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Neil Lavery
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Hey,

I don't normally post that much on here, but I do find the Geek to be
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I've been extremely excited to get my hands on Conan since it was Kickstarted, and I'm impressed with most of what I have seen of the games contents. But I'm not impressed at all with its rule books, personally I think they're a mess. One thing I just can't get over is that it doesn't have a list of what each token is and does for this game. Does anyone have a list or an idea on what most of the tokens do for this game?

Thank you.
 
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Monolith is in process of re-writing the rule book to include this information and to explain the basics to the retail market. The French version will be done in a few weeks. Not sure when the English version will be ready.
 
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This really bends my straw. Re-writing the rulebook? Um, shouldn't someone have, I don't know, PROOFREAD the rulebook BEFORE release? Totally unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. I haven't even gotten my copy yet and I might just anger-sell it.
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From what I've seen, it seems to be missing details, not that the whole rulebook is completely broken. Still not a good thing, but at least it's not Myth.
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They wrote the rule book for the backers and not their bling about the retail market. Most of the backers have already watched a bunch of gameplay videos and know where most of the tokens are used. They never thought of the retail market in regards them not knowing the basics until about a week ago when a reviewer mentioned it. It's not that it needed a proofread in French. It needed one in English though..

Here is the review I am talking about.





It's not that big of a deal as all backers will get a free hard copy of the new rule book. It's totally playable with the current versio of the rules, but if you need to know what each token is you will have to wait until the updates one comes out.
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Caibre wrote:
From what I've seen, it seems to be missing details, not that the whole rulebook is completely broken. Still not a good thing, but at least it's not Myth.


Just referenced Myth in another one of these threads. Too funny. Glad I dumped that mess.
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Clanggedin wrote:
It's not that big of a deal as all backers will get a free hard copy of the new rule book. It's totally playable with the current versio of the rules, but if you need to know what each token is you will have to wait until the updates one comes out.


They didn't give a time window on us getting the correct rulebook, did they?
 
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They said ASAP. Here is the update that talks about it.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/806316071/conan/posts/1...
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I found that review to be more helpful than the rule books everywhere. Than you for the heads up. I still have lots of issues with it though
 
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Also didn't Fantasy Flight help look over these rules? If so what did they actually do?
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senorcoo wrote:
Clanggedin wrote:
It's not that big of a deal as all backers will get a free hard copy of the new rule book. It's totally playable with the current versio of the rules, but if you need to know what each token is you will have to wait until the updates one comes out.


They didn't give a time window on us getting the correct rulebook, did they?


They're already drafting the french version. I think they mostly need a new English translator.

They have promised to mail a revised hard copy of rulebook to backers, which is definitely a positive step.

I remember when the Myth guys straight up talked down at the people that criticized the rule problems.
 
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senorcoo wrote:
This really bends my straw. Re-writing the rulebook? Um, shouldn't someone have, I don't know, PROOFREAD the rulebook BEFORE release? Totally unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. I haven't even gotten my copy yet and I might just anger-sell it.

Good odds you win regardless. If you keep it, you should have a good game once the rules are fixed. If you rage-sell, then I'm sure you will find a happy buyer who will have a good game once the rules are fixed.

On the whole, though, its a shame they couldn't manage a proper rules translation the first time. How much cash did they have to work with? It was $3.3 million *before* the pledge manager and late orders... Having to re-write the rules is going to cost them more than doing it right the first time.
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senorcoo wrote:
This really bends my straw. Re-writing the rulebook? Um, shouldn't someone have, I don't know, PROOFREAD the rulebook BEFORE release? Totally unacceptable as far as I'm concerned. I haven't even gotten my copy yet and I might just anger-sell it.

I'd suggest you'll chill out until you receive your copy, read the rules, and play. Who knows, you might even enjoy it.
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Does anyone have a current reference sheet/list with what each token is and what they can be used for?
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Clanggedin wrote:
They said ASAP. Here is the update that talks about it.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/806316071/conan/posts/1...


Thank you for highlighting this, I actually forgot they did this update on KS. But that doesn't help me with my disappointment with the first edition of the rules they released for the Kickstarter copies. I really hope they can complete the revised rules asap in English. Personally I'm a little anxious about teaching this game to my group because the rules are very vague in places, and I know that this will damage the experience for some of them, and myself.

I really hope the community can get behind this game, and make as many resources and guides to help fellow players while we all wait for the correct rule book.
 
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There are also some translation issues in the English rules, where some rules aren't quite as clear as they could be, e.g. movement https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/1641049/regarding-movement-....

Plus there are some missing elements that were also lost in the translation https://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/1652548/list-scenario-t....
 
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Amen, brother. And sorry, for having raised $3.3 mil, they should have locked down a competent translator. Making it right is the LEAST they can do since they should have done it right to begin with. We shouldn't take it like they're doing us a big favor. It'd be like buying a car and they deliver you one with standard transmission and you've never driven stick before.
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It's more like you ordered the standard transmisson but the car came with steering wheel on the right side and the stick shift has funky alchemical symbols instead of numbers. And there's a button on the dash that looks important but the text underneith is a cryptex of foreign letters..
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16 Bit Warrior wrote:
I found that review to be more helpful than the rule books everywhere. Than you for the heads up. I still have lots of issues with it though


Keep in mind, that guy isn't Monolith. He made mistakes too, such as stating that you can only attack once - which isn't true.
 
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