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Would this be the original Fall of Rome from 1973?
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Also from 1973, this Donald Featherstone book:





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Wargamers: antisocial misanthrope misfits since 1973. laugh
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leroy43 wrote:
Wargamers: antisocial misanthrope misfits since 1973. laugh

Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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leroy43 wrote:
Wargamers: antisocial misanthrope misfits since 1973. laugh

Only if you count games designed for solo play -- I am sure we can hit 1963, at least, with people who were solo'ing two-player designs.

Or even......

Solo Kriegspiel anyone??? ;-)
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The Maverick wrote:
leroy43 wrote:
Wargamers: antisocial misanthrope misfits since 1973. laugh

Only if you count games designed for solo play -- I am sure we can hit 1963, at least, with people who were solo'ing two-player designs.

Or even......

Solo Kriegspiel anyone??? ;-)


It's not even good for two players ...

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http://boardgamegeek.com/boardgamefamily/5666/solitaire-game...

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Result : 1973 Fall of Rome and also from 1973 the aptly named Solo-Wargaming
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Wonder if there has ever been a solo wargamers convention?
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xmfcnrx wrote:

Wonder if there has ever been a solo wargamers convention?


Yes, there was. Only one person attended.
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xmfcnrx wrote:

Wonder if there has ever been a solo wargamers convention?


I'm not sure what it says about me, but I'd be quite interested in something like this. I love solo wargames! Some of them are hard enough to learn that finding others that have played them and can help me learn them better sounds fun. As it is, I'm usually on my own trying to figure them out.
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Another, probably seldom-used way to enjoy solitaire wargames is cooperative play.
Players often say one chief reason they prefer gaming with a live human across the table is the camaraderie and/or competition, the social aspect, etc.
And yet...
Think of how much silence there tends to be when one player on a wargame is trying to think and move. Think of all the times you might have had a stimulating discussion about the board situation and possible alternative moves -- but you couldn't because you had to maintain secrecy and fog-of-war in a 2-player game.
Co-op solitaire could make a game more social than 2-player! And one has a buddy available to help interpret rules.
I hope people will try more of this, either FTF or remotely with VASSAL, Tabletop Simulator, or some other computer aid and live voice chat.

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Think of all the times you might have had a stimulating discussion about the board situation and possible alternative moves -- but you couldn't because you had to maintain secrecy and fog-of-war in a 2-player game.


Huh ? That's the time I pick up that low infantry block and start contemplating out loud how to slice through my opponent's line with my huge panzer army. There hasn't been a wargame design yet that managed to shut me up - I just love to bs and going on unrelated tangents/rants whistle
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Broadsword56 wrote:
Another, probably seldom-used way to enjoy solitaire wargames is cooperative play.


Ambush! coop (2 players, 4 soldiers each) are some of my favorite wargame memories. Great way to play a great game. Also it speeds up play a lot.
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Solo gaming was the first "Variant"... nyuck, nyuck!
Who ever got the rules right?
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Or, have someone play the game, and you coach/mentor them through it.
I did this with B17 - 'Queen of the Skies', the guy seemed to have a good time. I had him name the crew, I filled in the paperwork and then walked/talked him through it ('think about conserving your ammo, you still have the target to get to', and ' oh man, that Dave, is he that good a shot in real life?').

So I agree with G.w., solo games played co-op can be a lot of fun. My son and I struggle through Warfighter (because I'm old and slow!)
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Still have this book, too fond a memory to let it go ... sauron
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Von Tempsky wrote:
Or, have someone play the game, and you coach/mentor them through it.


I did this with Fields of Fire. Brought it to a convention and set it up on a table. Two guys showed up and wanted to play, one at at time, and I guided and helped out a bit playing at least a few turns, but I think at least one of them completed a full mission.

It would seriously work to have some kind of solitaire convention, with a few in charge of moving between tables to help out, and with a focus on coop so there would not have to be players actually playing alone much.
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pelni wrote:

It would seriously work to have some kind of solitaire convention, with a few in charge of moving between tables to help out, and with a focus on coop so there would not have to be players actually playing alone much.


I'm not so sure a solo-convention would work. My experience with solo wargamers is - not surprisingly - that they *like* to play solo in the comfort of their own home. What I mean is that this is the scenario I've encountered time and time again :

1)"I play wargames solo because there's no-one around to play with"
2) mention an opportunity to play FTF requiring a most basic effort on the part of the solo-wargamer
3) made-up excuses as to why 2) isn't possible for them.

My take on it is that there's a (forum) social stigma against flat-out stating "I play solo because I don't like other people messing up my enjoyment when I play my game" - scared of getting tagged anti-social or such, while there's nothing wrong with enjoying a private hobby in solitude.

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Mallet wrote:
The Maverick wrote:
leroy43 wrote:
Wargamers: antisocial misanthrope misfits since 1973. laugh

Only if you count games designed for solo play -- I am sure we can hit 1963, at least, with people who were solo'ing two-player designs.

Or even......

Solo Kriegspiel anyone??? ;-)


It's not even good for two players ...

yuk

Blasphemer.
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I think I see an opportunity to start S.P.A.T.Con (Single Players Alone Together -- with apologies to Nick Hornby)
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Westie wrote:
xmfcnrx wrote:

Wonder if there has ever been a solo wargamers convention?


Yes, there was. Only one person attended.


And I had a grand time there as well.
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leroy43 wrote:
Wargamers: antisocial misanthrope misfits since 1973. laugh


(waving cane wildly) "Now get off my lawn you damn kids".
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Von Tempsky wrote:
I did this with B17 - 'Queen of the Skies', the guy seemed to have a good time.

At WBC this year there were 78 people at tables of 6 playing B-17: Queen of the Skies together for 9 hours.

Go figure!
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