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John Reynolds
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Transporting from smuggler's den to Kemplar, you get a bounty when entering smuggler's den, and therefore can't use the entrance to kemplar to complete the mission.

Is this how it's supposed to work? Seems like the illegal missions are super difficult in that case.

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Ira Fay
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That particular one is certainly hard. You only get the bounty if you use the planetary gate at smugglers' den, so ghost stalker can help. Tier 3 ships like Long Haul and Cold Phoenix can help too. Another idea is that going through planetary shields isn't impossible, especially if you intend to upgrade your ship soon so the damage doesn't matter as much. Expected damage is 3.75 per attempt, so you can likely get through in most cases if you have an otherwise healthy ship and a little extra movement. Finally, note that Kemplar is a reasonably popular place to complete a mission, so you might be able to get multiple missions there at the same time (using the M-comp in the expansion or house rules for the base game), which can make running through the shields worth it.
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There are 6 mission types and 6 ships in each tier. Not a coincidence. If you want to be able to do smuggler missions, you're better off picking the smuggling ship, Ghoststalker, which is good at bypassing planetary shields. The other outlaw ships can take a crack at it as well. Cold Phoenix's (Thief) Wormhole Ripper as mentioned works and Easy Tiger's (Assassin) Tac-X can reroll a planetary shield punch-through attempt.

Also very worth noting for that particular mission is that Smuggler's Den (buy anything) to Kemplar II (sell holo) is a trade route unto itself. Very lucrative if everything works out.

Edit: I'm not sure that Long Haul's shuttle can actually help with the final parts of Smuggler missions since there's a special trigger "when you enter a planet" that decides if you succeed or not.
 
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Derek Dyer
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"Shuttle Bay: Move your shuttle up to 4 spaces from your ship. Then perform one of these Actions: Missions (Draw, Objectives, or Complete)."

Also keep in mind that Long Haul's shuttle, is your original Tier 1 ship.

So thematically and mechanically there should be no problem completing these missions with your shuttle.
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I guess I'd rule it that way mechanically. I guess I was hung up that most "Objectives" involve interacting with the mission points on the map, where the "Sneak" part of smuggler missions don't.

Thematically though, the shuttle is in some sense not considered "you" since you can't incur a bounty with it and it's always considered innocent. How would you rule it if you used the shuttle to "Sneak" for a Smuggler mission and failed, which would normally give you a bounty. Would you not gain a bounty in that case, or is the mission more connected to your main ship?
 
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Derek Dyer
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How would you rule it if you used the shuttle to "Sneak" for a Smuggler mission and failed, which would normally give you a bounty.
Mechanics say you gain a bounty so you do. It's only ever important to follow mechanics, rationalizing it with flavor text after the fact is simple.

In this case someone identified your shuttle, and then saw you colluding with them, so you acquired a bounty for "aiding and abetting a criminal".
 
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