the polling:

Almost all the polls on individual states show Trump is solid in most of the battleground states and isn't as far behind Clinton as many might think. And here's the kicker about this year's election: Trump can (obviously) do just about anything and it doesn't do much to his polling. But one mistake by Clinton and it could sink her.
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All she has to do is let surrogates troll him into Twitter fights and stay out of the line of fire.
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At this point, I think Trumps whistle stop song should be GarryOwen Fifes and drums, because he is headed for a Massacre.
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Trump would probably drop out if the Republicans paid him enough money. I wonder how much it would take and who would step up to pay that bill. I bet $1 billion would do it pretty easily. Trump claims to be worth $10 billion or whatever but everyone knows that is a lie. Certainly it isn't legal to bribe a public official, but would it also be illegal to bribe someone to not run at all?
 
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remorseless1 wrote:
Vis-à-vis the polling:

Almost all the polls on individual states show Trump is solid in most of the battleground states and isn't as far behind Clinton as many might think. And here's the kicker about this year's election: Trump can (obviously) do just about anything and it doesn't do much to his polling. But one mistake by Clinton and it could sink her.

Trump is like the American brexit. People are so intent on convincing themselves it can't happen that they ignore all evidence to the contrary.
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Trump is like the American brexit. People are so intent on convincing themselves it can't happen that they ignore all evidence to the contrary.


True. We know what happened the last time Americans lied to themselves about the election.

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remorseless1 wrote:
Vis-à-vis the polling:

Almost all the polls on individual states show Trump is solid in most of the battleground states and isn't as far behind Clinton as many might think.

They tanked in the past week. Could be temporary, but currently in the dumps.

538 has the odds at Clinton 85% and Trump 15% if you just look at the polls. Their forecasting model has it closer to 65/35
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fightcitymayor wrote:
Dropping out would be admitting defeat, and Trump's ego can't handle that.
Better to get slaughtered at the polls in November and then claim "the system is rigged by Crooked Hillary and Barack Hussein Obama, and that made me lose."


I'm not so sure. It's true that Trump hates failure, but he's cut and run countless times in his life. He's already setting the stage with comments about the election being rigged -- that could be for if/when he loses but it equally could be for when he withdraws.

Trump could claim that the entire system has been unfair, from GOP leaders who demanded that he pledge to endorse the nominee and then wouldn't endorse him, to the liberal media that makes a big deal out of every racist thing he says or war crime policy he proposes, to the NFL for not backing up his lie about them writing him a letter complaining about the debate schedules.
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remorseless1 wrote:
But one mistake by Clinton and it could sink her.


And yet, like Trump, she seems quite bulletproof with her supporters. The woman is singularly responsible for the mess in Libya (which, by the way, we're currently involved in ongoing military action in case your lefty news outlets haven't been keeping you up to date because they're too busy covering for the Democrat warmonger in chief). She lies so much that she tells lies even when she doesn't need to. It's habitual. The Clinton Foundation looks very much like a "pay for State Department favors" set-up. Especially that Russian deal. How the Clinton Campaign made it look like Trump was the Putin favorite when Clinton has done Putin ACTUAL FAVORS requires a completely in-the-tank press corps. Oh, right. We've got that.

Clinton should be behind bars. She's still in the running. She's bulletproof. Her biggest mistake was screwing over the Bernie supporters. But the fix was in since she lost in 2008.

Democrat voters are beginning to understand that their party is little more than a criminal organization. So if anything is going to sink her, it's not her own actions -- which should have sunk her long ago -- it's that she represents everything that's wrong with the Washington establishment. And the view of the citizen class is increasingly "fuck them all with a 12 foot piece of rusty rebar."

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whac3 wrote:
remorseless1 wrote:
Vis-à-vis the polling:

Almost all the polls on individual states show Trump is solid in most of the battleground states and isn't as far behind Clinton as many might think. And here's the kicker about this year's election: Trump can (obviously) do just about anything and it doesn't do much to his polling. But one mistake by Clinton and it could sink her.

Trump is like the American brexit. People are so intent on convincing themselves it can't happen that they ignore all evidence to the contrary.


I think it can happen but the evidence is increasingly that it's very unlikely to.
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He needs to suddenly develop a health condition* that forces him to drop out and his VP pick to run.

*Note: Falling and mysteriously landing on a bullet would be an acceptable health condition.
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Drew1365 wrote:
Democrat voters are beginning to understand that their party is little more than a criminal organization. So if anything is going to sink her, it's not her own actions -- which should have sunk her long ago -- it's that she represents everything that's wrong with the Washington establishment. And the view of the citizen class is increasingly "fuck them all with a 12 foot piece of rusty rebar."

This is not the "understanding" of "Democrat" voters at all. Instead, it's the opinion of that part of the "citizen class" which is most solidly in the bag for Donald Trump. I know. I run into them all the time, and I listened well enough to be one of the few non-Trump supporters to predict he'd win the nomination.

What's holding you back, Drew? You know you want Trump. He's the only candidate threatening to bring a giant wrecking ball to Washington, smash its institutions, and erect a golden casino to America's greatness and glory. Trump is your man!

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He needs to suddenly develop a health condition* that forces him to drop out and his VP pick to run.


Not sure there is specifically a ruling for who gets to run if a Presidential candidate drops out. IE., I don't think it defaults to his VP, no?

(But now I'm curious - is there any precedent for this? Candidate dropping out AFTER being nominated, and that party still running someone in the election?)
 
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The party picks another candidate, either through executive committee or by reconvening the convention.

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XanderF wrote:
galad2003 wrote:
He needs to suddenly develop a health condition* that forces him to drop out and his VP pick to run.


Not sure there is specifically a ruling for who gets to run if a Presidential candidate drops out. IE., I don't think it defaults to his VP, no?

(But now I'm curious - is there any precedent for this? Candidate dropping out AFTER being nominated, and that party still running someone in the election?)

The RNC has rules that would cover this (rule 9). If the Pres or VP candiate drops out for any reason they can either reconvene a convention or the RNC can just fill the vacancy itself.
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