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CARL SKUTSCH
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Check out Clockwork Wars. It's a pretty darn good dudes on a hex map Euro'ish steampunk game. Quick and fun.
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I think first offense gets a firm warning.

Second offense, the old nun ruler rap on the fingers.

Third offense...

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I was blessed with a group that really takes care of their stuff. It's the bloody dog...

Kind of a side point though I bought a game (Thurn and Taxis) off a friend who claimed they played it once and didn't like it. Cool, near mint copy, just need to pay for shipping was the deal!

There were
- missing houses (I had to contact the publisher to get more)
- 3 bonus tokens were peeling. We had to pull a couple layers off and re-glue them
- the cards have seen better days.

Maybe he got it used but I think he just treats his games like crap. I believe he said later the game was left in his van with the windows down and it rained.
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Doug Poskitt
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skutsch wrote:
I think first offense gets a firm warning.

Second offense, the old nun ruler rap on the fingers.

Third offense...



And if they still insist on offending after the third response ... blow them away. (They have shown themselves to be haunted recidivists who simply do not deserve to be anywhere near a gaming table) shake devil
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Doug Poskitt
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On a serious note, I belong to that group who are very fastidious as regards the care of a game's components. Card sleeves are a must and, after all, careful handling of cards and map tiles isn't that hard to do (and is respectful to the actual owner of the game).
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dougposkitt wrote:
On a serious note, I belong to that group who are very fastidious as regards the care of a game's components. Card sleeves are a must and, after all, careful handling of cards and map tiles isn't that hard to do (and is respectful to the actual owner of the game).


I fully agree with with the above and most of the games in our group also have all components protected where possible. However I don't tend to re-invite players that 'abuse' or don't respect the game components they're playing with. Especially if it's not their game to start with!
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I am honestly THE worst offender with this. I have twice spilled beer on my copies of Ascension. But that's kind of key right there, they're my games.

However, that said, I am instituting a rule about food. If wings are purchased they are eaten in the kitchen, at the table, over a plate.

Last week I had wing sauce on multiple pages of my Mysterium rulebook, on my kitchen table, on my counters, and down the side of my fridge. I'm 95% sure the person who created the mess in my kitchen is the same as the person who got sauce on my rulebook. I understand that when food is present at game night accidents will happen, but that's a bit beyond the pale.

EDIT: Just for clarification, I know exactly who got sauce on my rulebook.
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How about a demerit?

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Do whatever you want with your own games, but if you damage someone else's game, you replace it. Period. No dickering over whether the damage was "bad enough." I don't care if it's OOP and costs $500. You replace it. Maybe next time you will be more careful.
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How about a demerit?

I'd prefer to send them to Detention with Dolores.
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morris9597 wrote:
Last week I had wing sauce on multiple pages of my Mysterium rulebook, on my kitchen table, on my counters, and down the side of my fridge. I'm 95% sure the person who created the mess in my kitchen is the same as the person who got sauce on my rulebook. I understand that when food is present at game night accidents will happen, but that's a bit beyond the pale.


Were that to happen to me, I would have a meltdown that would make Sheldon Cooper look rational. gulp
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"Minor" damage to something that is related to their favorite hobby.

Such as a paint or upholstery scratch on a car being restored, pencil doodles on a favorite comic book, a bend in a vinyl record, etc.

It is, after all, the same thing and does not interfere with the usability of their hobby items, right?
 
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dougposkitt wrote:
morris9597 wrote:
Last week I had wing sauce on multiple pages of my Mysterium rulebook, on my kitchen table, on my counters, and down the side of my fridge. I'm 95% sure the person who created the mess in my kitchen is the same as the person who got sauce on my rulebook. I understand that when food is present at game night accidents will happen, but that's a bit beyond the pale.


Were that to happen to me, I would have a meltdown that would make Sheldon Cooper look rational. gulp


Well I didn't notice the kitchen mess until the next day when I was cleaning up. And if I'm being honest, It didn't take but maybe an extra minutes longer than usual. It's more the principle of the thing.
 
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I think in most cases, components are easily replaceable. In every instance where I received a game with a missing component, or I had the unfortunate experience of myself or someone else ruining a game component, the producer was more than happy to send me a replacement.

If the game is out of print, then, I would look at other solutions for replacement. For instance, in the Thrifters guild on here, there's a section for missing/replacement pieces, so it's possible I could get the piece from them.

If that doesn't work, maybe, if it's a card, for instance, print out a replacement, and sleeve the cards.

I understand some people are caught up in having a perfect, unscratched copy of their game, and honestly, those people need to understand the risks that could present themselves if they bring the game out to play.

Third offense should be a severe "Hey, shit happens dude, no worries, I'm sure the producer will replace it."
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They are forced to go SIMless without assistance in the Shadowrun dimension you undoubtedly have set up in a closet.

That or they have to send over money to repay for replacements if they ruin (tear/rip/spill over) more than one card/model or whatever.
'But you can't get spares pieces in this country.'
'I know! So you pay for a new copy of the game, and you get to keep this version!'

Much like people scratching a guitar, or pushing a pick up in to the body, if someone ruins your games in a big way then they should pay to make up for it.
 
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skutsch wrote:
Third offense...



Harsh but fair.

But what if it's a woman who bent the card?

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agentkuo wrote:
I think in most cases, components are easily replaceable. In every instance where I received a game with a missing component, or I had the unfortunate experience of myself or someone else ruining a game component, the producer was more than happy to send me a replacement.

If the game is out of print, then, I would look at other solutions for replacement. For instance, in the Thrifters guild on here, there's a section for missing/replacement pieces, so it's possible I could get the piece from them.

If that doesn't work, maybe, if it's a card, for instance, print out a replacement, and sleeve the cards.

I understand some people are caught up in having a perfect, unscratched copy of their game, and honestly, those people need to understand the risks that could present themselves if they bring the game out to play.

Third offense should be a severe "Hey, shit happens dude, no worries, I'm sure the producer will replace it."


I get what you're saying, Carl, but I disagree.

Why should I need to take my time and make the effort to replace game components/cards because some inconsiderate jackass messed them up in the first place? I take care of my stuff (games, books, cars, home, etc.), I expect some level of consideration in return.

If I were to damage a fellow gamers components, it is ON ME to 1) Apologize, and 2) replace the damaged item or otherwise make it right. Since I don't want to do all that, I'm careful with other people's things.

I'm posted this experience before: Was playing D&D. Gamer friend's son stained one of my rulebooks. His father offered to replace it...I said "no, worries, it happens." Two sessions later the kid messes up another one of my books. This time I insist on a replacement. Guess what? His dad kept him away from my books ever since. See? First time no consequence led to a repeat offense. Once dad had to buy me a new book...no more problems. I don't need a "perfect, unscratched copy," but I sure as hell don't want red slurpy stains in my books (nor my games).
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First of all there are no drinks (even water) or snacks when playing games. I will vet a new gamers guests out on an easy/cheap/replaceable game like Skip-Bo (BTW I hate Skip-Bo). More often it's Love Letter or or Coup (both of which are sleeved). If they use care we'll move on to something more complicated.
 
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Jeremiah Cook
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You do know I was kidding about the past your prime poll, right?

Right???
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skutsch wrote:
I think first offense gets a firm warning.

Second offense, the old nun ruler rap on the fingers.

Third offense...



That's too lenient.

1st offense is new game

2nd is new game and banishment from group.
 
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skutsch wrote:
I think first offense gets a firm warning.

Second offense, the old nun ruler rap on the fingers.

Third offense...



Why not just sentence them to 24 hours straight of the SIMS?
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Voice of Reason wrote:
agentkuo wrote:
I think in most cases, components are easily replaceable. In every instance where I received a game with a missing component, or I had the unfortunate experience of myself or someone else ruining a game component, the producer was more than happy to send me a replacement.

If the game is out of print, then, I would look at other solutions for replacement. For instance, in the Thrifters guild on here, there's a section for missing/replacement pieces, so it's possible I could get the piece from them.

If that doesn't work, maybe, if it's a card, for instance, print out a replacement, and sleeve the cards.

I understand some people are caught up in having a perfect, unscratched copy of their game, and honestly, those people need to understand the risks that could present themselves if they bring the game out to play.

Third offense should be a severe "Hey, shit happens dude, no worries, I'm sure the producer will replace it."


I get what you're saying, Carl, but I disagree.

Why should I need to take my time and make the effort to replace game components/cards because some inconsiderate jackass messed them up in the first place? I take care of my stuff (games, books, cars, home, etc.), I expect some level of consideration in return.

Yet you play games with inconsiderate jackasses? I don't follow your logic. Most of the time, unless you're playing with non-gamers, who don't know better, it's an accident that causes damage. But what you're saying is, you just bring out games with total jackasses, and complain when they ruin your stuff? Still seems like you're responsible.

I would counter your argument with...it's not that big of a deal to contact the publisher, but if it is to you, then make them do it?

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If I were to damage a fellow gamers components, it is ON ME to 1) Apologize, and 2) replace the damaged item or otherwise make it right. Since I don't want to do all that, I'm careful with other people's things.

Yes, those are your beliefs about the matter, but not everyone is going to feel the same way, whether you're right or wrong. I think the most important thing to do in this situation is let them understand your point of view, and if they understand, great, if they don't, you might want to reconsider playing games with them.
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skutsch wrote:


A friend has a relatively similar device.



It's a rat guillotine, used when a lab is doing drug tests, so they can't "sacrifice" the rat using a drug.

So, when my friend got her PhD, she was given one as a present. (The lab had somehow gotten an extra.)

I asked her whether she was going to put it in her bathroom, which puzzled her greatly. "Put the seat down, or else!"
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Let them play with DICE !
 
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Tar and feather them. Depending on their background, then also kneecap them.
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