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Subject: Oh, COME ON! AKA Clinton Privilege. rss

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Immunity deals for two top Hillary Clinton aides included a side arrangement obliging the FBI to destroy their laptops after reviewing the devices, House Judiciary Committee sources told Fox News on Monday.

Sources said the arrangement with former Clinton chief of staff Cheryl Mills and ex-campaign staffer Heather Samuelson also limited the search to no later than Jan. 31, 2015. This meant investigators could not review documents for the period after the email server became public -- in turn preventing the bureau from discovering if there was any evidence of obstruction of justice, sources said.

The Republican-led House Judiciary Committee fired off a letter Monday to Attorney General Loretta Lynch asking why the DOJ and FBI agreed to the restrictive terms, including that the FBI would destroy the laptops after finishing the search.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/10/03/fbi-agreed-to-des...
 
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And so did the senate.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/sep/8/hillary-clint...

Offering immunity if often used to get people to (in effect) testify or offer up evidence without (for example) invoking the 5th

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/8/22/1233110/-DOJ-Asks-Co...

So lets stop the "but Clinton" bullshit.
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Short answer: The FBI most likely determined before the desk that any info after the date wouldn't be usefuk for their investigation. Similarly they could have made copies of any pertinent files before destroying the laptops.
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Shadrach wrote:
Short answer: The FBI most likely determined before the desk that any info after the date wouldn't be usefuk for their investigation. Similarly they could have made copies of any pertinent files before destroying the laptops.


Annnnnnnd what did the FBI get out of this?
They had classified on these computers, the FBI made a deal with them, and what did the FBI get for it?
 
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TheDashi wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
Short answer: The FBI most likely determined before the desk that any info after the date wouldn't be usefuk for their investigation. Similarly they could have made copies of any pertinent files before destroying the laptops.


Annnnnnnd what did the FBI get out of this?
They had classified on these computers, the FBI made a deal with them, and what did the FBI get for it?

You'll have to ask the FBI on that one.
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TheDashi wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
Short answer: The FBI most likely determined before the desk that any info after the date wouldn't be usefuk for their investigation. Similarly they could have made copies of any pertinent files before destroying the laptops.


Annnnnnnd what did the FBI get out of this?
They had classified on these computers, the FBI made a deal with them, and what did the FBI get for it?
Them not pleading the 5th.
 
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jmilum wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
Short answer: The FBI most likely determined before the desk that any info after the date wouldn't be usefuk for their investigation. Similarly they could have made copies of any pertinent files before destroying the laptops.


Annnnnnnd what did the FBI get out of this?
They had classified on these computers, the FBI made a deal with them, and what did the FBI get for it?

You'll have to ask the FBI on that one.


Why would they make deals and then not prosecute?
 
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TheDashi wrote:
jmilum wrote:
TheDashi wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
Short answer: The FBI most likely determined before the desk that any info after the date wouldn't be usefuk for their investigation. Similarly they could have made copies of any pertinent files before destroying the laptops.


Annnnnnnd what did the FBI get out of this?
They had classified on these computers, the FBI made a deal with them, and what did the FBI get for it?

You'll have to ask the FBI on that one.


Why would they make deals and then not prosecute?


Because the information obtained wasn't incriminating to Clinton? The 5th protects the speaker not anyone else. The speakers felt they were in jeopardy. The FBI didn't know what it was they weren't saying until after the deal.
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slatersteven wrote:
Them not pleading the 5th.


People with immunity are generally held in contempt if they plead the 5th.

Combetta pled the 5th while under immunity protection. No contempt of court was issued.

So in this case, immunity turned out to be a protection against testifying rather than an inducement to reveal facts. Combetta got to have his cake and eat it too. So did Hillary and all of the others that could be implicated by his testimony in this .

 
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jeremycobert wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Them not pleading the 5th.


People with immunity are generally held in contempt if they plead the 5th.

Combetta pled the 5th while under immunity protection. No contempt of court was issued.

Did he get blanket immunity, or was it targeted? Did he invoke the 5th on a topic he had immunity on, or a different topic?
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jeremycobert wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Them not pleading the 5th.


People with immunity are generally held in contempt if they plead the 5th.

Combetta pled the 5th while under immunity protection. No contempt of court was issued.

So in this case, immunity turned out to be a protection against testifying rather than an inducement to reveal facts. Combetta got to have his cake and eat it too. So did Hillary and all of the others that could be implicated by his testimony in this .

OK then let me put it another way.

They were granted immunity so that they would speak about what they knew (without being afraid that at some point it would be used to prosecute them) making it easier for the FBI to get the information without them having to go to courts (with insignificant evidence without this material, and having the witnesses plead the 5th anyway (thus not incriminating themselves) thus still ending up in the same place (then not being prosecuted), but without their testimony).

Does that make it easier for you?
 
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jeremycobert wrote:
slatersteven wrote:
Them not pleading the 5th.


People with immunity are generally held in contempt if they plead the 5th.

Combetta pled the 5th while under immunity protection. No contempt of court was issued.

So in this case, immunity turned out to be a protection against testifying rather than an inducement to reveal facts. Combetta got to have his cake and eat it too. So did Hillary and all of the others that could be implicated by his testimony in this .



Combetta was given immunity by the Justice Dept as re the FBI investigation. From what I see he plead the fifth in the House investigation. So your conspiracy theory falls somewhat flat.
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Oh, well maybe he could get contempt of congress. That seargant at arms guy could give him a mean talking to.
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Kumitedad wrote:
Combetta was given immunity by the Justice Dept as re the FBI investigation. From what I see he pled the fifth in the House investigation. So your conspiracy theory falls somewhat flat.
wow PLED is a 'word', while even the stupid "online dictionary" should KNOW that! BLED & FLED & SLED & etc.
 
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