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The Obama administration has proposed a new rule that would prevent states from defunding Planned Parenthood or any other family planning provider for political reasons.

The new rule, which the Department of Health and Human Services proposed last week, says that states cannot withhold Title X federal family planning money from certain recipients for any reason other than the provider’s “ability to deliver services to program beneficiaries in an effective manner.” That means states can no longer vote to defund Planned Parenthood because some of its clinics offer abortion services.

“This will make a real difference in so many people’s lives,” said Cecile Richards, president of Planned Parenthood. “Thanks to the Obama administration, women will still be able to access the birth control they need to plan their families, and the cancer screenings they need to stay healthy.”

The Title X program provides basic preventive health care and family planning services for 4 million low-income Americans. About 85 percent of patients who use Title X have incomes below $23,500. Planned Parenthood serves about a third of those patients, using the $70 million a year it receives in Title X grants to subsidize contraceptives and cancer and sexually transmitted infection screenings for people who can’t afford them. Title X does not allow any money to be used to pay for abortions for any reason.

Still, politicians in 11 states have voted to block public funds from Planned Parenthood because its services include abortion. Republicans in Congress are also on a mission to defund the family planning provider, citing a series of debunked undercover videos produced by anti-abortion activists that purport to show Planned Parenthood selling fetal body parts.

Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.), a member of the House select committee that’s investigating the video’s claims, called the Obama administration’s new rule to protect Planned Parenthood a “stunt.”

“We must use the full force of Congress and the grassroots strength of the national pro-life movement to defeat this absurd rule and prevent the Obama Administration from acting unilaterally to carry out political favors and prop up a scandal-ridden abortion provider,” she said in a statement.

The political problem for Republicans right now in their endeavor to demonize and defund Planned Parenthood is that family planning providers are on the front lines in the fight against Zika, the rapidly spreading virus that causes severe birth defects. The Centers for Disease Control said the “primary strategy” to reduce Zika-related pregnancy complications should be to help women avoid or delay pregnancy through family planning and birth control, and Planned Parenthood is already distributing Zika prevention kits and education in neighborhoods where the virus is spreading. But some of the most high-risk states for the mosquito-borne and sexually transmitted virus ― Florida, Louisiana and Texas ― have voted to block funds to Planned Parenthood. About 84 pregnant women in Florida are currently infected with Zika, officials have said.

If the new Title X rule becomes permanent after a 30-day public comment period, which is likely, those states will be forced to back down from the fight against the nation’s largest family planning provider.

“This rule makes it clear that politicians cannot ignore the law as they pursue their agenda to stop women from getting the care they need,” Richards said.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/obama-planned-parenthood...
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This is the kind of thing that will rally support around Trump in red states.
 
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slatersteven wrote:
This is the kind of thing that will rally support around Trump in red states.


Who cares? The problem with the distilled purity purges the Reps have undergone is thst as their position becomes more entrenched it becomes less cost effective to provide outreach. It gets to the point where it is easier to simply say 'fuck 'em'.

It's a shame too, because a lot of red state people would benefit from more cooperstion. It's in corporate interests to keep regs loose and the populace hostile because then the natural resources (which many red states have) can be exploited hard.
 
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Shadrach wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
This is the kind of thing that will rally support around Trump in red states.


Who cares? The problem with the distilled purity purges the Reps have undergone is thst as their position becomes more entrenched it becomes less cost effective to provide outreach. It gets to the point where it is easier to simply say 'fuck 'em'.

It's a shame too, because a lot of red state people would benefit from more cooperstion. It's in corporate interests to keep regs loose and the populace hostile because then the natural resources (which many red states have) can be exploited hard.
Those who do not want to see Trump elected should.

States rights are a big issue, the fact that this is about states getting federal money (and thus fuck all to do with their rights) is irrelevant. I wouild hope American voters are wise enough to see that, I do not think they are.
 
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slatersteven wrote:
This is the kind of thing that will rally support around Trump in red states.


All the conservatives will come out against it, making them look anti-women's right, women's health care, low income health care, and so on. That could swing female support away from Trump.

I guess he has some female supporters?

 
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Donald wrote:
That means states can no longer vote to defund Planned Parenthood because some of its clinics offer abortion services.


Why are states funding them in the first place ? It's already a political issue and if they fund this group, they need to equally fund their opposition groups.
 
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jeremycobert wrote:
Donald wrote:
That means states can no longer vote to defund Planned Parenthood because some of its clinics offer abortion services.


Why are states funding them in the first place ? It's already a political issue and if they fund this group, they need to equally fund their opposition groups.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_X
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jeremycobert wrote:
Donald wrote:
That means states can no longer vote to defund Planned Parenthood because some of its clinics offer abortion services.


Why are states funding them in the first place ? It's already a political issue and if they fund this group, they need to equally fund their opposition groups.
So if a government provides funding to a women's health clinic that provides real services to people, they have to fund a bunch of ass-backwards organizations that opposes that and provides no real service to communities?

The government funds vaccines, must they also fund anti-vaxers?

The government funds the military, do you want them to fund anti-war protesters?

The government funds rehab centers, are they supposed to fund meth dealers?

Everything is a political issue. Planned Parenthood provides vital services to the communities they're in, their opposition groups don't. Don't be an idiot.
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slatersteven wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
This is the kind of thing that will rally support around Trump in red states.


Who cares? The problem with the distilled purity purges the Reps have undergone is thst as their position becomes more entrenched it becomes less cost effective to provide outreach. It gets to the point where it is easier to simply say 'fuck 'em'.

It's a shame too, because a lot of red state people would benefit from more cooperstion. It's in corporate interests to keep regs loose and the populace hostile because then the natural resources (which many red states have) can be exploited hard.
Those who do not want to see Trump elected should.

States rights are a big issue, the fact that this is about states getting federal money (and thus fuck all to do with their rights) is irrelevant. I wouild hope American voters are wise enough to see that, I do not think they are.


State's rights aren't really that big an issue, except to people with confederate flag bumper stickers.
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Newsflash!

Federal money comes with strings.
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Why do we need planned parenthood to provide birth control? If everyone is required to have insurance, insurance is required to provide free birth control than this part of it should be a non issue.
 
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galad2003 wrote:
Why do we need planned parenthood to provide birth control?


Look beyond one issue if you can.

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Planned Parenthood health centers around the country offer you the health care you need. Our caring and knowledgeable staff provide a wide range of services. Many health centers provide general health care.

General health care services vary by location. They may include

anemia testing
cholesterol screening
diabetes screening
physical exams, including for employment and sports
flu vaccines
help with quitting smoking
high blood pressure screening
tetanus vaccines
thyroid screening


The caring staff at your local Planned Parenthood health center can talk with you about STDs and help you get any testing or treatment you may need

The heart of Planned Parenthood is in the local community. Our 57 unique, locally governed affiliates nationwide operate approximately 650 health centers, which reflect the diverse needs of their communities.

These health centers provide a wide range of safe, reliable health care — and the majority is preventive, primary care, which helps prevent unintended pregnancies through contraception, reduce the spread of sexually transmitted infections through testing and treatment, and screen for cervical and other cancers.
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galad2003 wrote:
Why do we need planned parenthood to provide birth control? If everyone is required to have insurance, insurance is required to provide free birth control than this part of it should be a non issue.


Except for institutions and employers that get a waiver due their beliefs... see Hobby Lobby vs. Burwell.
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windsagio wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
This is the kind of thing that will rally support around Trump in red states.


Who cares? The problem with the distilled purity purges the Reps have undergone is thst as their position becomes more entrenched it becomes less cost effective to provide outreach. It gets to the point where it is easier to simply say 'fuck 'em'.

It's a shame too, because a lot of red state people would benefit from more cooperstion. It's in corporate interests to keep regs loose and the populace hostile because then the natural resources (which many red states have) can be exploited hard.
Those who do not want to see Trump elected should.

States rights are a big issue, the fact that this is about states getting federal money (and thus fuck all to do with their rights) is irrelevant. I wouild hope American voters are wise enough to see that, I do not think they are.


State's rights aren't really that big an issue, except to people with confederate flag bumper stickers.
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