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Subject: What are the most prominent 'marmite' games? rss

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Simon Maynard
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By that I mean of course which highly rated games seem to also draw the most scathing reviews and criticisms? Why do some games seem to split the gaming community more than others?

Having recently read several reviews of Kingdom Builder and tried the app, I was quite surprised at the contrasting views different gamers have taken on this game. I actually quite like it.

Of course, every game has its detractors. No game is universally adored. But some games definitely seem to inspire a more 'love it or hate it' response. Are there other games out there that you would put in this category? Why do you think that some games seem to inspire such contrasting and diametrically opposite responses?
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Arkham Horror is another example for mixed responses.
There are a lot of people who despise it for being fiddly, for its plethora of rules or for whatever other reasons.

But that is true for most games I think. For any game you can think of there will be some gamers who don't like it, because of its theme, its mechanic, its graphics, or whatnot.
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Back in the day I recall Settlers of Catan being such a game. Many wondered what all the fuss was about.
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Mr. Trucker?
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Terra Mystica Some claim it is the best thing ever, some say it is tedium in a box.
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Archipelago. You either love it or hate it. I haven't seen anybody say that it's okay.

Dominion has a strong following and also a large amount of people who find it soulless and boring.
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Chess - many on BGG dislike abstracts and any game which lots of people us played as children is liekly to be loved or hated depending on our experience.
Cards Against Humanity - possibly the most popularised opinions on a game
The Resistance - some people really hate anything like this

Probably not much liked on BGG but overall these are probably marmite games:
Monopoly
Scrabble
Trivial Pursuit (or most trivia games)

As an aside do people outside the UK know about the marmite thing?
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zabdiel wrote:


As an aside do people outside the UK know about the marmite thing?


I do know, but for those who don't there is Wikipedia.

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Small World, I think it's the most boring game ever. Regardless of race or abilities you pretty much do the same thing over and over. Yet some people love it.
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Mondkalb123 wrote:
But that is true for most games I think. For any game you can think of there will be some gamers who don't like it, because of its theme, its mechanic, its graphics, or whatnot.

Yes, but surely some games seem to get evoke more polarised opinions with not much middle ground. Whereas others will get a lot of 'meh' or 'take it or leave it' responses.
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Perhaps also Mysterium and Dixit?

Cosmic Encounter for sure
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Pandemic Legacy: Season 1 - so many people hate the legacy format
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I'm fairly sure judging by people's comment on BGG that Agricola falls into your category... '7 ranked game on BGG, but some people wouldn't touch with a barge pole
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Check out Clockwork Wars. It's a pretty darn good dudes on a hex map Euro'ish steampunk game. Quick and fun.
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pchilton2002 wrote:
Pandemic Legacy: Season 1 - so many people hate the legacy format

You could go over the stats for each game. Just quick checking I don't see any big blips for Agricola or Terra Mystica. Pandemic Legacy, however, does have a fair number of haters.

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Pathfinder Adventure Card Game

I enjoy it, and so do many others; after all, it does have 4 base sets now. If I step away from my personal tastes, it is really only a good, not a great, game. Nevertheless, it inspires so much hate in the forums--much more than other mediocre or limited niche games, it seems.

I am always particularly puzzled in the recommendations forum when someone blasts it for being a money sink and then turns around to recommend an LCG.
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pchilton2002 wrote:
Pandemic Legacy: Season 1 - so many people hate the legacy format

I don't think it's just the legacy format. I'm ambivalent on legacy games at this point, but I'm certainly not reflexively against them. I didn't like Pandemic: Legacy because the plot was just about the most hackneyed, trite, cliched piece of geek-fanservice toss it would be possible to come up with,
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(really? ... those? ... and they're responsible? ...)
to the point where at least half of our playgroup correctly called the direction in which it would go in advance several times over. Had that structure appeared in a movie, a TV series, a book, or a video game it would rightly have been criticized as such, but just because "nobody's done that in a boardgame before" it not only gets a pass, it somehow gets praised to the heavens. That was my (and several others') main objection.

The game itself was OK, but then Pandemic's a very decent game to start with.
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JohnBandettini wrote:
Small World, I think it's the most boring game ever. Regardless of race or abilities you pretty much do the same thing over and over. Yet some people love it.


How dare you, good sir! It's one of the most fun games ever!


(Yes, I was basically just proving the marmite thing for this game)
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For your consideration:

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Some people drop 1 ratings on games for reasons outside of the game itself, usually as a reaction to something they don't agree with. There are many reasons why this may happen, and unfortunately it devalues the rating of a game.

I devised a method to try to identify some of these games: a ratio between the 1 ratings against the count of the other negative ratings (2, 3 and 4), filtered down to games with an average rating greater than 5 and at least 1000 ratings.


https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/211029/rating-analysis-50...

Edit: also see this:

[RATING ANALYSIS] The 50 MOST DIVISIVE games (Dec 2014)
https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/183213/rating-analysis-50...

He needs to update this one. I'd bet there are a number of recent games that would be high on an updated list.
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Hanabi?
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Well, you learn something new every day...

Pete (just added "marmite" to his vocabulary, but suspects he can only use it with British folks)
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plezercruz wrote:
Well, you learn something new every day...

Pete (just added "marmite" to his vocabulary, but suspects he can only use it with British folks)


In your vocabulary is definitely the best way to use marmite
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Talisman (Revised 4th Edition) and Tales of the Arabian Nights divide people massively on here.

Some think they're a fun romp. And others are dullards.
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Jorath wrote:


In your vocabulary is definitely the best way to use marmite


Too far!

You can insult my favourite boardgames, set fire to my shoes, have sex with random members of my family.

But being mean about marmite is crossing a line, man.
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plezercruz wrote:
Well, you learn something new every day...

Pete (just added "marmite" to his vocabulary, but suspects he can only use it with British folks)


Or Aussies
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bortmonkey wrote:
plezercruz wrote:
Well, you learn something new every day...

Pete (just added "marmite" to his vocabulary, but suspects he can only use it with British folks)


Or Aussies


Although most will tell you there's a better alternative.
 
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