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Ric Bernat
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1. What if multiple players want to spend 3 generals to have a coup -- which one of them gets to do it? And can a second player stage a second coup immediately after the first player stages one? (We had three people wanting to stage a coup at the same time.)

2. Is an enemy of the revolution allowed to be their own guillotine operator?

3. The rules say, "If a player ever loses all their Pawns that player has been killed, and the game ends immediately." So, if they are killed and they also have the most cake, they do not win, right?
 
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ricb wrote:
1. What if multiple players want to spend 3 generals to have a coup -- which one of them gets to do it? And can a second player stage a second coup immediately after the first player stages one? (We had three people wanting to stage a coup at the same time.)


Once a coup has happened, it's happened! Whoever shouted first gets it. If there's an absolute deadlock, apply the rule under 'donate to the people' and go clockwise from the committee head.

ricb wrote:
2. Is an enemy of the revolution allowed to be their own guillotine operator?


Absolutely. This happens regularly in our group.

ricb wrote:
3. The rules say, "If a player ever loses all their Pawns that player has been killed, and the game ends immediately." So, if they are killed and they also have the most cake, they do not win, right?


"The living player with the most cake wins." Cake is no good to you if you're dead.
 
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Thanks, Duncan.

Dunc wrote:
Once a coup has happened, it's happened! Whoever shouted first gets it. If there's an absolute deadlock, apply the rule under 'donate to the people' and go clockwise from the committee head.

And can you have a second coup immediately after a first coup, so that the second coup overrides the result of the first coup? (Seems reasonable thematically, fwiw.) The same could go for the "Spend 2 Generals to seize Cake" too, really: a second player could carry out this action to commandeer a second cake card before the Secretary distributes the cards.

Personally, I think it would be better to have the Head of Committee simply choose which players can carry out the coup and seize-cake military-support actions when multiple players want to do them. (And the same for choosing the order of donation in the case of ties on shouting "let them eat cake" to donate it to the people). This would provide a rich opportunity for negotiation, and would remove the reliance on seating order.

On a separate topic, one thought for a variant... Our group has the kind of players who can and will keep track of everybody's (supposed-to-be-secret) cake totals throughout the game. It would be great to find a way to make that information unknowable. Here are three ideas based on the cash-distribution mechanic in Junta:

1. The Secretary draws the to-be-distributed cards from the pantry deck face down, and only he looks at them. Then he places one in front of each player face down. Then on to election of food inspector.

2. The Secretary draws the to-be-distributed cards from the pantry deck face up (as in the current rules), so that everybody can see them. Then he takes them off the table, rearranges them, and places one in front of each player face down. This way everybody knows what cards are being distributed, but not who-got-what. Then on to election of food inspector.

3. Same as #2 above, but any Generals are distributed face up, while any cake cards are distributed face down. This way everybody knows who is slated to get a General and who is slated to get cake, so everybody has a sense of who to lobby to their side in the election of the food inspector.
 
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ricb wrote:
Dunc wrote:
Once a coup has happened, it's happened! Whoever shouted first gets it. If there's an absolute deadlock, apply the rule under 'donate to the people' and go clockwise from the committee head.

And can you have a second coup immediately after a first coup, so that the second coup overrides the result of the first coup? (Seems reasonable thematically, fwiw.)

So which way is it? Can a second coup be declared after the first one has resolved?
 
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