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http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/10/racial_slurs_shouted_po...

So this happened in my backyard over the weekend.

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Slurs shouted, police called after players kneel during national anthem, Pa. coach says

A youth football coach claims racial slurs rang out from the stands during a game in this majority white Pittsburgh suburb over the weekend, after members of his mostly black team took a knee during the national anthem, sparking outrage and even a police response.

The coach, Marcus Burkley Sr., told WPXI-TV that three of his players took a knee during the anthem, just as National Football League players recently have in a controversial attempt to call attention to systemic racism in the U.S.

"Once they took a knee, you see cameras and people taking pictures. And out of nowhere you hear, 'If the little N-word(s) want to take a knee, they shouldn't be able to play," Burkley said in an interview with the TV station that aired Tuesday.

The coach went on to tell WPXI that in addition to racial slurs coming from a select few in the stands on Saturday, his 12- and 13-year-old players also heard them from opposing players on the field. He later told PennLive that referees also assessed his team more than 200 penalty yards during the game, often without an explanation or after dropping flags before contact had even been made.

And if you're curious, the comments section is filled with the peculiar and amusing defense that calling 12-year-old black boys the N-word at a high-school football game (for the serious crime of... taking a knee) is somehow perfectly justified & proper in the context of First Amendment rights:

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If you want people to accept your right to kneel during the National Anthem, don't complain when the people who are offended begin to call you names. That First Amendment right swings both ways.
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What did they expect? Cheers? The coach is a fool for letting a few turn a kid's football game into a political statement. How hard would it have been for him to say, "No, don't do that. You're just going to tick people off and set yourselves apart from the rest of the team."
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Your Team Started it Coach, deal with it!
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sounds like a reasonable fan reaction ... do they expect applause?
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Not that i am Defending the words... but they are words, isn't Speech, even Offensive Speech like Taking a Knee during the National anthem and the N word protected?
I guess speech is only free if it is trendy or approved by the left?
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The kids did what they wanted to do to show their beliefs, and the fans did theirs.
What's the difference?

"What's the difference?" indeed. shake shake shake
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Kid's protest to bring to light that racism is still a problem in this country.

Response: Racism.

Sounds like taking a knee is working as intended.
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In a Facebook message posted Sunday, Burkley called the episode a learning experience for his players, saying they had gotten "a taste of what this cold society can sometimes dish out."


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What did they expect? Cheers? The coach is a fool for letting a few turn a kid's football game into a political statement. How hard would it have been for him to say, "No, don't do that. You're just going to tick people off and set yourselves apart from the rest of the team."


Agreed.
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In a Facebook message posted Sunday, Burkley called the episode a learning experience for his players, saying they had gotten "a taste of what this cold society can sometimes dish out."


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What did they expect? Cheers? The coach is a fool for letting a few turn a kid's football game into a political statement. How hard would it have been for him to say, "No, don't do that. You're just going to tick people off and set yourselves apart from the rest of the team."


Agreed.


And he would be a puic school official (ie gov't) telling them they could not engsge in non-violentpolite free speech. That is exactly what we want in this country.
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Went backpacking this past weekend in Western PA. The number of Trump yard signs on the way was saddening.
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Shadrach wrote:
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In a Facebook message posted Sunday, Burkley called the episode a learning experience for his players, saying they had gotten "a taste of what this cold society can sometimes dish out."


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What did they expect? Cheers? The coach is a fool for letting a few turn a kid's football game into a political statement. How hard would it have been for him to say, "No, don't do that. You're just going to tick people off and set yourselves apart from the rest of the team."


Agreed.


And he would be a puic school official (ie gov't) telling them they could not engsge in non-violentpolite free speech. That is exactly what we want in this country.


Or maybe people would have been happy to simply watch kids play football.
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any video of this happening ?
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fightcitymayor wrote:
http://www.pennlive.com/news/2016/10/racial_slurs_shouted_po...

So this happened in my backyard over the weekend.

PennLive wrote:
Slurs shouted, police called after players kneel during national anthem, Pa. coach says

A youth football coach claims racial slurs rang out from the stands during a game in this majority white Pittsburgh suburb over the weekend, after members of his mostly black team took a knee during the national anthem, sparking outrage and even a police response.

The coach, Marcus Burkley Sr., told WPXI-TV that three of his players took a knee during the anthem, just as National Football League players recently have in a controversial attempt to call attention to systemic racism in the U.S.

"Once they took a knee, you see cameras and people taking pictures. And out of nowhere you hear, 'If the little N-word(s) want to take a knee, they shouldn't be able to play," Burkley said in an interview with the TV station that aired Tuesday.

The coach went on to tell WPXI that in addition to racial slurs coming from a select few in the stands on Saturday, his 12- and 13-year-old players also heard them from opposing players on the field. He later told PennLive that referees also assessed his team more than 200 penalty yards during the game, often without an explanation or after dropping flags before contact had even been made.

And if you're curious, the comments section is filled with the peculiar and amusing defense that calling 12-year-old black boys the N-word at a high-school football game (for the serious crime of... taking a knee) is somehow perfectly justified & proper in the context of First Amendment rights:

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If you want people to accept your right to kneel during the National Anthem, don't complain when the people who are offended begin to call you names. That First Amendment right swings both ways.
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What did they expect? Cheers? The coach is a fool for letting a few turn a kid's football game into a political statement. How hard would it have been for him to say, "No, don't do that. You're just going to tick people off and set yourselves apart from the rest of the team."
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Your Team Started it Coach, deal with it!
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sounds like a reasonable fan reaction ... do they expect applause?
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Not that i am Defending the words... but they are words, isn't Speech, even Offensive Speech like Taking a Knee during the National anthem and the N word protected?
I guess speech is only free if it is trendy or approved by the left?
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The kids did what they wanted to do to show their beliefs, and the fans did theirs.
What's the difference?

"What's the difference?" indeed. shake shake shake


Oh, but didn't you hear? Koldie, Jeremy, BJ, Dashi, Drewber, and the rest of the whitebred Right say there is no such thing as racism in modern America. If these voices, the smartest and the most attuned indicate it doesn't exist at a base, systemic level... well then it must not. So, this video must be an anomaly of some bad eggs.

Dog Bless H'America! And Get Your Ass To North Korea If You Don't Agree.
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any video of this happening ?


Jeremy... some of your kin in Western PA. Cracker crumbs spread afar.
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In a Facebook message posted Sunday, Burkley called the episode a learning experience for his players, saying they had gotten "a taste of what this cold society can sometimes dish out."


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What did they expect? Cheers? The coach is a fool for letting a few turn a kid's football game into a political statement. How hard would it have been for him to say, "No, don't do that. You're just going to tick people off and set yourselves apart from the rest of the team."


Agreed.


Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist. Good for this coach and the team.

H'America is filled with this demographic. Some will change. Some are set. But it is true that their story is about finished.
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red black wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
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In a Facebook message posted Sunday, Burkley called the episode a learning experience for his players, saying they had gotten "a taste of what this cold society can sometimes dish out."


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What did they expect? Cheers? The coach is a fool for letting a few turn a kid's football game into a political statement. How hard would it have been for him to say, "No, don't do that. You're just going to tick people off and set yourselves apart from the rest of the team."


Agreed.


And he would be a puic school official (ie gov't) telling them they could not engsge in non-violentpolite free speech. That is exactly what we want in this country.


Or maybe people would have been happy to simply watch kids play football.


I'm pretty sure they cpuld still play after taking a knee.
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red black wrote:
Shadrach wrote:
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In a Facebook message posted Sunday, Burkley called the episode a learning experience for his players, saying they had gotten "a taste of what this cold society can sometimes dish out."


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What did they expect? Cheers? The coach is a fool for letting a few turn a kid's football game into a political statement. How hard would it have been for him to say, "No, don't do that. You're just going to tick people off and set yourselves apart from the rest of the team."


Agreed.


And he would be a puic school official (ie gov't) telling them they could not engsge in non-violentpolite free speech. That is exactly what we want in this country.


Or maybe people would have been happy to simply watch kids play football.


Did the kid's decision affect the football game? Did the pledge of allegiance affect anything?

Sometimes a population can't continue to be silent, and sometimes those that need enlightenment will get it through words. Sometimes they get it through an action.

At the very least, this will highlight the past from the future.
 
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Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.
 
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Went backpacking this past weekend in Western PA. The number of Trump yard signs on the way was saddening.
I read a fairly in-depth report recently about voting districts in PA and how red/blue they are. I can tell you that Trump's largest base of support, by far, in the state of PA is in Southwestern PA, circa where this incident happened. Looking at the red/blue map, basically the entire Eastern half of PA (and most of the Northwest) is at least somewhat blue. But that bottom lefthand corner (where fracking is rampant & other industry has all but dried up) is blood red. And being a resident, I can confirm Trump yard-signs are indeed everywhere South of where I live.
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Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.


So the narrative, which is widely believed, that they don't exist means that one should just accept and move on?

If we followed your direction, the shitworms would just continue to flourish in their shitbed.

That my Canadian friend is exactly how this disease is allowed to incubate. The trick is to have the worms pop above shit level and then you yank them from their warm, shitbed.

They should dry out and expire after that point. Sometimes they make good bait to drive out other worms. But in the end, if its one less shitworm, then tomorrow will be a better day.

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fightcitymayor wrote:
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Went backpacking this past weekend in Western PA. The number of Trump yard signs on the way was saddening.
I read a fairly in-depth report recently about voting districts in PA and how red/blue they are. I can tell you that Trump's largest base of support, by far, in the state of PA is in Southwestern PA, circa where this incident happened. Looking at the red/blue map, basically the entire Eastern half of PA (and most of the Northwest) is at least somewhat blue. But that bottom lefthand corner (where fracking is rampant & other industry has all but dried up) is blood red. And being a resident, I can confirm Trump yard-signs are indeed everywhere South of where I live.


Being from central PA myself, I can attest to the very, very interesting dispersion of party affiliation in the state. I don't know much about the history of this alignment, but you would think that rural equals Republican, but that isn't the case for PA. That isn't to say there aren't large pockets of R, but there are a surprising number of D pockets.
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red black wrote:
darthhugo wrote:


Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.


Because pointing out a societal problem is better than ignoring it and pretending it does not exist. The first leads to questions and solution, the second leads to ignorance and hatred
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Kumitedad wrote:
red black wrote:
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Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.


Because pointing out a societal problem is better than ignoring it and pretending it does not exist. The first leads to questions and solution, the second leads to ignorance and hatred


and this is exactly how we got to where we are today following the spike in the 60s, capped with the Civil Rights legislation. Nixon and his backers did an excellent job at silencing, rounding up (drug laws), jailing, and shushing the problem into near complete silence... until the past five years.

All the while, this shit has been festering. Racism has, and still is, rampant. Our country is cursed with the disease, and we never undertook the correct regimen to cure ourselves.

This struggle is what defines our society.
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darthhugo wrote:
red black wrote:
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Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.


So the narrative, which is widely believed, that they don't exist means that one should just accept and move on?

If we followed your direction, the shitworms would just continue to flourish in their shitbed.

That my Canadian friend is exactly how this disease is allowed to incubate. The trick is to have the worms pop above shit level and then you yank them from their warm, shitbed.

They should dry out and expire after that point. Sometimes they make good bait to drive out other worms. But in the end, if its one less shitworm, then tomorrow will be a better day.



Channelling the wise Jim Lahey there, eh?

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red black wrote:
darthhugo wrote:


Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.


Because pointing out a societal problem is better than ignoring it and pretending it does not exist. The first leads to questions and solution, the second leads to ignorance and hatred


I think you're giving Kaepernick too much credit.
 
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red black wrote:
Kumitedad wrote:
red black wrote:
darthhugo wrote:


Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.


Because pointing out a societal problem is better than ignoring it and pretending it does not exist. The first leads to questions and solution, the second leads to ignorance and hatred


I think you're giving Kaepernick too much credit.


Then why is the right throwing such a collective hissy fit about it then? He started conversations, these kids are, other athletes are. Why is discussing this problem so uncomfortable to you?
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darthhugo wrote:
Kumitedad wrote:
red black wrote:
darthhugo wrote:


Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.


Because pointing out a societal problem is better than ignoring it and pretending it does not exist. The first leads to questions and solution, the second leads to ignorance and hatred


and this is exactly how we got to where we are today following the spike in the 60s, capped with the Civil Rights legislation. Nixon and his backers did an excellent job at silencing, rounding up (drug laws), jailing, and shushing the problem into near complete silence... until the past five years.

All the while, this shit has been festering. Racism has, and still is, rampant. Our country is cursed with the disease, and we never undertook the correct regimen to cure ourselves.

This struggle is what defines our society.


You constantly using racial slurs to describe whites is incredibly hypocritical. How do you intend to solve racism by being racist against whites?
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red black wrote:
Kumitedad wrote:
red black wrote:
darthhugo wrote:


Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.


Because pointing out a societal problem is better than ignoring it and pretending it does not exist. The first leads to questions and solution, the second leads to ignorance and hatred


I think you're giving Kaepernick too much credit.


Well, that's funny. His actions have led to a large amount of discussion on the matter, so if that was the goal, it had a positive effect.

This is just typical shoot the messenger tactic.

If his ideas and point were invalid, this would have ended weeks ago.

 
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darthhugo wrote:
Kumitedad wrote:
red black wrote:
darthhugo wrote:


Sometimes you have to unearth the shit worms so people believe they exist.


Of course they exist. Who needs Colin Kaepernick or some kids copying him to point that out.


Because pointing out a societal problem is better than ignoring it and pretending it does not exist. The first leads to questions and solution, the second leads to ignorance and hatred


and this is exactly how we got to where we are today following the spike in the 60s, capped with the Civil Rights legislation. Nixon and his backers did an excellent job at silencing, rounding up (drug laws), jailing, and shushing the problem into near complete silence... until the past five years.

All the while, this shit has been festering. Racism has, and still is, rampant. Our country is cursed with the disease, and we never undertook the correct regimen to cure ourselves.

This struggle is what defines our society.


You constantly using racial slurs to describe whites is incredibly hypocritical. How do you intend to solve racism by being racist against whites?


If your squirrel brain is locked to darthhugo's racism against crackers, then you are just part of the problem.

Shiny things sometime distract the dolts.

 
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Went backpacking this past weekend in Western PA. The number of Trump yard signs on the way was saddening.


Western and Central PA (other than maybe Pittsburgh) may as well be Indiana.
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